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Photo: SHPX/Hooker Tank Car 3344

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: SHPX/Hooker Tank Car 3344

Photo from the Royal BC Museum:

https://search-bcarchives.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/uploads/r/null/c/a/cacb522952694906143b3f5d6b764101d626f39e963ca4a694fdc4b627803453/i-28483_141.jpg

Title:

Tank Cars At Harmac Pulp Mill

Sister car 3342 from previous post:

https://realstmfc.groups.io/g/main/message/183874?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,SHPX,20,2,0,82358041

Appears to be same location.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Ends for Delaware & Hudson 36' foot boxcars.

Dave Parker
 

George:

Attached is the Hutchins end used on some the rebuilt D&H 36' cars.  Not at all the same as the one used on the 40 ft cars.

Hope this helps.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


new items from YMW

Pierre Oliver
 

https://elgincarshops.blogspot.com/2021/05/2-new-kits-from-yarmouth-model-works.html

--
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Re: Photo of end of D&H 36' boxcar. What kind of end is it?

George Courtney
 

Excellent observation.  Thank you.

George Courtney


Re: Photo of end of D&H 36' boxcar. What kind of end is it?

Eric Hansmann
 

I think that’s an inverse Hutchins end. It’s just difficult to see the indentations. It’s most visible at the end tack board as you can see the tack board spans a gap. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On May 28, 2021, at 5:45 PM, George Courtney via groups.io <gsc3@...> wrote:

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 This is a followup to my earlier question on this car.  I'm thinking of building it in S scale.  The end doesn't match anything I'm aware of, chiefly the riveted metal appears thinner than on other ends.
  Thanks, George Courtney
 
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Re: Ends for Delaware & Hudson 36' foot boxcars.

George Courtney
 

Thanks Scott, but this doesn't appear to be the end in the Sunshine kit I'm using as a basis for my model.  To help I put a new post with a photo of the Sunshine D&H end.

George Courtney


Photo of end of D&H 36' boxcar. What kind of end is it?

George Courtney
 


 This is a followup to my earlier question on this car.  I'm thinking of building it in S scale.  The end doesn't match anything I'm aware of, chiefly the riveted metal appears thinner than on other ends.
  Thanks, George Courtney
 


Re: Pere Marquette DD 40' steel box

Tim O'Connor
 


Nice! Is this similar to the old Yankee Clipper resin kit (or was it Funaro & Camerlengo?) for the C&O?
Also, I think Oriental imported a brass model or two for the C&O cars?

Tim O'Connor


On 5/27/2021 10:19 AM, Frank Hodina wrote:
We'll be releasing the PM 90350-91849 series cars as a one piece body resin kit later this summer. These are the Pullman built cars without end doors and a Hutchins roof. The kit will include decals for both the PM and C&O along with correct side and end ladders from Plano Model Products.

Frank
Resin Car Works

Attachments:

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--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


All SOLD: New run of HO Rio Grande Oil Company tank car decals

Andy Carlson
 


Thanks, these have all been sold.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

Hello-
Found on the cover, a photo on Ted Cullota's book "Focus on the Freight car, vol 10", of a 1935 photo of a West Coast gasoline company tank car. Cover picture was taken in Los Angeles.

I had a special run for the colorful RIO Grande tank car and I now have a few sets I am offering for sale. These are a new run. These were designed to specifically fit a Tangent Models type 17 GATC 10000 gallon tank car.

I received a list of RGOX Co numbers for GATC type 17 10K tank cars. The RGOX #234 will only do a number 234, as each decal has the black boardered red lettering specifically for one car.
I am offering the following sets:

R.G.O.X. # 201 have one
RGOX   # 210 have one
RGOX   # 215 have one
RGOX   # 216 have one
RGOX   # 226 have one
RGOX   # 240 have one

R.G.O.X. # 234 have four


Proof art for the tank car decals
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Each set has just single numbers. The cover image is of RGO #234. If you want two decals, select from the list of available sets.Inline image

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Offered for $10/set, which includes shipping to the US. I accept checks and PayPal (with a small fee).
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA




Older Iron Range freight cars

Eric Hansmann
 

Bob Hanmer has added a pair of early boxcars and ore cars to his freight car fleet. He shared photos and details in the latest DesignBuildOp blog post.



Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN


Re: File /Modeling AB Brakes on Freight Cars.pdf uploaded #file-notice

Paul R Greenwald
 

Nelson -

A very big thank you!
--
Paul R Greenwald 
PRRT&HS #1802
NMRA #129229


Re: Ends for Delaware & Hudson 36' foot boxcars.

Scott
 

George,

I realize this is a 40ft car but are these the ends you are talking about in the link to the photo below?  I believe these are inverse Hutchins ends.

D & H Box car with Hutchins ends.

Scott McDonald


Re: ISO CB&Q GM-1 & 2 Drawings

al_brown03
 

There's a photo of C&NW 72169 in Trains 3/91, pp 28-29, on the tail end of an excursion train of all things.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Technical accuracy of contemporary (for some flexible values of "contemporary) documentation (was Brake Levers/Rods Arrangement and Attachment)

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On May 27, 2021, at 05:59, lrkdbn via groups.io <lrkdbn=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

I'm sorry I'm not set up to scan stuff so I can't send you a sketch,,but i would say to look at the picture I sent of the overturned Frisco hopper. Just above the truck you can see the horizontal lever and its hangers.There would be a similar lever at the other end with a fulcrum bracket. I have never worried about the exact configuration of this because, located between the wheels as it is, unless your'e modeling finescale you can only model the center part of the levers and the connecting rod on account of wheel clearance.It occurs to me another source of actual brake arrangement drawings is Bob Webber at the Illinois Railway Museum.His email is <cz17@comcast.net>
This thread has got me to thinking about my hardcopy archives of Model Railroader, missing no more than two dozen issues between January 1948(via either countertop at the local pusher's or via subscription since October 1956 and then via back-issue purchases to about Volume 1 issue 5)) and the present, and especially the Bluebook series' drawings. My understanding of those equipment drawings in particular is that they were reproductions of official documents from either railroad or government sources, but I doubt myself now. I also wonder a bit about some of the documents available for download from giggle books in this regard, many of which are from authors who had professed to be mechanical or electrical or civil engineers.

Larry King
[the famous one?]
--
Artie the Hinged Jaw
Retired AFU Game Warden


Re: Photo: Gondola & Flat Car (Circa 1940s)

Jeffrey Gray <bigsix@...>
 

Mike, thank for this good tip. We could have entire thread just on Shapeway stuff!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike Aufderheide
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 11:57 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Gondola & Flat Car (Circa 1940s)

 

Jeffrey,

These spiral ends are available on Shapeways, see:

Monon Spiral Gondola End-HO Scale (VFHH88RYT) by MononInMonon (shapeways.com)

Regards,

Mike Aufderheide

 


Re: Ends for Delaware & Hudson 36' foot boxcars.

Don Burn
 

They also had Hutchins ends.   This is all covered in the November 1987 RMC article that had plans for the cars.  

 

Don Burn

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of George Courtney via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 3:54 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Ends for Delaware & Hudson 36' foot boxcars.

 

I thinking of building one of these in S scale.  I have a photo from Sunshine kit   In the Sunshine photo Car #23202 appears to have an end that is just riveted steel plate.  Can anyone comment on this car?  I know D&H also had wood ends and Indestructible ends but that's not what it looks like in the Sunshine Photo.

Thanks,
George Courtney


Ends for Delaware & Hudson 36' foot boxcars.

George Courtney
 

I thinking of building one of these in S scale.  I have a photo from Sunshine kit   In the Sunshine photo Car #23202 appears to have an end that is just riveted steel plate.  Can anyone comment on this car?  I know D&H also had wood ends and Indestructible ends but that's not what it looks like in the Sunshine Photo.

Thanks,
George Courtney


Re: ISO CB&Q GM-1 & 2 Drawings

Charlie Vlk
 

Nelson-

Even though their were 1500 composite GMs built they were largely gone by our lifetime. A few survived in MOW service.

The first batch was built by Western Steel Car & Foundry in 1925 as GM-1 and had 5’-6” wb #50 trucks and the second GM-2 by Galesburg in 1925 and were equipped with 5’4”wb #31-B trucks.  Otherwise, the two classes appear to be identical.

Charlie Vlk

 

PS-  Micro-Trains makes a credible N Scale model of the CB&Q car that has a brake wheel instead of the lever type.

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nelson Moyer
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 1:19 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ISO CB&Q GM-1 & 2 Drawings

 

Yes, I missed that distinction. I wonder why the GM1/2 series weren’t covered in the data sheet, since they were composite gondolas, and the title implies that the data sheet covers ‘Burlington’s Composite Gondola Fleet’. It covers GAs, GBs, GSs, and GTs, but no GMs.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 12:35 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ISO CB&Q GM-1 & 2 Drawings

 

Nelson-

Topic is GM 1 & 2, not GS….different cars.
Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nelson Moyer
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 11:43 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ISO CB&Q GM-1 & 2 Drawings

 

Check the BRHS data sheet titled, Burlington’s Composite Gondola Fleet. Page 8 and page 10 contain information on modifications to GS-1/2 gondolas. Some had the sides cut down like the GA-15 USRA gondolas, and others had the wood sheathing replaced with cut boxcar end panels. According to this reference, 150 GS-1 and GS-2 cars got metal sides and ends in 1944. Plus four additional drop doors. This group was numbered in the 72000-72149 series. There’s a diagram of the before and after drop door arrangements.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Frank Hodina
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 9:06 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ISO CB&Q GM-1 & 2 Drawings

 

This is timely as I've been looking for another composite gon to do a kit of. One is the CB&Q GM-1/2 while the other is a CNW 48'-6" car. Have drawings for the CNW gon, but can't find any in service photos. For the GM-1/2 there's no information on the underframe to do a pattern. Jerry Hamsmith put together this short history on the GM-1/2's.

Frank
Resin Car Works


Re: ISO CB&Q GM-1 & 2 Drawings

Nelson Moyer
 

Yes, I missed that distinction. I wonder why the GM1/2 series weren’t covered in the data sheet, since they were composite gondolas, and the title implies that the data sheet covers ‘Burlington’s Composite Gondola Fleet’. It covers GAs, GBs, GSs, and GTs, but no GMs.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 12:35 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ISO CB&Q GM-1 & 2 Drawings

 

Nelson-

Topic is GM 1 & 2, not GS….different cars.
Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nelson Moyer
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 11:43 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ISO CB&Q GM-1 & 2 Drawings

 

Check the BRHS data sheet titled, Burlington’s Composite Gondola Fleet. Page 8 and page 10 contain information on modifications to GS-1/2 gondolas. Some had the sides cut down like the GA-15 USRA gondolas, and others had the wood sheathing replaced with cut boxcar end panels. According to this reference, 150 GS-1 and GS-2 cars got metal sides and ends in 1944. Plus four additional drop doors. This group was numbered in the 72000-72149 series. There’s a diagram of the before and after drop door arrangements.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Frank Hodina
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 9:06 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ISO CB&Q GM-1 & 2 Drawings

 

This is timely as I've been looking for another composite gon to do a kit of. One is the CB&Q GM-1/2 while the other is a CNW 48'-6" car. Have drawings for the CNW gon, but can't find any in service photos. For the GM-1/2 there's no information on the underframe to do a pattern. Jerry Hamsmith put together this short history on the GM-1/2's.

Frank
Resin Car Works


Re: ISO CB&Q GM-1 & 2 Drawings

Charlie Vlk
 

Nelson-

Topic is GM 1 & 2, not GS….different cars.
Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nelson Moyer
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 11:43 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ISO CB&Q GM-1 & 2 Drawings

 

Check the BRHS data sheet titled, Burlington’s Composite Gondola Fleet. Page 8 and page 10 contain information on modifications to GS-1/2 gondolas. Some had the sides cut down like the GA-15 USRA gondolas, and others had the wood sheathing replaced with cut boxcar end panels. According to this reference, 150 GS-1 and GS-2 cars got metal sides and ends in 1944. Plus four additional drop doors. This group was numbered in the 72000-72149 series. There’s a diagram of the before and after drop door arrangements.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Frank Hodina
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 9:06 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ISO CB&Q GM-1 & 2 Drawings

 

This is timely as I've been looking for another composite gon to do a kit of. One is the CB&Q GM-1/2 while the other is a CNW 48'-6" car. Have drawings for the CNW gon, but can't find any in service photos. For the GM-1/2 there's no information on the underframe to do a pattern. Jerry Hamsmith put together this short history on the GM-1/2's.

Frank
Resin Car Works

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