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Re: Sunshine Kit for sale

Rick Naylor
 

Is the kit still available?


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Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 2:15 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Sunshine Kit for sale
 
I have one Sunshine kit 29.6 Western Railway of Alabama War Emergency boxcar.  Kit was opened to measure and scale.  65.00/flat rate shipping

Thanks
Kevin









Re: ACR Side Construction

Dennis Storzek
 

On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 08:01 AM, Randy Hammill wrote:
Was it an industry term or something coined by modelers/historians?
Has to be a modeler's term. On the prototype they'd be concerned with the structural member, not the attachment rivets.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Rubberized Livestock Car Slats (1956)

Dennis Storzek
 

On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 06:36 AM, Jim Betz wrote:
Cattle will eat/chew on anything in their reach.  Were these cars successful or
were they later reworked to remove the 'rubberized' coating?
I doubt they had to remove it; the cattle would take care of that :-)

The short text included with the image is interesting, in that it mentions hides "sticking" to the slats. I suspect the UP initially wanted to use steel slats to cut down on maintenance, and ran into the old tongue stuck to the flagpole problem during the winter; in extremely cold weather the sweaty flanks of the animals would freeze to the steel... inhumane and leaving the load damaged. So, the bed-liner was the solution. Likely enough survived the chewing to still be effective to keep the animals from "sticking."

Dennis Storzek


UP Livestock Car 47630D (Class Not Visible)

Bob Chaparro
 

UP Livestock Car 47630D (Class Not Visible)

Photo from Don Strack’s UtahRails Website:

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Union-Pacific/UP-Freight-Cars/i-VCQBnhr/A

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Built 8-1950. Stencil notes “This Car Equipped With Roller Bearings”.

Journal lids appear to be painted silver, an indicator of roller bearings refitted to trucks that originally had solid bearings.

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railway Bull Shippers Group

https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup


Photo: Bamberger Railroad Boxcar 800

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Bamberger Railroad Boxcar 800

A Wil Whittaker photo from Don Strack’s UtahRails website:

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Miscellaneous/i-zSwfB5J/A

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: ACR Side Construction

Tim O'Connor
 

Randy

ACR was a solution that arose when railroads chose to use thinner copper bearing steel side
sheets (Cor-Ten steel) that were not as rigid as the thicker conventional side sheets. The UP
obviously felt the weight savings was worth the extra cost, while some like the SP only used it
for some cars and then dropped it. (The Cor-Ten side sheets required an extra vertical stiffener.)

As for the terminology, I don't know who coined it. :-)

Tim O'Connor


On 6/5/2021 11:01 AM, Randy Hammill wrote:
I don’t know the answer to that, but a I do wonder where the term ACR came from. Was it an industry term or something coined by modelers/historians?

I suppose I should go digging through CBCs when I get home.

Randy

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: ACR Side Construction

Randy Hammill
 

I don’t know the answer to that, but a I do wonder where the term ACR came from. Was it an industry term or something coined by modelers/historians?

I suppose I should go digging through CBCs when I get home.

Randy
--

Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
http://prototypejunction.com

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com


Re: Rubberized Livestock Car Slats (1956)

Jim Betz
 

Bob/anyone,
  Cattle will eat/chew on anything in their reach.  Were these cars successful or
were they later reworked to remove the 'rubberized' coating?
                                                                                                     - Jim


Re: New eBay listing

Jim Betz
 

Clark,
  What is the white square, oriented as a "diamond", on the door of this BAR car?
                                                       - Jim


Re: ACR Side Construction

Ken Adams
 

Very interesting photo. The photo doesn't give a location. But I would guess it is not Omaha in the winter.

I like the long shop truck in the foreground and the stacked air brake reservoirs and other parts.  Under the shop track there appear what may be wood kegs of rivets? 

If you go to the previous photo it looks like they are lowering the frame onto the trucks. is that a drawbar casting in the lower right?  The following photo is also an interesting view of a GS type flat car under construction. 
--
Ken Adams
Still in splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io


Re: ACR Side Construction

Schuyler Larrabee
 

OK, I see that an ACR side has a secondary smaller mid-panel  rib, secured with rivets spaced at double the spacing for the main ribs/panel joints.

 

So once again, what is the term for the rivet pattern that reveals the use of a hat channel at the panel joints, where there also is a principal line of closely spaced rivets along with a secondary line which is double spaced?

 

BTW, in this second instance, the double-spaced line is sometimes in the same grid as the closely spaced line, and is sometimes offset by a half step, so to speak.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2021 5:48 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ACR Side Construction

 

 

 

A very good look at the inside of an ACR boxcar side and how it's constructed.

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Union-Pacific/UP-Freight-Cars/i-bgD2NbD/A

 

Note that it’s an ACR side, with the light angles between the main posts. The assembled car at left is too.

 

Tony Thompson

 

 


Re: ACR Side Construction

Tony Thompson
 



A very good look at the inside of an ACR boxcar side and how it's constructed.

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Union-Pacific/UP-Freight-Cars/i-bgD2NbD/A

Note that it’s an ACR side, with the light angles between the main posts. The assembled car at left is too.

Tony Thompson



Re: ACR Side Construction

Ed Hawkins
 

STMFC,
My apologies for replying to the STMFC instead of forwarding the message to my friend Bill, who I know has been working on a model of this general type. 
Regards,
Ed Hawkins

On Jun 4, 2021, at 4:20 PM, Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> wrote:


On Jun 4, 2021, at 2:23 PM, Dan Smith <espeefan@...> wrote:

Group,

A very good look at the inside of an ACR boxcar side and how it's constructed.

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Union-Pacific/UP-Freight-Cars/i-bgD2NbD/A

Dan Smith

Bill,
Dan Smith says to follow this!!! 
Ed


Re: ACR Side Construction

Ed Hawkins
 



On Jun 4, 2021, at 2:23 PM, Dan Smith <espeefan@...> wrote:

Group,

A very good look at the inside of an ACR boxcar side and how it's constructed.

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Union-Pacific/UP-Freight-Cars/i-bgD2NbD/A

Dan Smith

Bill,
Dan Smith says to follow this!!! 
Ed


ACR Side Construction

 

Group,

A very good look at the inside of an ACR boxcar side and how it's constructed.

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Union-Pacific/UP-Freight-Cars/i-bgD2NbD/A

Dan Smith


Rubberized Livestock Car Slats (1956)

Bob Chaparro
 

Rubberized Livestock Car Slats (1956)

Article with photos from Don Strack’s UtahRails Website:

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Union-Pacific/UP-Freight-Cars/i-RjP4tmh/A

From Railway Age, May 19, 1956.

Better photo of UP 42000:

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Union-Pacific/UP-Freight-Cars/i-53cqxbT/A

Class S-40-15, built 1-1956 in the Omaha Shops.

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railway Bull Shippers Group

https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup


New eBay listing

Clark Propst
 


Re: Cambria and Indiana RR ORER Help

Ed Hawkins
 



On Jun 3, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Brian Carlson via groups.io <prrk41361@...> wrote:

Can anyone provide scans or images of the C&I ORER pages for 1955 and 1956. Don't need ever issue just one per year. Thanks 

Brian,

Attached is C&I for Jan. 1956. The left edge is tight in the gutter & difficult to push down flat. 

Ed Hawkins





Cambria and Indiana RR ORER Help

Brian Carlson
 

Can anyone provide scans or images of the C&I ORER pages for 1955 and 1956. Don't need ever issue just one per year. Thanks 
Brian Carlson 
Cheektowaga NY


Re: Photo: Pacific Great Eastern Reefer 819 (Circa 1950s)

ROGER HINMAN
 

The other possibility is it was used as a parts bucket to support the other cars


Roger Hinman

On Jun 3, 2021, at 12:59 AM, greg kennelly <greg_kennelly@...> wrote:

Many thanks, Roger.  That 21st car makes me wonder if PGE number 807 was to have been used for that car but, for some reason, they never showed it in the “Equipment Record” book.  At some point, I will have to get over to Victoria and see what else I can dig up in the old PGE Accounts.

Based on photographs I have, PGE 812 and 822 both show the deeper centre sill.  As 812 is the only post-1952 photograph I have that shows a car with the deeper centre sill, it appears that the other eight cars in Lot 1 were all among those written off in 1951 or 1952.

Regards,
Greg Kennelly

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