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Rolling The Freight (1947)

Bob Chaparro
 

Rolling The Freight (1947)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sstFcKqjF2s&t=1180s

A promotional film produced by the Chicago & North Western Railroad depicting the movement of freight trains. The film covers different types of freight trains as well as the various yards, warehouses and other infrastructure required for "Rolling the Freight" via the Chicago & North Western System.

There are many freight car run-bys early in the film.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I’d like to save this for future reference, but all I can save (so far) is the image of the cover.  Anybody know how to save it all?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 12:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

An article by James Kindraka from the January-February issue of the Dispatch, a publication of the National Association of S Gaugers:

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/54078959/the-story-of-milk-transportation-by-rail-river-raisin-models

There are photos, data and operational information in this article.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

Bob Chaparro
 

Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

An article by James Kindraka from the January-February issue of the Dispatch, a publication of the National Association of S Gaugers:

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/54078959/the-story-of-milk-transportation-by-rail-river-raisin-models

There are photos, data and operational information in this article.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

 

I would like to find one of the following cars in order to recreate the attached photo.

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/ho/html/45808.htm

 

Owatonna Tool Company was owned by my mother’s side of the family.

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <PlasticFreightCarBuiilders@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io> on behalf of "Clark Propst via groups.io" <cepropst@...>
Reply-To: <PlasticFreightCarBuiilders@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io>, <cepropst@q.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 11:17 AM
To: <main@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io>, <PlasticFreightCarBuiilders@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io>
Subject: [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

 

I just finished a kitbash of an Intermountain AAR 1937 modified box car with their PS1 ends and roof to make a riveted PS1. I thought I’d use Kadee ladders to get the straight stile style used on the ends of the 48 blt cars. They turned out to be a pain. I didn’t drill holes for their pegs, just cut them off and acced them to the sides/ends. I noticed one had skewed again from handling. If I attempt to use them again I’ll drill a few holes. I had no issues with their bracket  grabs. Again I snipped off two of the mounting pegs and glued them into the holes already in the car sides. Another battle I fought was with the hand brake/retainer valve combo. Took me awhile to realize the part was for the AAR car and therefore the pegs wouldn’t fit in the predrilled holes in the PS1 ends...In hindsight I wish I’d used the Kadee parts...I did add a bit of styrene for the trust plate on the upper left of the sides and use a Kadee running board. I had to make the end bracket grab, I used one end of a bracket grab on the right and a piece of wire bent in an L attached to it and into a hole on the left. Painted with Tamiya Gray primer and Tru-color CNW freight car color, Speedwitch decals. I do have a complaint about that set. There’s no PS builders stencil, or new bearing pack info, both show on builders photos from RPCyc 1. Had to scrounge them for saved scraps. Lastly I airbrushed on Dullcote and went over the roof with a Dullcote brown tint mix. Modeling 48 – 50 makes the car new or nearly new.

Painting these CNW PS1 is one where guys go with their gut. It appeared to me that ‘maybe’ all the other series had black car cement ends and roofs. I do have a color photo of this series all bcr, a repaint? I’ve actually climbed up and looks at the roofs on these cars. It’s possible they were not painted, just the seam caps and rivet lines around the  perimeter were tarred and painted color color?

Clark Propst

Mason City Iowa


Re: Photo-etch benders - hinged vs "Razer blade" types?

 

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 07:01 PM, Denis Kahl wrote:
Mission Models are now out of business.
I believe they are still in business but mostly paints and a few accessories now https://www.missionmodelsus.com/ (unless this is a different company than the one you mentioned.) Here's a review of that bender, indicating the issues you mentioned. Good to know!
 
--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD


Re: Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Randy Hammill
 

I did a quick post covering prototype roster info c1950 for the cars:

https://blog.newbritainstation.com/2021/06/usra-single-sheathed-box-cars.html?m=1

I’ve ordered mine!

Randy
--

Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
http://prototypejunction.com

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com


I have no more GN stock cars left.

Andy Carlson
 

I have sold all of these resin cars.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

Hello everyone-
I recently restored some patterns I made for the Great Northern's rebuilt-from-boxcars 40' stock cars. The 55200-55450 series, totaling 250 cars, were rebuilt from 31000 series of single sheathed box cars in 1958. Not a significant rebuild in that almost all of the 1925 built car's parts were retained. The wood siding was replaced with wooden slats and the steel 5/4/5 pre-war Youngstown steel doors were modified into top hung with 12 oval slots cut into the door.

Photos in color are found in Scott Thompson's GN box car and stock car 4-ways west book.
.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

Inline image


Movie: Fruit Express (1940s)

Bob Chaparro
 

Movie: Fruit Express (1940s)

https://archive.org/details/84574TheNewsMagazineFruitExpressVwr

Only fair quality.

The railroad action stops at about 4:40, however there are some scenes of tank cars with DDT being unloading at 4:48.

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railroad Citrus Industry Modeling Group

https://groups.io/g/RailroadCitrusIndustryModelingGroup


Pratt Truss design.

Scott
 

Does anybody have any dimensioned drawings of a Pratt Truss used on many singled sheathed cars?

Thank you,
Scott McDonald


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Andy Miller
 

Eldon,

I probably should have emailed Rapido a long time ago rather than just laugh at their booboo on this list. But it still appears on their website :
https://rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/freight-cars/ho-scale-gla-hopper under the list of features.

Regards,

Andy Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 10:52 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Andy;

There are always a lot of typos in these early phases.

I don't know that we are at the point we can verify for sure, but it looks like a 2D-F8, 50-ton version, at this point. The team is still digging.

Elden Gatwood


-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy Miller
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 10:38 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Speaking of typos, has anyone ever seem a photo of the "12DF8" truck advertised as being under the Rapido GLa? 😉 It could carry one hellava load but probably had problems on curves.

Andy Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralph W. Brown
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 12:28 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Yes, a typo. Ugh.

Thanks for the clarification.


Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Hansmann
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 12:23 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

I think Ralph had a typo in the Pennsy car class. The USRA single-sheathed boxcars were the X26 class on the PRR.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralph W. Brown
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 11:14 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Hi Gerald, et al.,

Rapido is offering the PRR X36, aka USRA single sheathed boxcar, with both Youngstown and Creco doors. The website, however, shows the six car sets of both versions will have the same six car numbers. I hoping that changes.

Pax,


Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Henriksen
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 11:32 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 19:43:41 -0400, you wrote:

Just announced on a Facebook Live, newsletter and website will show it
sometime tomorrow.

- 3 different doors
- Ann Arbor, B&O, C&O, CNJ, C&NW, D&H, MEC, MILW, N&W, NYC, Pennsy,
Reading, SP, + 1 more couldn't see (I think I got the list correct from
the image they showed on the livestream).
Website now live:
Blockedhttps://rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/freight-cars/ho-scale-usra-single
-sheathed-wood-boxcar

Or the PDF brochure:
Blockedhttps://files.constantcontact.com/b02e8bb6001/276e9961-da24-414c-abcb-7f7b57
a59af7.pdf


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Andy;

There are always a lot of typos in these early phases.

I don't know that we are at the point we can verify for sure, but it looks like a 2D-F8, 50-ton version, at this point. The team is still digging.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy Miller
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 10:38 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Speaking of typos, has anyone ever seem a photo of the "12DF8" truck advertised as being under the Rapido GLa? 😉 It could carry one hellava load but probably had problems on curves.

Andy Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralph W. Brown
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 12:28 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Yes, a typo. Ugh.

Thanks for the clarification.


Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Hansmann
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 12:23 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

I think Ralph had a typo in the Pennsy car class. The USRA single-sheathed boxcars were the X26 class on the PRR.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralph W. Brown
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 11:14 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Hi Gerald, et al.,

Rapido is offering the PRR X36, aka USRA single sheathed boxcar, with both Youngstown and Creco doors. The website, however, shows the six car sets of both versions will have the same six car numbers. I hoping that changes.

Pax,


Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Henriksen
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 11:32 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 19:43:41 -0400, you wrote:

Just announced on a Facebook Live, newsletter and website will show it
sometime tomorrow.

- 3 different doors
- Ann Arbor, B&O, C&O, CNJ, C&NW, D&H, MEC, MILW, N&W, NYC, Pennsy,
Reading, SP, + 1 more couldn't see (I think I got the list correct from
the image they showed on the livestream).
Website now live:
Blockedhttps://rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/freight-cars/ho-scale-usra-single
-sheathed-wood-boxcar

Or the PDF brochure:
Blockedhttps://files.constantcontact.com/b02e8bb6001/276e9961-da24-414c-abcb-7f7b57
a59af7.pdf


Re: Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Andy Miller
 

Speaking of typos, has anyone ever seem a photo of the "12DF8" truck advertised as being under the Rapido GLa? 😉 It could carry one hellava load but probably had problems on curves.

Andy Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralph W. Brown
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 12:28 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Yes, a typo. Ugh.

Thanks for the clarification.


Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Hansmann
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 12:23 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

I think Ralph had a typo in the Pennsy car class. The USRA single-sheathed boxcars were the X26 class on the PRR.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralph W. Brown
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 11:14 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Hi Gerald, et al.,

Rapido is offering the PRR X36, aka USRA single sheathed boxcar, with both Youngstown and Creco doors. The website, however, shows the six car sets of both versions will have the same six car numbers. I hoping that changes.

Pax,


Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Henriksen
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 11:32 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 19:43:41 -0400, you wrote:

Just announced on a Facebook Live, newsletter and website will show it
sometime tomorrow.

- 3 different doors
- Ann Arbor, B&O, C&O, CNJ, C&NW, D&H, MEC, MILW, N&W, NYC, Pennsy,
Reading, SP, + 1 more couldn't see (I think I got the list correct from
the image they showed on the livestream).
Website now live:
https://rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/freight-cars/ho-scale-usra-single
-sheathed-wood-boxcar

Or the PDF brochure:
https://files.constantcontact.com/b02e8bb6001/276e9961-da24-414c-abcb-7f7b57
a59af7.pdf


Re: N&W Paint Question

Nelson Moyer
 

For clarification, I confused the CGW mini-kit build with the YMW B-5 build, both of which are on the workbench. Ed Hawkins answered both questions off line, indirectly through George Toman’s CGW clinic presentation and directly for the N&W B-5. For the CGW, freight car red sides and ends with black roof, underbody and trucks. For the B-5, it depends upon paint date. Original paint was freight car red on all surfaces with black trucks, 1951-52 repaints could be freight car red sides and ends, black roof, underbody, and trucks, and 1953-54 could be freight car red sides with black ends, roof, underbody, and trucks. Ed Hawkins provided this information based upon his research at IRM Pullman Library archives.

 

Nelson Moyer

 


Re: Photo-etch benders - hinged vs "Razer blade" types?

A&Y Dave in MD
 

Consider these:

https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/tools/bending-pliers/

--
____________________________
David Bott, modeling the A&Y in '34


Re: Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Michael Gross
 

Rapido is aware of the incorrect upper door guide length and the missing upper door stop as well.  They are on it!
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: N&W Paint Question

Nelson Moyer
 

Thanks, Jim. I found George Tomans Chicagoland presentation, and according to Ed Hawkins, the roof also go car cement, so I’ll paint it black along with the underframe and trucks. Since the color photo I have shows some red on the trucks and brake gear from overspray, I won’t worry if I get some overspray when I paint the sides and ends.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Brewer
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 4:04 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] N&W Paint Question

 

Nelson,

Trucks and underframe (car cement) were black.

Jim Brewer


Photo of prototype GN 40' stock car series 55318

Andy Carlson
 


Inline image


Hello everyone-
I recently restored some patterns I made for the Great Northern's rebuilt-from-boxcars 40' stock cars. The 55200-55450 series, totaling 250 cars, were rebuilt from 31000 series of single sheathed box cars in 1958. Not a significant rebuild in that almost all of the 1925 built car's parts were retained. The wood siding was replaced with wooden slats and the steel 5/4/5 pre-war Youngstown steel doors were modified into top hung with 12 oval slots cut into the door.

Photos in color are found in Scott Thompson's GN box car and stock car 4-ways west book.

I have two of these resin casting sets and are ready for shipping now. Each contains the following:

1) Pair of stock car sides
2) pair of slotted steel doors
3) One 3/5 early Dreadnaught 'A' end with lumber door
4) One 3/5 early Dreadnaught 'B' end
5) One underframe with floor boards and stringers and bolsters
6) 2 slight fish belly center sills
7) 2 Pivoted Murphy flat roof halves with running board brackets
8) 5 roof support cross-ties
9) 1 set of CDS Vermillion Red Slant Serif lettering dry transfer

Not included are components the builder will need to supply. No couplers, wood running boards AB brake gear, Universal Hand Brake are also not included. Recommended trucks are Tahoe Model Works Dalman 2-level. Adding the bottom bars from the bottom of the journal boxes to the side frames will mimic an Andrews Dalman 2-level. Some of these cars had replacement self-aligning spring plankless double truss trucks also offered by Tahoe.

I will include one Red Caboose X29 wood running board. The builder will need to sand the screws and re emboss new screw dimples.

I am offering this pair of Great Northern stock cars for $59 each car, which includes shipping to within the US. I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee PayPal is welcomed.

The photo is of a recent in-progress assembly using these parts.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

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Offered: (two only) resin HO GN 40' stock car series 55200-55450

Andy Carlson
 


Hello everyone-
I recently restored some patterns I made for the Great Northern's rebuilt-from-boxcars 40' stock cars. The 55200-55450 series, totaling 250 cars, were rebuilt from 31000 series of single sheathed box cars in 1958. Not a significant rebuild in that almost all of the 1925 built car's parts were retained. The wood siding was replaced with wooden slats and the steel 5/4/5 pre-war Youngstown steel doors were modified into top hung with 12 oval slots cut into the door.

Photos in color are found in Scott Thompson's GN box car and stock car 4-ways west book.

I have two of these resin casting sets and are ready for shipping now. Each contains the following:

1) Pair of stock car sides
2) pair of slotted steel doors
3) One 3/5 early Dreadnaught 'A' end with lumber door
4) One 3/5 early Dreadnaught 'B' end
5) One underframe with floor boards and stringers and bolsters
6) 2 slight fish belly center sills
7) 2 Pivoted Murphy flat roof halves with running board brackets
8) 5 roof support cross-ties
9) 1 set of CDS Vermillion Red Slant Serif lettering dry transfer

Not included are components the builder will need to supply. No couplers, wood running boards AB brake gear, Universal Hand Brake are also not included. Recommended trucks are Tahoe Model Works Dalman 2-level. Adding the bottom bars from the bottom of the journal boxes to the side frames will mimic an Andrews Dalman 2-level. Some of these cars had replacement self-aligning spring plankless double truss trucks also offered by Tahoe.

I will include one Red Caboose X29 wood running board. The builder will need to sand the screws and re emboss new screw dimples.

I am offering this pair of Great Northern stock cars for $59 each car, which includes shipping to within the US. I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee PayPal is welcomed.

The photo is of a recent in-progress assembly using these parts.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

Inline image


Re: Photo-etch benders - hinged vs "Razer blade" types?

Denis Kahl
 

Hi,

I use the "razor blade" etch bender ie one with the fingers. The one I have purchased comes from England and is made by Avonside Works. It comes with a single edged razor blade as well as longer metal blades so that longer items can be folded. I previously owned a Mission Models (USA) finger type which also came with multiple length blades but were made of plastic which degraded badly. Mission Models are now out of business.

Some of the etches that I bend require multiple folds for which the multiple sized fingers are ideal. I would think that the hinged type would not allow you to do multiple folds on an etch.

I have seen and held a hinged type but I shied away from it because you can't see what is happening until you open it up again for a pleasant or maybe an unpleasant surprise.

Denis Kahl
Melbourne
Australia


Re: Blacksmith Car

Gavin
 

I'll have to dig, but I know PGE had an offical foundry/blacksmith car post WW2.


On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 2:17 PM Scott H. Haycock <shhaycock@...> wrote:
The use of "blacksmith car" is my own. I don't remember where I heard the term, but it seemed descriptive- my apologies for the confusion.
 
Here's the story. I'm thinking about modeling this, but I need a better understanding of the type of MOW cars that might be used:
 
Cal Sexsmith wrote-
 The father of a friend of mine was a road repair foreman in the 1950s. He was assigned a road repair car which was an old boxcar with a bunkhouse/kitchen at one end and tools and parts at the other. The car, along with the road repair crew, would be moved from town to town by way freights so that they could repair cars where they sat. This might also be an interesting variation to add.
 
Scott Haycock

Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantment

On 06/13/2021 2:39 PM Dennis Storzek wrote:
 
 
Scott,
Where is this reference to a "blacksmith car" coming from?

Dennis Storzek

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