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Re: Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

Dave Parker
 

Can't remember if I created this PDF version, or somebody else did, but here it is.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

Tim O'Connor
 


CNW 71838 is from series 71000-71998 built 1941 GATC (VIKING Roof)


On 6/15/2021 4:35 PM, Charlie Vlk wrote:

Brian-


It appears you need to look for a 10’-6” IH AAR box car with a Youngstown door.   Need to check if the roof is a Viking or some other type.

You might get lucky and find a C&NW that only needs to have the number changed.

Here is a pdf of the banner.   Since it is on a white background I would size the boxcar on my drawing to HO and print out the banner as a separate image on white decal stock.  The banner not on the car has a slight black border to use as a guide to cut the banner to size.

It should just fit between the door and the ladder.

 

Have Fun!!

Charlie Vlk

 

Attachments:

_._,_._,_


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

Charlie Vlk
 

All-

I could not tell from the photo if the car had riveted sides.  I sent out the reply before looking at Clark’s post.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of BRIAN PAUL EHNI
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 11:41 AM
To: PlasticFreightCarBuiilders@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io; cepropst@q.com
Cc: realSTMFC <realSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

 

I would like to find one of the following cars in order to recreate the attached photo.

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/ho/html/45808.htm

 

Owatonna Tool Company was owned by my mother’s side of the family.

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

 

I just finished a kitbash of an Intermountain AAR 1937 modified box car with their PS1 ends and roof to make a riveted PS1. I thought I’d use Kadee ladders to get the straight stile style used on the ends of the 48 blt cars. They turned out to be a pain. I didn’t drill holes for their pegs, just cut them off and acced them to the sides/ends. I noticed one had skewed again from handling. If I attempt to use them again I’ll drill a few holes. I had no issues with their bracket  grabs. Again I snipped off two of the mounting pegs and glued them into the holes already in the car sides. Another battle I fought was with the hand brake/retainer valve combo. Took me awhile to realize the part was for the AAR car and therefore the pegs wouldn’t fit in the predrilled holes in the PS1 ends...In hindsight I wish I’d used the Kadee parts...I did add a bit of styrene for the trust plate on the upper left of the sides and use a Kadee running board. I had to make the end bracket grab, I used one end of a bracket grab on the right and a piece of wire bent in an L attached to it and into a hole on the left. Painted with Tamiya Gray primer and Tru-color CNW freight car color, Speedwitch decals. I do have a complaint about that set. There’s no PS builders stencil, or new bearing pack info, both show on builders photos from RPCyc 1. Had to scrounge them for saved scraps. Lastly I airbrushed on Dullcote and went over the roof with a Dullcote brown tint mix. Modeling 48 – 50 makes the car new or nearly new.

Painting these CNW PS1 is one where guys go with their gut. It appeared to me that ‘maybe’ all the other series had black car cement ends and roofs. I do have a color photo of this series all bcr, a repaint? I’ve actually climbed up and looks at the roofs on these cars. It’s possible they were not painted, just the seam caps and rivet lines around the  perimeter were tarred and painted color color?

Clark Propst

Mason City Iowa


Re: Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

Charlie Vlk
 

Schuyler-

It doesn’t appear that the entire issue was copied, just the pages relevant to the Milk Run article.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 12:22 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

Yeah that works but (maybe obviously) I was looking to save the booklet . . .

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 1:17 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

Flip/open each page and do a screen save of each page.

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 11:58 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

I’d like to save this for future reference, but all I can save (so far) is the image of the cover.  Anybody know how to save it all?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 12:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

An article by James Kindraka from the January-February issue of the Dispatch, a publication of the National Association of S Gaugers:

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/54078959/the-story-of-milk-transportation-by-rail-river-raisin-models

There are photos, data and operational information in this article.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

Charlie Vlk
 

Brian-


It appears you need to look for a 10’-6” IH AAR box car with a Youngstown door.   Need to check if the roof is a Viking or some other type.

You might get lucky and find a C&NW that only needs to have the number changed.

Here is a pdf of the banner.   Since it is on a white background I would size the boxcar on my drawing to HO and print out the banner as a separate image on white decal stock.  The banner not on the car has a slight black border to use as a guide to cut the banner to size.

It should just fit between the door and the ladder.

 

Have Fun!!

Charlie Vlk

 


1944 USRA single sheathed cars

John Barry
 

With the pending release of the Rapido SS USRA car, I did a little homework with my October 1944 ORER.  I posted a list of the 2305 cars listed there in the following blog post:  The Rapido Single Sheathed USRA Box Car


Happy Modeling


John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA


707-490-9696 





Re: [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

 

Clark, Pierre has a Kadee ladder drilling template along with the Kadee grab iron template (both sides and ends)

Rich Christie

On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 11:42:00 AM CDT, BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...> wrote:


I would like to find one of the following cars in order to recreate the attached photo.

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/ho/html/45808.htm

 

Owatonna Tool Company was owned by my mother’s side of the family.

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <PlasticFreightCarBuiilders@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io> on behalf of "Clark Propst via groups.io" <cepropst@...>
Reply-To: <PlasticFreightCarBuiilders@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io>, <cepropst@q.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 11:17 AM
To: <main@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io>, <PlasticFreightCarBuiilders@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io>
Subject: [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

 

I just finished a kitbash of an Intermountain AAR 1937 modified box car with their PS1 ends and roof to make a riveted PS1. I thought I’d use Kadee ladders to get the straight stile style used on the ends of the 48 blt cars. They turned out to be a pain. I didn’t drill holes for their pegs, just cut them off and acced them to the sides/ends. I noticed one had skewed again from handling. If I attempt to use them again I’ll drill a few holes. I had no issues with their bracket  grabs. Again I snipped off two of the mounting pegs and glued them into the holes already in the car sides. Another battle I fought was with the hand brake/retainer valve combo. Took me awhile to realize the part was for the AAR car and therefore the pegs wouldn’t fit in the predrilled holes in the PS1 ends...In hindsight I wish I’d used the Kadee parts...I did add a bit of styrene for the trust plate on the upper left of the sides and use a Kadee running board. I had to make the end bracket grab, I used one end of a bracket grab on the right and a piece of wire bent in an L attached to it and into a hole on the left. Painted with Tamiya Gray primer and Tru-color CNW freight car color, Speedwitch decals. I do have a complaint about that set. There’s no PS builders stencil, or new bearing pack info, both show on builders photos from RPCyc 1. Had to scrounge them for saved scraps. Lastly I airbrushed on Dullcote and went over the roof with a Dullcote brown tint mix. Modeling 48 – 50 makes the car new or nearly new.

Painting these CNW PS1 is one where guys go with their gut. It appeared to me that ‘maybe’ all the other series had black car cement ends and roofs. I do have a color photo of this series all bcr, a repaint? I’ve actually climbed up and looks at the roofs on these cars. It’s possible they were not painted, just the seam caps and rivet lines around the  perimeter were tarred and painted color color?

Clark Propst

Mason City Iowa


Re: Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Yeah that works but (maybe obviously) I was looking to save the booklet . . .

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 1:17 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

Flip/open each page and do a screen save of each page.

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 11:58 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

I’d like to save this for future reference, but all I can save (so far) is the image of the cover.  Anybody know how to save it all?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 12:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

An article by James Kindraka from the January-February issue of the Dispatch, a publication of the National Association of S Gaugers:

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/54078959/the-story-of-milk-transportation-by-rail-river-raisin-models

There are photos, data and operational information in this article.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

Charlie Vlk
 

Schuyler-

When I saved it I saved each png page individually with the name Milk Run A etc.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 11:58 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

I’d like to save this for future reference, but all I can save (so far) is the image of the cover.  Anybody know how to save it all?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 12:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

An article by James Kindraka from the January-February issue of the Dispatch, a publication of the National Association of S Gaugers:

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/54078959/the-story-of-milk-transportation-by-rail-river-raisin-models

There are photos, data and operational information in this article.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

Douglas Harding
 

Flip/open each page and do a screen save of each page.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 11:58 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

I’d like to save this for future reference, but all I can save (so far) is the image of the cover.  Anybody know how to save it all?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 12:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

An article by James Kindraka from the January-February issue of the Dispatch, a publication of the National Association of S Gaugers:

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/54078959/the-story-of-milk-transportation-by-rail-river-raisin-models

There are photos, data and operational information in this article.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Rolling The Freight (1947)

Bob Chaparro
 

Rolling The Freight (1947)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sstFcKqjF2s&t=1180s

A promotional film produced by the Chicago & North Western Railroad depicting the movement of freight trains. The film covers different types of freight trains as well as the various yards, warehouses and other infrastructure required for "Rolling the Freight" via the Chicago & North Western System.

There are many freight car run-bys early in the film.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I’d like to save this for future reference, but all I can save (so far) is the image of the cover.  Anybody know how to save it all?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 12:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

An article by James Kindraka from the January-February issue of the Dispatch, a publication of the National Association of S Gaugers:

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/54078959/the-story-of-milk-transportation-by-rail-river-raisin-models

There are photos, data and operational information in this article.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

Bob Chaparro
 

Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

An article by James Kindraka from the January-February issue of the Dispatch, a publication of the National Association of S Gaugers:

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/54078959/the-story-of-milk-transportation-by-rail-river-raisin-models

There are photos, data and operational information in this article.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

 

I would like to find one of the following cars in order to recreate the attached photo.

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/ho/html/45808.htm

 

Owatonna Tool Company was owned by my mother’s side of the family.

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <PlasticFreightCarBuiilders@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io> on behalf of "Clark Propst via groups.io" <cepropst@...>
Reply-To: <PlasticFreightCarBuiilders@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io>, <cepropst@q.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 11:17 AM
To: <main@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io>, <PlasticFreightCarBuiilders@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io>
Subject: [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

 

I just finished a kitbash of an Intermountain AAR 1937 modified box car with their PS1 ends and roof to make a riveted PS1. I thought I’d use Kadee ladders to get the straight stile style used on the ends of the 48 blt cars. They turned out to be a pain. I didn’t drill holes for their pegs, just cut them off and acced them to the sides/ends. I noticed one had skewed again from handling. If I attempt to use them again I’ll drill a few holes. I had no issues with their bracket  grabs. Again I snipped off two of the mounting pegs and glued them into the holes already in the car sides. Another battle I fought was with the hand brake/retainer valve combo. Took me awhile to realize the part was for the AAR car and therefore the pegs wouldn’t fit in the predrilled holes in the PS1 ends...In hindsight I wish I’d used the Kadee parts...I did add a bit of styrene for the trust plate on the upper left of the sides and use a Kadee running board. I had to make the end bracket grab, I used one end of a bracket grab on the right and a piece of wire bent in an L attached to it and into a hole on the left. Painted with Tamiya Gray primer and Tru-color CNW freight car color, Speedwitch decals. I do have a complaint about that set. There’s no PS builders stencil, or new bearing pack info, both show on builders photos from RPCyc 1. Had to scrounge them for saved scraps. Lastly I airbrushed on Dullcote and went over the roof with a Dullcote brown tint mix. Modeling 48 – 50 makes the car new or nearly new.

Painting these CNW PS1 is one where guys go with their gut. It appeared to me that ‘maybe’ all the other series had black car cement ends and roofs. I do have a color photo of this series all bcr, a repaint? I’ve actually climbed up and looks at the roofs on these cars. It’s possible they were not painted, just the seam caps and rivet lines around the  perimeter were tarred and painted color color?

Clark Propst

Mason City Iowa


Re: Photo-etch benders - hinged vs "Razer blade" types?

 

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 07:01 PM, Denis Kahl wrote:
Mission Models are now out of business.
I believe they are still in business but mostly paints and a few accessories now https://www.missionmodelsus.com/ (unless this is a different company than the one you mentioned.) Here's a review of that bender, indicating the issues you mentioned. Good to know!
 
--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD


Re: Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Randy Hammill
 

I did a quick post covering prototype roster info c1950 for the cars:

https://blog.newbritainstation.com/2021/06/usra-single-sheathed-box-cars.html?m=1

I’ve ordered mine!

Randy
--

Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
http://prototypejunction.com

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com


I have no more GN stock cars left.

Andy Carlson
 

I have sold all of these resin cars.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

Hello everyone-
I recently restored some patterns I made for the Great Northern's rebuilt-from-boxcars 40' stock cars. The 55200-55450 series, totaling 250 cars, were rebuilt from 31000 series of single sheathed box cars in 1958. Not a significant rebuild in that almost all of the 1925 built car's parts were retained. The wood siding was replaced with wooden slats and the steel 5/4/5 pre-war Youngstown steel doors were modified into top hung with 12 oval slots cut into the door.

Photos in color are found in Scott Thompson's GN box car and stock car 4-ways west book.
.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

Inline image


Movie: Fruit Express (1940s)

Bob Chaparro
 

Movie: Fruit Express (1940s)

https://archive.org/details/84574TheNewsMagazineFruitExpressVwr

Only fair quality.

The railroad action stops at about 4:40, however there are some scenes of tank cars with DDT being unloading at 4:48.

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railroad Citrus Industry Modeling Group

https://groups.io/g/RailroadCitrusIndustryModelingGroup


Pratt Truss design.

Scott
 

Does anybody have any dimensioned drawings of a Pratt Truss used on many singled sheathed cars?

Thank you,
Scott McDonald


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Andy Miller
 

Eldon,

I probably should have emailed Rapido a long time ago rather than just laugh at their booboo on this list. But it still appears on their website :
https://rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/freight-cars/ho-scale-gla-hopper under the list of features.

Regards,

Andy Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 10:52 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Andy;

There are always a lot of typos in these early phases.

I don't know that we are at the point we can verify for sure, but it looks like a 2D-F8, 50-ton version, at this point. The team is still digging.

Elden Gatwood


-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy Miller
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 10:38 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Speaking of typos, has anyone ever seem a photo of the "12DF8" truck advertised as being under the Rapido GLa? 😉 It could carry one hellava load but probably had problems on curves.

Andy Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralph W. Brown
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 12:28 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Yes, a typo. Ugh.

Thanks for the clarification.


Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Hansmann
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 12:23 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

I think Ralph had a typo in the Pennsy car class. The USRA single-sheathed boxcars were the X26 class on the PRR.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralph W. Brown
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 11:14 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

Hi Gerald, et al.,

Rapido is offering the PRR X36, aka USRA single sheathed boxcar, with both Youngstown and Creco doors. The website, however, shows the six car sets of both versions will have the same six car numbers. I hoping that changes.

Pax,


Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Henriksen
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 11:32 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA Single Sheath Boxcar announced

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 19:43:41 -0400, you wrote:

Just announced on a Facebook Live, newsletter and website will show it
sometime tomorrow.

- 3 different doors
- Ann Arbor, B&O, C&O, CNJ, C&NW, D&H, MEC, MILW, N&W, NYC, Pennsy,
Reading, SP, + 1 more couldn't see (I think I got the list correct from
the image they showed on the livestream).
Website now live:
Blockedhttps://rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/freight-cars/ho-scale-usra-single
-sheathed-wood-boxcar

Or the PDF brochure:
Blockedhttps://files.constantcontact.com/b02e8bb6001/276e9961-da24-414c-abcb-7f7b57
a59af7.pdf

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