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Re: Photo: Single Sheathed Boxcar 163235

O Fenton Wells
 

Well done my friend
Fenton

On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 11:46 AM Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
A sunshine model of the Frisco boxcar car.
Paul Doggett.   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 




On 26 Jun 2021, at 16:12, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:



Photo: Single Sheathed Boxcar 163235

Photo from the Frisco Archive:

https://frisco.org/mainline/2014/09/17/outside-braced-boxcar-163235/

Click on the photo twice for maximum enlargement.

Built 4-1930. Photo taken 4-1951 or later.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



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Re: Photo: Single Sheathed Boxcar 163235

Paul Doggett
 

A sunshine model of the Frisco boxcar car.
Paul Doggett.   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 




On 26 Jun 2021, at 16:12, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:



Photo: Single Sheathed Boxcar 163235

Photo from the Frisco Archive:

https://frisco.org/mainline/2014/09/17/outside-braced-boxcar-163235/

Click on the photo twice for maximum enlargement.

Built 4-1930. Photo taken 4-1951 or later.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Frisco Express Boxcar 109163

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Frisco Express Boxcar 109163

Photo from the Frisco Archive:

https://frisco.org/mainline/2017/12/07/465-class-express-boxcar-109163/

Click on the photo twice for maximum enlargement.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Frisco Automobile Boxcar 152805

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Frisco Automobile Boxcar 152805

Photo from the Frisco Archive:

https://frisco.org/mainline/2015/06/18/boxcar-152805/

Click on the photo twice for maximum enlargement.

Photo taken 7-1939 or later.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Single Sheathed Boxcar 163235

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Single Sheathed Boxcar 163235

Photo from the Frisco Archive:

https://frisco.org/mainline/2014/09/17/outside-braced-boxcar-163235/

Click on the photo twice for maximum enlargement.

Built 4-1930. Photo taken 4-1951 or later.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Vallejo galvanized paint color

Daniel A. Mitchell
 

My experience is that plain aluminum, or plain anodized aluminum, is a "whiter” color than plain galvanized steel. Aluminum "grays” and dulls with age.

NEW galvanized steel is brighter and more reflective than plain steel, and has a slightly blueish color. New galvanized panels are usually quite smooth and shiny. Their surface dulls, roughens and “grays” with age. Older galvanized steel will acquire a more reddish or brownish color as rusting begins … this will usually start around the edges of the panels.

New galvanized steel does not accept paint well … it does not adhere.

Of course ANY such panels will also acquire a coating of dirt. As the surface of the panel corrodes it become rough and dirt will more easily adhere to it. The flatter the roof angle, the more dirt will accumulate and affect the color.

Dan Mitchell
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On Jun 26, 2021, at 10:31 AM, mrvant@... wrote:

Vallejo also offers flat aluminum in its metal colours line. 


Re: Rapido GARX Meat Reefers

Gerald Henriksen
 

On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 16:11:44 -0500, you wrote:

Not mine. Introducing a U25B/U28Bph1, but NOT in Rock Island, even though they owned 50+ of them.
So, just to be clear Rapido are not currently doing a U28Bph1, and
they have also on the first run of U25B units skipped several
railroads that had many more units than the Rock Island.

Spamming multiple groups with your unhappiness isn't fair to Rapido -
no manufacturer can satisfy everyone on the first run of a model that
had many prototype owners.


Re: Photo: Pickle Car - further question

Ray Breyer
 

>>It would seem odd, to me, for a Heinz or L&S pickle tank car to deliver product to Cruikshank. How did smaller operations >>receive their pickles?
>>Eric Hansmann
 
Hi Eric, 

Believe it or not, cucumbers were the most popular "vegetable" in the 19th Century, and were grown everywhere, especially in hothouses and greenhouses for winter consumption (Cleveland had something like 68 acres of cucumber greenhouses in the 1890s). Because of this, and because pickling companies were so local, most of the produce was trucked into the plants (and generally, trucked out since it was only needed for local deliveries).

Only a very few companies were large regional or national, with Heinz, Squier Dingee, and Libby being three of the largest. They'd need pickle cars, but 99% of all other pickle producers would not.

I can only find three direct references to "pickle tank cars" in the 1917 ORER. Were there more? Maybe: private companies at that time were VERY sketchy about their car information, so a listed "tank car" might have been a "pickle tank". We'll never know, unless we get lucky and spot something in an early photograph.

Oh: here's ALL of the pickle cars in the ACF lot list. There aren't many:
1904 - lot 3161 - Hyman Pickle Co (4 cars)
1904 - lot 3277 - Hyman (1 car)
1908 - lot 5308 - Keokuk Canning Co (1 car)
1909 - lot 5552 - Libbys (2 cars)
1910 - lot 6012 - Libbys (2 cars)
1919 - lot 8782 - Hyman (1 car)
1920 - lot 9064 - Hyman (1 car)
1921 - lot 9206 - Hirsch Brothers Pickle Co (2 cars)

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL

  


Re: Vallejo galvanized paint color

mrvant@rogers.com
 

Vallejo also offers flat aluminum in its metal colours line. 


Re: CNW USRA Box Cars

Benjamin Hom
 

John Golden asked:
"Any thoughts on why the C&NW cars are not reported in RP Cyc?"

That's for Ed and Pat to answer.


Ben Hom


Re: FS code 110 33” metal wheelsets

Brian Carlson
 

Wow. That was quick. Wheels are sold pending payment.

Brian J. Carlson

On Jun 25, 2021, at 11:39 PM, Brian Carlson via groups.io <prrk41361=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

No shows to sell at so I have close to 1 lb of code 110 33” wheelsets. These include, Tangent, Intermountain, BLI, Kato, Rapido and others. They are generally new since I use code 88 semi-scale There are even some random orphaned trucks that have been replaced. There are probably enough for 20 cars at least. (Started to count them out then stopped. 2 pic) I need to clean up the workbench so offering them all for $10 plus USPS priority mail. Photos attached.

Contact me off list at prrk41361 at yahoo dot com.

Brian J. Carlson





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Re: CNW USRA Box Cars

golden1014
 

Thanks Ben.  Any thoughts on why the C&NW cars are not reported in RP Cyc?  John Golden


Re: CNW USRA Box Cars

Tim O'Connor
 


Here's one of the look alikes. A clone perhaps?

Tim


On 6/26/2021 8:44 AM, golden1014 via groups.io wrote:
Hi Gentlemen,

I see that Rapido is offering a C&NW version of their USRA single-sheathed box car.  

C&NW had some look-alikes with 7-8 ends.  But did they also have straight USRA SS?  There is no reference in RP Cyc of any cars assigned to C&NW.

Thanks for your help!

John Golden
Ramstein-Miesenbach, DE 09012


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Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: CNW USRA Box Cars

Benjamin Hom
 

John Golden asked:
I see that Rapido is offering a C&NW version of their USRA single-sheathed box car.  

C&NW had some look-alikes with 7-8 ends.  But did they also have straight USRA SS?  There is no reference in RP Cyc of any cars assigned to C&NW."

Yes.  C&NW 143700-144698 (even), 500 cars, and C&NW 144700-145698 (even), 500 cars.

USRA freight car assignments transcribed from the Lane Railroad History article at Eric Hansmann's blog here:


Ben Hom


CNW USRA Box Cars

golden1014
 

Hi Gentlemen,

I see that Rapido is offering a C&NW version of their USRA single-sheathed box car.  

C&NW had some look-alikes with 7-8 ends.  But did they also have straight USRA SS?  There is no reference in RP Cyc of any cars assigned to C&NW.

Thanks for your help!

John Golden
Ramstein-Miesenbach, DE 09012


FS code 110 33” metal wheelsets

Brian Carlson
 

No shows to sell at so I have close to 1 lb of code 110 33” wheelsets. These include, Tangent, Intermountain, BLI, Kato, Rapido and others. They are generally new since I use code 88 semi-scale There are even some random orphaned trucks that have been replaced. There are probably enough for 20 cars at least. (Started to count them out then stopped. 2 pic) I need to clean up the workbench so offering them all for $10 plus USPS priority mail. Photos attached.

Contact me off list at prrk41361 at yahoo dot com.

Brian J. Carlson


Re: Vallejo galvanized paint color

irv_thomae
 

Returning to galvanized again:   IDK if this happened on box car roofs, but I've studied quite a few old barns here in Vermont, which often have galvanized roofing - sometimes a mixture of types..   It seems to me that when rust is just beginning to show here and there, the not-yet-rusted areas seem to have a bluish cast, rather than grey.  


Fw: Milwaukee car diagram book 1958

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello,

I have reproduced a Milwaukee freight car diagram book from 1958, just at the end of the classic era.

The original book in my collection, measured 4 1/2" by 11 1/2". The reproduced size is 8 1/2 by 11", allowing two diagrams per page. The comb binding allows the book to open flat. Note the sample page shows two rib side boxcars, one with a end door.

The 1958 date starts with some modernization of the freight car fleet, while still listing many composite car classes built in the 1920's. There are many surprises, such as 50' composite wood chip car, many variations of flat cars from 36' to 53', log cars, covered hoppers, MOW cars and cabooses.

81 pages for $29.95 plus shipping.

Please contact me off list.


Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


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Re: Vallejo galvanized paint color

Daniel A. Mitchell
 

Yes and no. Mostly I agree with you, but “sand” can mean any of a variety of granular minerals. Common “beach" sand is mostly silicon oxide. On the other hand most sand used as an abrasive (“sandpaper”) is aluminum oxide. I thought that was more descriptive of the porous granular coating formed on anodized aluminum.

Dan Mitchell
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On Jun 25, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:

Dan Mitchell wrote:

Plainly anodized aluminum is a whitish-silver color. It’s actually a (usually thick) layer of aluminum-oxide (colorless sand).

Um, no. Sand is commonly mostly made up of silicon oxide or silica, not aluminum oxide, though there are numerous minerals that contain aluminum, and thus can be present in sand.

Tony Thompson
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Re: Vallejo galvanized paint color

Tony Thompson
 

Dan Mitchell wrote:

Plainly anodized aluminum is a whitish-silver color. It’s actually a (usually thick) layer of aluminum-oxide (colorless sand).
Um, no. Sand is commonly mostly made up of silicon oxide or silica, not aluminum oxide, though there are numerous minerals that contain aluminum, and thus can be present in sand.

Tony Thompson
tony@signaturepress.com

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