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Who makes decals for HO USRA SS boxcars?

Charlie Duckworth
 

I know Tichy bought out some of Jerry Glows decals but have read they are pretty thick.  Speedwitch also sold to another company.  Any suggestions on an accurate, quality HO decal set for the USRA SS boxcar?  PRR or other roads that owned them would be fine  


thanks. 
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Photo: View Of Southern Gondola 187070 Underframe

CJ Riley
 

Those wheels appear to have the wide NMRA Rp 25 treads.




Re: Photo: Southern Boxcar 163172 (1925)

lrkdbn
 

I suspect this was in the Tri-State Tornado of Mar.18 1925. Note the damage to the shop buildings.
Larry King


Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b

Brian Carlson
 

C’mon Schuyler it not like Walthers would put the scheme on a totally wrong car…..oh wait. :)

On Jul 15, 2021, at 12:58 PM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

And it could very well mean "the old tooling was so worn that we just HAD to recut it."  Doesn't mean it was "new AND IMPROVED tooling."

And in sets of a dozen at a time???  Seriously?  That's nuts.

Schuyler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 12:21 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
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Bruce Smith wrote:
"I will point out that the latest posting from Walthers says "New tooling" for the X29B, whatever that means."

Craig Miller on the PRR list pointed out that the "new tooling" likely pertains to the passenger cars for the General.


Ben Hom












Photo: L&N Boxcar 1991 (Circa 1915)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: L&N Boxcar 1991 (Circa 1915)

Photo from the Indiana Album website:

https://indianaalbum.pastperfectonline.com/photo/E1C722E5-CACF-4736-93E0-080254960836

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b

Schuyler Larrabee
 

And it could very well mean "the old tooling was so worn that we just HAD to recut it." Doesn't mean it was "new AND IMPROVED tooling."

And in sets of a dozen at a time??? Seriously? That's nuts.

Schuyler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 12:21 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b

Bruce Smith wrote:
"I will point out that the latest posting from Walthers says "New tooling" for the X29B, whatever that means."

Craig Miller on the PRR list pointed out that the "new tooling" likely pertains to the passenger cars for the General.


Ben Hom


Photo: Southern Boxcar 163172 (1925)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Southern Boxcar 163172 (1925)

Photo from the Indiana Album website:

https://indianaalbum.pastperfectonline.com/photo/22A4CAB1-4565-45C4-B918-424967433100

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Appears to be a double-sheathed boxcar with metal ends,

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Minneapolis & St. Louis Two-Bay Hopper 60019

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Minneapolis & St. Louis Two-Bay Hopper 60019

Photo from Classic Trains website:

https://www.trains.com/ctr/photos-videos/photo-of-the-day/classic-coal-hauler/

Built in 1936.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: View Of Southern Gondola 187070 Underframe

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: View Of Southern Gondola 187070 Underframe

Photo from Indiana Album website:

https://indianaalbum.pastperfectonline.com/photo/70123B1B-F933-401E-ABF1-212121113340

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b

Benjamin Hom
 

Bruce Smith wrote:
"I will point out that the latest posting from Walthers says "New tooling" for the X29B, whatever that means."

Craig Miller on the PRR list pointed out that the "new tooling" likely pertains to the passenger cars for the General.


Ben Hom


Re: ACL 24000-24499 Photo

Guy Wilber
 

Nelson Moyer wrote:

"Thanks, Ben. I suspect the placard board mounts have been moved down, but the rest of the B end looks like AF&C drawings for this type of car. AF&C allowed the railroads to specify details, so you can’t get prototype specifics from the generic AF&C drawings."


Nelson,

Is the "B" end of this car as built?  Was the "A" end different or did it have the same odd combination of different upper and lower panels?  The top panel itself is an odd combination of corrugations or lack thereof.  

Thanks,

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada  
 

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Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b

Bruce Smith
 

Ben, Brian, Folks,

I will point out that the latest posting from Walthers says "New tooling" for the X29B, whatever that means.

And yeah, I think maybe the Walthers folks have been looking at too many NYC promotional posters and though, "wow, a train of MS cars would be cool"!  Oh well...

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Carlson via groups.io <prrk41361@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 7:41 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b
 
CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.
We’ve been discussing these and the other PRR new releases on the PRR groups.Io page. 
Consensus is be skeptical until you see a model. 

Also, the Pennsy merchandise service cars did Not run in dedicated trains like this so it’s a weird marketing strategy. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Jul 15, 2021, at 8:26 AM, Brian LaManna <brianlamanna@...> wrote:


List,

Walthers announced an X29b in their Proto line but no model pictures have been included.  They’re currently only offered for preorder in large sets.  

https://www.walthers.com/prr-merchandise-service-train-x29b-n6b-prr-30907-30912-30918-30933-30935-30949-30956-30968-30977-30986-309

Brian LaManna/Moncton, NB


Re: M3 Tank - boxcar load

Ian Cranstone
 

I'm thinking that these photos were related to some sort of experiment to see if automobile boxcars could be used in this kind of service. Flat cars would have been in high demand for all sorts of war-related cargos, but with the domestic automobile industry largely shut down for production of other war goods, there would have been a large fleet of automobile cars available for other uses. If light tanks could be accommodated, that would have been very useful – and as a bonus, their movements would have been less viewable.

Of course, if the floorboards on the automobile cars couldn't take the load... but I'll bet they could accommodate armoured cars, and likely trucks of the day.

Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada
lamontc@...

 


On 2021-07-14 17:21, Andy Laurent via groups.io wrote:

Something new for those DD auto boxcars.  An M3 Stuart light tank in a boxcar!  June 2, 1942.
(Floor boards didn't hold up as well as a flatcar's decking would have)


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Group;

 

No one on the PRRT&HS Modeling Committee worked with Walthers on these projects, as far as I can determine.  Given the unique features of the X29B, we will just have to see the actual products.

 

Elden Gatwood

PRRT&HS Modeling Committee, Chair

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 8:42 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b

 

We’ve been discussing these and the other PRR new releases on the PRR groups.Io page. 

Consensus is be skeptical until you see a model. 

 

Also, the Pennsy merchandise service cars did Not run in dedicated trains like this so it’s a weird marketing strategy. 

Brian J. Carlson 



On Jul 15, 2021, at 8:26 AM, Brian LaManna <brianlamanna@...> wrote:

List,

 

Walthers announced an X29b in their Proto line but no model pictures have been included.  They’re currently only offered for preorder in large sets.  

 

 

Brian LaManna/Moncton, NB


Re: ACL 24000-24499 Photo

Nelson Moyer
 

Thanks, Ben. I suspect the placard board mounts have been moved down, but the rest of the B end looks like AF&C drawings for this type of car. AF&C allowed the railroads to specify details, so you can’t get prototype specifics from the generic AF&C drawings.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:42 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ACL 24000-24499 Photo

 

Nelson Moyer asked:

"I need an end view of the ACL 24000-24499 series showing the air hose hanger. A straight on B end view would be wonderful. Any other photos would be welcomed as I only have one side view and a three quarter view showing the uncoupling lever, but the air hose is behind the coupler."

 

Here's a 3/4 view of a restored car at Albany GA (Russell Ottens photo, 2/26/2005):

 

 

Ben Hom

 


Re: ALC 24000-24499 Photo

Nelson Moyer
 

Yes, it shows the air hose bracket very nicely. Interestingly, ACL turned the L-bracket connected to the coupler box 90° from the orientation used by MKT and DT&I for these AF&C built cars. Little details like that depend upon photos. Thank you!

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 7:06 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ALC 24000-24499 Photo

 

This may help

 

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 10:54 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

I need an end view of the ACL 24000-24499 series showing the air hose hanger. A straight on B end view would be wonderful. Any other photos would be welcomed as I only have one side view and a three quarter view showing the uncoupling lever, but the air hose is behind the coupler.

 

Nelson Moyer


 

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Re: Walthers Proto PRR X29b

Benjamin Hom
 

Brian LaManna wrote:
"Walthers announced an X29b in their Proto line but no model pictures have been included.  They’re currently only offered for preorder in large sets.  
https://www.walthers.com/prr-merchandise-service-train-x29b-n6b-prr-30907-30912-30918-30933-30935-30949-30956-30968-30977-30986-309 

Lacking proof of new tooling for the Class X29B boxcars, color me extremely skeptical with only a prototype photo shown.  I suspect that these will be their "1944 AAR boxcar" in MS1.
https://www.walthers.com/40-aar-1944-boxcar-ready-to-run-undecorated 

To me, it's not worth $549 to find out.


Ben Hom


Re: Walthers Proto PRR X29b

Brian Carlson
 

We’ve been discussing these and the other PRR new releases on the PRR groups.Io page. 
Consensus is be skeptical until you see a model. 

Also, the Pennsy merchandise service cars did Not run in dedicated trains like this so it’s a weird marketing strategy. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Jul 15, 2021, at 8:26 AM, Brian LaManna <brianlamanna@...> wrote:


List,

Walthers announced an X29b in their Proto line but no model pictures have been included.  They’re currently only offered for preorder in large sets.  

https://www.walthers.com/prr-merchandise-service-train-x29b-n6b-prr-30907-30912-30918-30933-30935-30949-30956-30968-30977-30986-309

Brian LaManna/Moncton, NB


Walthers Proto PRR X29b

Brian LaManna
 

List,

Walthers announced an X29b in their Proto line but no model pictures have been included.  They’re currently only offered for preorder in large sets.  

https://www.walthers.com/prr-merchandise-service-train-x29b-n6b-prr-30907-30912-30918-30933-30935-30949-30956-30968-30977-30986-309

Brian LaManna/Moncton, NB


Re: ALC 24000-24499 Photo

O Fenton Wells
 

This may help


On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 10:54 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

I need an end view of the ACL 24000-24499 series showing the air hose hanger. A straight on B end view would be wonderful. Any other photos would be welcomed as I only have one side view and a three quarter view showing the uncoupling lever, but the air hose is behind the coupler.

 

Nelson Moyer



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