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Re: Southern Boxcar 3218

C J Wyatt
 

I believe Southern converted some of the double sheathed, double door boxcars (like the Sunshine model) early in WWII. I have never seen a picture and I can't explain the apparent vent.

Jack Wyatt


Re: Rock Island Series 2300-23999 Photos

O Fenton Wells
 

Check Tangent they just released a bunch of new parts
Fenton 


On Jul 18, 2021, at 6:13 PM, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:



I checked the online photo archives, and I can’t find a B end view showing the air pipe and hose bracket or a  right side view showing the relief valve rod and air reservoir. According to the information I have that series got URECO hand brakes. Now that Detail Associates is gone, does anyone know of a source for URECO brake housings and wheels?

 

Nelson Moyer


Rock Island Series 2300-23999 Photos

Nelson Moyer
 

I checked the online photo archives, and I can’t find a B end view showing the air pipe and hose bracket or a  right side view showing the relief valve rod and air reservoir. According to the information I have that series got URECO hand brakes. Now that Detail Associates is gone, does anyone know of a source for URECO brake housings and wheels?

 

Nelson Moyer


Re: 1st with K4 decals

Tim O'Connor
 


Thanks! I had thought they might be resin (like Roger Chrysler's Canadian "
Cockshutt" tractors)
or even 3D printed.

Tim O'Connor


On 7/18/2021 1:33 PM, Craig Wilson wrote:
Tractors made by Wiklng.  Years ago Walthers put them in a sale flier at a small discount so I ordered enough to do the flatcar load.  Took almost a year for them to show up.  They are Fergusons which are nearly dead ringers for the Ford tractors in the photo that Bob Schleicher used in just about every "wish list" article in RailModel Journal magazine.

The Wiking tractors had the exhaust pipe oriented vertically where on the Fords it ran horizonally along the frame.  I moved the pipes (which were delicate and easily broken) and painted the tractors red and gray like the Fords I had seen.

Craig Wilson


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Tim O'Connor
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Re: MP 1942 Boxcars 10-6 32500-33299 Photo Help

Brian Carlson
 

Thanks Ed. I’d would have probably numbered it wrong. 
I will be going a route of eagles repaint.  

Brian J. Carlson 

On Jul 18, 2021, at 4:05 PM, Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> wrote:



On Jul 18, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Brian Carlson via groups.io <prrk41361@...> wrote:

Way back in 2005 the Sunshine mini-kit for Naperville was for a MP 1942 era built boxcar. That was my first naperville and I started the kit around 2007 but never finished it.  It's been sitting on the workbench mostly done since 2008.  One issue was decals since I model 1956 but I have have that resolved.  My Covid promise was no more starts until the old ones were finished.  This guy is up next. 

The instructions have disappeared but that is ok. Can anyone help me find a few photos of these cars? When I started this car I just followed the directions. I didn't know better, and my first few resin cars were Westerfield.  You can just follow the instructions. Since then (14 years!) I have realized that I should have more materials. 

I think National Scale Car has a mini kit for the same cars now. The cars were in the 32500-33299 number series and constructed by ACF.

Brian Carlson 


Brian,
The 2005 Sunshine mini-kit was for different series of MoPac 40’ box cars built in 1942 in which the side sill door reinforcement extended from bolster to bolster, unlike the AAR model offered by InterMountain that is based on the more common design having separate side sill connections to the bolsters, crossties and crossbearers. The prototype cars were MP 34113-34262, StLB&M 17501-17600, and I-GN 17751-17825. The kit also includes doors with Union Duplex hardware.

Attached is a jpg scan of the information page included with the mini-kit. One comment I’ll offer is that MoPac’s box cars of this period were painted a red-brown shade (i.e., box car red) and not oxide red.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins

<2005 Sunshine Models Mini-kit Info.jpg>




Re: MP 1942 Boxcars 10-6 32500-33299 Photo Help

Ed Hawkins
 



On Jul 18, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Brian Carlson via groups.io <prrk41361@...> wrote:

Way back in 2005 the Sunshine mini-kit for Naperville was for a MP 1942 era built boxcar. That was my first naperville and I started the kit around 2007 but never finished it.  It's been sitting on the workbench mostly done since 2008.  One issue was decals since I model 1956 but I have have that resolved.  My Covid promise was no more starts until the old ones were finished.  This guy is up next. 

The instructions have disappeared but that is ok. Can anyone help me find a few photos of these cars? When I started this car I just followed the directions. I didn't know better, and my first few resin cars were Westerfield.  You can just follow the instructions. Since then (14 years!) I have realized that I should have more materials. 

I think National Scale Car has a mini kit for the same cars now. The cars were in the 32500-33299 number series and constructed by ACF.

Brian Carlson 


Brian,
The 2005 Sunshine mini-kit was for different series of MoPac 40’ box cars built in 1942 in which the side sill door reinforcement extended from bolster to bolster, unlike the AAR model offered by InterMountain that is based on the more common design having separate side sill connections to the bolsters, crossties and crossbearers. The prototype cars were MP 34113-34262, StLB&M 17501-17600, and I-GN 17751-17825. The kit also includes doors with Union Duplex hardware.

Attached is a jpg scan of the information page included with the mini-kit. One comment I’ll offer is that MoPac’s box cars of this period were painted a red-brown shade (i.e., box car red) and not oxide red.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins





Re: Square corner boxcar group build

Scott
 

Bill,  I believe those are the new etched ladders from Plano that came in the kit.

I will say that is some excellent modeling on everybody's part and thanks for sharing it.   I really liked the hangers for the brake rods as those add a lot of visual interest.  I never thought to use some phosphor bronze wire and a Tichy turnbuckle for the brake cylinder rod.  I will have to give that a try.  

Scott McDonald 


Re: Square corner boxcar group build

Todd Horton
 

The article mentions "modified AAR lettering guidelines". When did this take place?

Todd Horton


On Sunday, July 18, 2021, 09:10:56 AM EDT, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:


Jerry Hamsmith has shared photos and details of four modelers building the same Resin Car Works Illinois Central boxcar kit in the latest RCW blog post.

Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


MP 1942 Boxcars 10-6 32500-33299 Photo Help

Brian Carlson
 

Way back in 2005 the Sunshine mini-kit for Naperville was for a MP 1942 era built boxcar. That was my first naperville and I started the kit around 2007 but never finished it.  It's been sitting on the workbench mostly done since 2008.  One issue was decals since I model 1956 but I have have that resolved.  My Covid promise was no more starts until the old ones were finished.  This guy is up next.

The instructions have disappeared but that is ok. Can anyone help me find a few photos of these cars? When I started this car I just followed the directions. I didn't know better, and my first few resin cars were Westerfield.  You can just follow the instructions. Since then (14 years!) I have realized that I should have more materials. 

I think National Scale Car has a mini kit for the same cars now. The cars were in the 32500-33299 number series and constructed by ACF.

Brian Carlson 
Cheektowaga NY


Re: Square corner boxcar group build

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

This build utilizes across the board an interesting progression on building etched ladders.  Could the builders elaborate on howthey created the many perfectly spaced rungs?

Bill Pardie



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From: Eric Hansmann <eric@...>
Date: 7/18/21 3:10 AM (GMT-10:00)
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io, ResinFreightCarBuilders@groups.io, Proto-Layouts@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Square corner boxcar group build

Jerry Hamsmith has shared photos and details of four modelers building the same Resin Car Works Illinois Central boxcar kit in the latest RCW blog post.

Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


Re: 1st with K4 decals

Craig Wilson
 

Tractors made by Wiklng.  Years ago Walthers put them in a sale flier at a small discount so I ordered enough to do the flatcar load.  Took almost a year for them to show up.  They are Fergusons which are nearly dead ringers for the Ford tractors in the photo that Bob Schleicher used in just about every "wish list" article in RailModel Journal magazine.

The Wiking tractors had the exhaust pipe oriented vertically where on the Fords it ran horizonally along the frame.  I moved the pipes (which were delicate and easily broken) and painted the tractors red and gray like the Fords I had seen.

Craig Wilson


Re: Photo: FGEX 10883 (Circa 1948-1952)

akerboomk
 

RE: patch panel on end
Note there also appears to be a seam on the bottom end panel (same place as on the top end panel)
Hard to tell w/o the whole end, but I'll speculate:
ends were from a wider car and had to be cut down to fit width of this car?
Joints were staggered (right side of end on top/bottom panel, left side of end for middle panel)?

Thoughts?
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Ken Akerboom


Photo: Morrell Mechanical Meat Reefers (1954)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Morrell Mechanical Meat Reefers (1954)

Photo from Classic Trains website:

https://www.trains.com/ctr/photos-videos/photo-of-the-day/morrell-meat-reefers/

Caption:

“Meatpacking firm John Morrell & Co. led the switch away from ice in refrigerator cars. Two of Morrell’s Mather cars converted to mechanical refrigeration head east on the Illinois Central’s Iowa Division in 1954. They were the first mechanical meat reefers. Basil W. Koob photo”

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railway Bull Shippers Group

https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup


Photo: MILW Flat Car With Bridge Girder

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: MILW Flat Car With Bridge Girder

Photo from the Milwaukee Public Library:

https://content.mpl.org/digital/collection/HstoricPho/id/3569/rec/74

Use arrows and scroll on photo to enlarge it.

Description:    

“Wisconsin Bridge & Iron shipping yard. Rail flat cars seen loaded with bridge sections. Wooden ties visible on ground in staging area. Brick factory seen behind rail cars.”

Another view, but poor quality:

https://content.mpl.org/digital/collection/HstoricPho/id/3544/rec/67

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: A Load Of Trolley Buses (1942)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: A Load Of Trolley Buses (1942)

Photo from the Milwaukee Public Library:

https://content.mpl.org/digital/collection/HstoricPho/id/13695/rec/83

Use arrows and scroll on photo to enlarge it.

Description:    

“This photo shows four new trackless trolley buses arriving by standard trolley. All the vehicles were owned and operated by the Milwaukee Electric Railway and Transport (TMER&T) Company.”

Trolley buses built by Pullman-Standard.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: New Decal Available

Jeff Helm
 

Fenton

Outstanding models as always, Fenton.  Thank you for sharing your work.  I’m looking at my stash of CB&T, McKean and Front Range kits with new eyes!  I missed out on many of the Sunshine kits so it’s helpful to see great modeling with these alternatives, and at a more budget friendly level.
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Cheers

Jeff Helm
The Olympic Peninsula Branch
https://olympicpeninsulabranch.blogspot.com/


PFE R-40-23 sidesill reinforcements

Richard Townsend
 

Tony's PFE book tells us that in the 1950s PFE added sidesill reinforcements to R-40-23, R-40-20, and other steel reefers. I would like to know the dimensions of those reinforcements, particularly their depth.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


Re: New Decal Available

O Fenton Wells
 

For some reason I got the 40 ft DD boxcar bug after Martin left us and had a terrible time finding those cars at what I considered a reasonable price.  But I started using the CB&T, McKean and Front Range kits with new doors and ends and other appliances and they look great in my opinion (yes of course I'm biased).  Here is the B&O M-59 from a  Front Range kit and Chad Boas made the ends, doors and side sill reinforcements.  Also the SAL AF-4 using a McKean kit with Chad Boas ends and doors and side sill reinforcements.  Chad has been very helpful with freight car parts but so has Speedwitch and several others.  So go for it.


On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 10:00 AM Rich C via groups.io <rhcdmc=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Sunshine #40.4R is the later model with 4/4 ends. But as Tim states, using the Branchline kit along with proper doors and Archers will yield a good clone.

Rich Christie



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Re: New Decal Available

 

Sunshine #40.4R is the later model with 4/4 ends. But as Tim states, using the Branchline kit along with proper doors and Archers will yield a good clone.

Rich Christie


Re: Southern Boxcar 3218

O Fenton Wells
 

Gary, I don't have that book nor do I have a photo of the car you are talking about but my 1951 SRR ORER shows series 3200-3239 were 40'-6" ft wd express cars with steel underframe, class BX.  That's as much help as I can offer.  I've never seen a photo of one.
Fenton

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 11:59 PM gary laakso <vasa0vasa@...> wrote:

Kalmbach’s Steam’s Lost Empire 2 at page 93 has a David Morgan overhead picture of a Ps-4 leaving Lynchberg, VA with the first car behind it a Southern boxcar 3218 that appears to have a vent square to the left side of the door at roof level.  Is it an express boxcar?

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock



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