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No Thank You-For Sale: HO Scale Resin ,Plastic, Kits and Built up and some Misc Items & Tools
Andy Carlson
I will pass on a list at this time, save the electrons for someone more deserving.Thanks, -Andy Carlson Ojai CA _._,_._,_
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Re: For Sale: HO Scale Resin ,Plastic, Kits and Built up and some Misc Items & Tools
lrkdbn
I would like to have the list also
Laurance King lrkdbn@...
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Re: ORER lookup help
A question of clarification:
Swift had (from GAT) a small number of 40’ steel reefers (1949, I think) and a much larger group of 36 steel reefers (1954).
As the most modern of the Swift fleet, I would assume it less likely that either of these were rebuilding candidates.
I would speculate that the rebuilds came from elsewhere in the GAT fleet. I wonder where?
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Gray
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 3:26 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER lookup help
Richard, WOW! Yes, I conjured that these cars were converted from post war (maybe 1945 or ’46 built), but your information leads to 1954 built 40’ steel Ice Bunker cars (GATX). I have seen the date of 1954, elsewhere, and was thinking that,that may have been the approximate time conversion, but now you have provided a “smoking gun” to 1959. And, yes, they were cut in-two and stretched and the original swing doors replaced, spliced side panel L-R of the door with a wider plug door, but the remaining “split ends” have the horizontal panel seams! The roof and underframe are spliced and the Ice Hatches sealed. I believe that the cars at Illinois may have arrived in about 1971. The Mad River & NKP in Bellevue, OH has a car. But, it was acquired in 1980, is painted Yellow with Black ends and had a URTX reporting mark and number (a later retirement?). A real guess as to the original 250xx that this car carried. Again to ALL, many great thanks and appreciations!
- Jeff Gray
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Richard Townsend via groups.io
I believe the 1954 built dates come from the cars these cars were converted from. Those cars, from the 15000 series, were built in 1954. I believe the lengthening by splicing in a center section, and the mechanization, occurred in 1959.
I have never seen a photo of the 25000 cars in anything but silver paint. This tends to support the later built/conversion date. The fact that they are not in the ORER by 1/59 also supports this. Richard Townsend Lincoln City, OR
-----Original Message----- Thank you Steve, this is a big help. Yes, Illini has 3 cars with numbers <25050 and United in NJ also has one 25048. So, every piece on the puzzle helps. The photos I have found are Silver paint scheme. These cars are from about 1954. Does anyone know when the Swift Red scheme became Silver? And/or were these cars always silver scheme? Again, thanks to everyone.
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> Date: 7/23/21 3:16 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER lookup help
The SRLX cars are listed in the GATX area of the ORER.
In 1966 I see
With these note a few pages later
There are a couple of these cars at the Illinois Railway Museum.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
I have the 7/56, 1/58, and 1/59 ORERs and do not find SRLX 25000 series in any of them. Richard Townsend Lincoln City, OR
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Old fiction story about electric trains
Charlie Vlk
Please excuse the off-topic cross posts but somebody might be able to help
me with a search for a book I fondly remember from my childhood. In the 1950s I used to spend hot summer days in the air-conditioned basement Children's Department of the Carnegie Library in Brookfield, Illinois. The book I am looking for was probably published in the 1920s or 1930s and was an illustrated story about a boy who got a big crate of electric trains via Railway Express. I seem to remember the crate had an endless supply of track sections that allowed the kid to run the railroad all over town. I have done a number of good internet searches and haven't come up with any fiction book that old on involving electric toy trains. If anybody remembers reading the book or its title I'd love to hear from you of-list! I have contacted the library but as they are about to move into their third building and no doubt the book has been long gone from the collection for more than a half-century I don't expect to be able to check it out there!!! Thanks, Charlie Vlk
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Re: ORER lookup help
Jeffrey Gray <bigsix@...>
Richard, WOW! Yes, I conjured that these cars were converted from post war (maybe 1945 or ’46 built), but your information leads to 1954 built 40’ steel Ice Bunker cars (GATX). I have seen the date of 1954, elsewhere, and was thinking that,that may have been the approximate time conversion, but now you have provided a “smoking gun” to 1959. And, yes, they were cut in-two and stretched and the original swing doors replaced, spliced side panel L-R of the door with a wider plug door, but the remaining “split ends” have the horizontal panel seams! The roof and underframe are spliced and the Ice Hatches sealed. I believe that the cars at Illinois may have arrived in about 1971. The Mad River & NKP in Bellevue, OH has a car. But, it was acquired in 1980, is painted Yellow with Black ends and had a URTX reporting mark and number (a later retirement?). A real guess as to the original 250xx that this car carried. Again to ALL, many great thanks and appreciations!
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 3:51 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER lookup help
I believe the 1954 built dates come from the cars these cars were converted from. Those cars, from the 15000 series, were built in 1954. I believe the lengthening by splicing in a center section, and the mechanization, occurred in 1959.
I have never seen a photo of the 25000 cars in anything but silver paint. This tends to support the later built/conversion date. The fact that they are not in the ORER by 1/59 also supports this. Richard Townsend Lincoln City, OR
-----Original Message----- Thank you Steve, this is a big help. Yes, Illini has 3 cars with numbers <25050 and United in NJ also has one 25048. So, every piece on the puzzle helps. The photos I have found are Silver paint scheme. These cars are from about 1954. Does anyone know when the Swift Red scheme became Silver? And/or were these cars always silver scheme? Again, thanks to everyone.
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> Date: 7/23/21 3:16 PM (GMT-05:00) To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER lookup help
The SRLX cars are listed in the GATX area of the ORER.
In 1966 I see
With these note a few pages later
There are a couple of these cars at the Illinois Railway Museum.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
I have the 7/56, 1/58, and 1/59 ORERs and do not find SRLX 25000 series in any of them. Richard Townsend Lincoln City, OR
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Re: Milwaukee Road Single-Sheather Box Car 713549
Nelson Moyer
And I add relief valve rods (bleed rods) after uncoupling levers for the same reason.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Lester Breuer
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 3:07 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Milwaukee Road Single-Sheather Box Car 713549
Jim I leave uncoupling levers until the end of a build as I use foam car holders ( attached photos) during my build. If I install them early I tend to catch them on the foam holders or I just catch them and bend them. Installing the uncoupling
levers at the end of the build saves me rework.
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Re: Milwaukee Road Single-Sheather Box Car 713549
Lester Breuer
Jim I leave uncoupling levers until the end of a build as I use foam car holders ( attached photos) during my build. If I install them early I tend to catch them on the foam holders or I just catch them and bend them. Installing the uncoupling levers at the end of the build saves me rework.
Lester Breuer
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Re: ORER lookup help
Richard Townsend
I believe the 1954 built dates come from the cars these cars were converted from. Those cars, from the 15000 series, were built in 1954. I believe the lengthening by splicing in a center section, and the mechanization, occurred in 1959.
I have never seen a photo of the 25000 cars in anything but silver paint. This tends to support the later built/conversion date. The fact that they are not in the ORER by 1/59 also supports this. Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Gray <bigsix@...> To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Sent: Fri, Jul 23, 2021 12:25 pm Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER lookup help Thank you Steve, this is a big help. Yes, Illini has 3 cars with numbers <25050 and United in NJ also has one 25048. So, every piece on the puzzle helps. The photos I have found are Silver paint scheme. These cars are from about 1954. Does anyone know when the Swift Red scheme became Silver? And/or were these cars always silver scheme? Again, thanks to everyone.
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...>
Date: 7/23/21 3:16 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER lookup help
The SRLX cars are listed in the GATX area of the ORER.
In 1966 I see
 With these note a few pages later
 There are a couple of these cars at the Illinois Railway Museum.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 2:06 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER lookup help I have the 7/56, 1/58, and 1/59 ORERs and do not find SRLX 25000 series in any of them.
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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Re: ADMIN: RE: [RealSTMFC] For Sale: HO Scale Resin ,Plastic, Kits and Built up and some Misc Items & Tools
gtws00
Sorry I forgot my email address to reply off list
Please Reply to gtws00 at yahoo.com to request list Thanks George Toman
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Re: ORER lookup help
Jeffrey Gray <bigsix@...>
Thank you Steve, this is a big help. Yes, Illini has 3 cars with numbers <25050 and United in NJ also has one 25048. So, every piece on the puzzle helps. The photos I have found are Silver paint scheme. These cars are from about 1954. Does anyone know when the Swift Red scheme became Silver? And/or were these cars always silver scheme? Again, thanks to everyone. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> Date: 7/23/21 3:16 PM (GMT-05:00) To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER lookup help The SRLX cars are listed in the GATX area of the ORER.
In 1966 I see
With these note a few pages later
There are a couple of these cars at the Illinois Railway Museum.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
I have the 7/56, 1/58, and 1/59 ORERs and do not find SRLX 25000 series in any of them. Richard Townsend Lincoln City, OR
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Re: ORER lookup help
The SRLX cars are listed in the GATX area of the ORER.
In 1966 I see
With these note a few pages later
There are a couple of these cars at the Illinois Railway Museum.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
I have the 7/56, 1/58, and 1/59 ORERs and do not find SRLX 25000 series in any of them. Richard Townsend Lincoln City, OR
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Re: ORER lookup help
Richard Townsend
I have the 7/56, 1/58, and 1/59 ORERs and do not find SRLX 25000 series in any of them. Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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ORER lookup help
Jeffrey Gray <bigsix@...>
Hello All, I am doing research on Swift Mechanical Reefers. These cars were in the SRLX 25000 (or 01) thru 25049 (or 50) and there were perhaps 50 cars. If you have an ORER between circa 1955 and 1970 in your library and can take a moment to look up and see what you find it is very appreciated. Car count, and any ancillary notes. A picture of the page would be great! Thank you.
-Jeff
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Re: Photo: PRR Livestock Car 135499
Benjamin Hom
Bob Chaparro wrote: "Photo: PRR Livestock Car 135499 Photo courtesy of Carl Venzke. Gus Ubaldi commented: “According to 1953 Railway Equipment Register, it was the last of an 813 car order of convertible deck, steel frame, 42' 6", class K7a stock car.” And a second photo from the railroad. A note by Thomas M. Olsen: Part of series 134079 - 135499. 1420 Cars. Convertible Deck, Steel Underframe. AAR, Mech. Designation "SC" A note by Ben Hom: PRR 134079-135499, K7A (10/1963 - 3, none listed in 4/1968)" To pull together the overall picture beyond the snippets of information above, Class K7A was rebuilt from Class X24 automobile boxcars in 1934-1935 and represented the largest single class of PRR stock cars during the steam-to-diesel transition era. This is the prototype for the Broadway Limited HO and N scale models. An article on improving the HO scale models, along with some prototype information, appeared in Issue 20 of The Keystone Modeler. Ben Hom _._,_._,_
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WESTERFIELD MODELS SALE REMINDER
dahminator68
Hello Steam Era Modeler: We want to remind all prototype modelers that the Westerfield Models Summer Sale runs through Next Wednesday! Ends at midnight, July 28, 2021. Mailed in orders can be sent up until July 31, 2021 but must be postmarked by 7-31-21. Our Sale will be in effect from 12:01 am WEDNESDAY, JULY 7, 2021 through 11:59 pm WEDNESDAY, JULY 28, 2021 and is available for orders placed on our Website, Mail-in Order Form, email or via Phone. Phone orders can be received from 9am to 5pm, Pacific Time Zone on normal business days.
Please note that our website no longer takes payments directly. Please note on the comment section your choice: 1: Paypal Invoice, 2: Secure Card Invoice, 3: We call you for your CC info, 4: Mail in a check. SALE #1: Buy 2 items and get 33% off the SECOND Item. This option is for like items only. For example, buy 2 Kits and get the second Kit at 33% off or buy 2 Decals and get the second Decal at 33% off. SALE #1: Buy 3 Items and get 50% off the THIRD Item. This option can be used for like items or ONE of each type item. For example, buy 3 Kits and get the third Kit at 50% off or buy 3 Decals and get the third Decal at 50% off, or one Kit, one decal & one detail part. SALE #2: Buy 3 Items and 3 Sets Tahoe Trucks and get 50% off BOTH the third item and third set of Tahoe Trucks. This option is for like items only. For example, buy 3 Kits and get the third Kit at 50% off or buy 3 Decals and get the third Decal at 50% off. COUPON CODE: BUY3TAHOE SALE #3: Buy 4 Items and get 75% off the FOURTH Item. This option can be used for like items or TWO of each type item. For example buy 4 gets and get the fourth Kit at 75% off or buy 4 decals and get the third Decal at 75% off, or two Kits and two Decals. This option is for the following types of items only: Kits, Decals, Detail Parts & Disks. See Restrictions Below*. COUPON CODE: BUY4SALE or buy 6 Detail Parts and get the 6th Detail Part Free or buy two Kits, two decals and two detail parts; one item is free.
SALE #5: Buy 6 Sets Tahoe Trucks and get the 6th set FREE. This option is for Tahoe Trucks only. See Restrictions Below* COUPON CODE: BUY6TAHOE
Please note that the Tahoe Coupon and everyday Tahoe truck discount CANNOT be combined Please make sure to enter the Sale OR Coupon code(s) and Payment method in the comment section of your order. Westerfield Kits include new HO scale unpainted highly detailed urethane castings, and are complete with quality details, detailed instruction/history sheets and proprietary decals covering all versions of the prototype car. Trucks and couplers are not included but are available - See below. Please also see our Ready To Ship Kits List on our website main page, left side:
Westerfield Models will be releasing some new Kits soon. Make sure you are signed up for our e-newsletter to receive the upcoming news. Questions or Suggestions? Feel free to email us at: westerfieldmodels@.... Thank you, Like us on Facebook!
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Re: For Sale: HO Scale Resin ,Plastic, Kits and Built up and some Misc Items & Tools
lsittler
Please send the list. Thanks.
From: gtws00 via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 10:44 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] For Sale: HO Scale Resin ,Plastic, Kits and
Built up and some Misc Items & Tools I
have up for sale some Resin and Styrene HO Freight Cars kits and Built Up for
sale. Also a few Misc Items and Tools List sent upon request. Excel or PDF George Toman Willow Springs , Il
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Photo: PRR Livestock Car 135499
Photo: PRR Livestock Car 135499 Photo courtesy of Carl Venzke. Gus Ubaldi commented: “According to 1953 Railway Equipment Register, it was the last of an 813 car order of convertible deck, steel frame, 42' 6", class K7a stock car.” And a second photo from the railroad. A note by Thomas M. Olsen: Part of series 134079 - 135499. 1420 Cars. Convertible Deck, Steel Underframe. AAR, Mech. Designation "SC" A note by Ben Hom: PRR 134079-135499, K7A (10/1963 - 3, none listed in 4/1968) Bob Chaparro Moderator Railway Bull Shippers Group
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ADMIN: RE: [RealSTMFC] For Sale: HO Scale Resin ,Plastic, Kits and Built up and some Misc Items & Tools
Aley, Jeff A
Hi Folks,
A reminder of the list rules – responses must be sent to sellers OFF LIST. It is therefore important that sellers post their email address so that potential buyers can contact them.
George, please provide the email address you’d like people to use.
Thanks,
-Jeff Aley Deputy Moderator RealSTMFC
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of gtws00 via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 7:45 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] For Sale: HO Scale Resin ,Plastic, Kits and Built up and some Misc Items & Tools
I have up for sale some Resin and Styrene HO Freight Cars kits and Built Up for sale. Also a few Misc Items and Tools
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Re: For Sale: HO Scale Resin ,Plastic, Kits and Built up and some Misc Items & Tools
Tony Thompson
I’d be interested in your list, George. Can’t seem to reply off-list.
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Tony Thompson tony@signaturepress.com
On Jul 23, 2021, at 7:44 AM, gtws00 via groups.io <gtws00=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: For Sale: HO Scale Resin ,Plastic, Kits and Built up and some Misc Items & Tools
Matthew Hurst
Hello George
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Could you please send me your list for the cars? Thank you Matthew Hurst
On Jul 23, 2021, at 10:44 AM, gtws00 via groups.io <gtws00@...> wrote:
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