On Aug 1, 2021, at 10:46 AM, WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> wrote:



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Does anyone have a clear photo or drawing of the Flying A logo on the end of the tank in this photo?  I am in particular looking for the lettering below the FLYINBG A.

Thaks for any help:

Bill Pardie

On 08/01/2021 11:46 AM WILLIAM PARDIE <pardiew001@...> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Does anyone have a clear photo or drawing of the Flying A logo on the end of the tank in this photo?  I am in particular looking for the lettering below the FLYINBG A.

 

Thaks for any help:

 

Bill Pardie

 

Hello Tim,

 

many thanks for the nice photo! This car clearly does not have steam heat lines - so I don't have to add them, fortunately. (But of course it wouldn't be a problem either.)

 

Al Brown wrote:

 

"The cars ... were equipped with Westinghouse AB-schedule 4-12 air brakes, as well as steam and air-signal pipes"

"[U]nlike the cars that were built in following years, [URTX 89000-89024] had independent dual AB-schedule air brake systems acting on individual trucks"

 

Does the designation "AB-schedule 4-12 air brakes" stand for a special type of cylinder and maybe would give hints about the arrangement of levers and rods?

Years ago I have seen an upgraded OMI brass model which has been rebuilt to a dual-AB arrangement at the floor - not the trucks. Is this what your second citation should be understood?

 

Thanks again and greetings

 

Johannes

Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1954

 

Gesendet: Montag, 26. Juli 2021 um 16:16 Uhr
Von: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@...>
An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] URTX/Milwaukee Road Reefer General Arrangement Drawings

Another reference article is Model Railroading, May 1991, pp.22-26

Tim O'Connor

On 7/26/2021 12:18 AM, Scott wrote:

Group,

Does anybody if there are General Arrangement drawings available for the Milwaukee Road 50ft Reefer in the photo?  According to Steam era freight car manual it was built by General American in 1938 because of the single locking bar on the door.  There is also a nice side view of this car in the book. Does anybody know if there is a survivor car hidden away in a museum somewhere?  I am particularly interested in roof details.   It appears to only have one ice hatch on each end which seems odd.  Photo is a duplicate slide, unknown photographer, my collection.

Thanks,
Scott McDonald

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On Jul 30, 2021, at 9:51 PM, Dennis Storzek <dennis@...> wrote:

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 06:14 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

I have only seen photos of these reefers in freight trains. My notes indicate they were heavily insulated,
perhaps for frozen food products? I agree they are very similar to the Pfaudler cars.

Yeah, I was thinking that they didn't look like they ever had steam lines, nor buffers, but that separate plate across the bottom of the end could have been a patch, so lack of buffers was inconclusive.

Now that I think of it, I wonder how much insulation the Pfaudler milk cars had. General American may have found it easier to adapt this body style to extra insulation as opposed to the standard reefer construction.

Dennis Storzek

On Jul 30, 2021, at 6:51 PM, Dennis Storzek <dennis@...> wrote:

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 06:14 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

I have only seen photos of these reefers in freight trains. My notes indicate they were heavily insulated,
perhaps for frozen food products? I agree they are very similar to the Pfaudler cars.

Yeah, I was thinking that they didn't look like they ever had steam lines, nor buffers, but that separate plate across the bottom of the end could have been a patch, so lack of buffers was inconclusive.

Now that I think of it, I wonder how much insulation the Pfaudler milk cars had. General American may have found it easier to adapt this body style to extra insulation as opposed to the standard reefer construction.

Dennis Storzek