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Re: Covid
The CDC says a positive antigen test is indication of a current, active, infection. So I’ll be staying home for a while.
Thanks!
From: BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...>
Out of an abundance of caution, I must disclose that starting last Sunday, I began having symptoms: dry cough, sneezing, sore throat. I started self quarantine Monday. According to what I see online, these are indications I may have picked up a COVID reinfection (I was fully vaccinated last May).
My antigen test results were positive, but this may be a reflection of having had the vaccine, not a new infection. I am going to try and get the viral test for a new infection.
CDC: None of the authorized and recommended COVID-19 vaccines cause you to test positive on viral tests, which are used to see if you have a current infection. If your body develops an immune response to vaccination, which is the goal, you may test positive on some antibody tests. Antibody tests indicate you had a previous infection and that you may have some level of protection against the virus.
So far, my symptoms have bee mild, as noted above. Temperature this morning was 96ºF.
So, if you shook hands with me, etc., at the St Louis RPM, please keep an eye out for any symptoms you may exhibit, and take appropriate steps. I am self quarantining and wearing a mask when I have to go out.
Thanks!
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Covid
Out of an abundance of caution, I must disclose that starting last Sunday, I began having symptoms: dry cough, sneezing, sore throat. I started self quarantine Monday. According to what I see online, these are indications I may have picked up a COVID reinfection (I was fully vaccinated last May).
My antigen test results were positive, but this may be a reflection of having had the vaccine, not a new infection. I am going to try and get the viral test for a new infection.
CDC: None of the authorized and recommended COVID-19 vaccines cause you to test positive on viral tests, which are used to see if you have a current infection. If your body develops an immune response to vaccination, which is the goal, you may test positive on some antibody tests. Antibody tests indicate you had a previous infection and that you may have some level of protection against the virus.
So far, my symptoms have bee mild, as noted above. Temperature this morning was 96ºF.
So, if you shook hands with me, etc., at the St Louis RPM, please keep an eye out for any symptoms you may exhibit, and take appropriate steps. I am self quarantining and wearing a mask when I have to go out.
Thanks!
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Equipco Brake Wheels
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
To add to what Ben said:
PRR was very fond of Equipco brakes for their X31A “round roof: box cars as here:
I think Rapido will get this right on their upcoming X31A’s. 67xxx series, thru early 68xxx series, plus later, late 77xxx series.
There were a few G24 and G26 gons so equipped.
Additionally, Equipco’s were also found on some X31D, X32B, and X32D, plus some X37, X37A and X38 box cars.
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 8:45 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Equipco Brake Wheels
George Courtney wrote: "I've got 5, late steam era Equipco Brake Wheels. Does anyone know what freight cars they could be found on for a 1953 model railroad. Just need 5 names if possible. These brakewheels are round circles and not the (notched?) early Equipco brakewheels to the best of my knowledge."
This should get you started.
Ben Hom
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Re: Car Cement on Roofs
Nelson Moyer
Just what I didn't wanted to hear - another unknown variable!
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Has anyone modeled the texture of car content, or is it too fine to show up in HO scale? Nelson Moyer
-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Thompson Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:45 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Car Cement on Roofs It’s useful to remember that car cement didn’t just come in black (its original color). By WW II, it was also available in BCR. Tony Thompson tony@... On Aug 2, 2021, at 1:11 PM, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:
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Re: URTX/Milwaukee Road Reefer General Arrangement Drawings
Dennis Storzek
On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 03:53 PM, Jack Mullen wrote:
Dennis, I agree that there seems to be a shared design here, but perhaps the lineage runs the other way. If my memory serves, all of the steel 50' Pfaudler cars were built postwar. The reefer in question and the similar (phase 2?) near copies built a couple years later were prewar, 1930-40 I think.Jack, Something piqued my memory, but I can't find a citation, that there was a prewar batch of steel bodied Pfaudler cars, IIRC 40' cars, that had the same roof and formed steel side plate, but a more conventional underframe with structural steel side sills, to which the side sheets were riveted in the same fashion as the X29 and ARA variant. I suspect the use of the same pressing for a side sill of the high insulated reefers saved a lot of weight, partially making up for the increased weight of the deeper car posts, and also made their attachment easier. Dennis Storzek
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Re: OIL DISTRIBUTOR LOGO
Scott H. Haycock
I'm wondering if that text on the bottom of the sign my have been specific to that facility. Was that a company-owned site, or owned by a separate concern?
Scott Haycock
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Re: OIL DISTRIBUTOR LOGO
Charlie Vlk
To address the question as written, I did a number of online searches and could not find any photo of a bulk tank at a local dealer that would indicate what would typically under the logo, much less a Flying A operation.
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Plenty of photos of the logo and some associated slogans but nothing that answers the question asked. Charlie Vlk
On Aug 3, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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Re: Car Cement on Roofs
Tony Thompson
It’s useful to remember that car cement didn’t just come in black (its original color). By WW II, it was also available in BCR.
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On Aug 2, 2021, at 1:11 PM, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:
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Re: Car Cement on Roofs
Dennis Storzek
On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 10:49 AM, Rich C wrote:
I know from what I have seen, the Santa Fe did not paint their running boards and laterals, at least on the steel ones.IIRC from an article on Santa Fe cabooses, wood running boards were pre-painted freight car color before being applied over car cement roofs. Dennis Storzek
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Re: OIL DISTRIBUTOR LOGO
Ah but WHICH tidewater version?? :-D Tim O'Connor
On 8/3/2021 12:43 PM, hubert mask wrote:
I offer the tidewater version of the flying A tank car. --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: OIL DISTRIBUTOR LOGO
hubert mask
I offer the tidewater version of the flying A tank car.
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Hubert Mask
Maskislanddecals.com
On Aug 3, 2021, at 10:12 AM, Ray Hutchison <rayhutchison2@...> wrote:
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Re: OIL DISTRIBUTOR LOGO
On 8/1/2021 3:42 PM, Doug Paasch wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: OIL DISTRIBUTOR LOGO
Ray Hutchison
Tony Thompson has a page devoted to the Associated Flying A Oil Company at his Modeling the SP website: http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2013/12/associated-oil-company-background.html  If you google "Associated Flying A Oil Company logo" you will come up with dozens of examples... although I'm not certain any one of these matches the oil tanks in the original post
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Re: Car Cement on Roofs
Rich C
Your welcome, Nelson. I will check my early RPC's as they give a little more detail on roof , running board and lateral colors. Rich
On Monday, August 2, 2021, 03:03:49 PM CDT, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:
Thanks, Rich. I have two ATSF steel cars in the stash, so I made a note not to paint the running boards and latitudinals.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Rich C via groups.io
I know from what I have seen, the Santa Fe did not paint their running boards and laterals, at least on the steel ones.
Rich Christie
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Re: Car Cement on Roofs
Nelson Moyer
Thanks, Elden. I try to get color pictures for all of the cars I build, but that’s hasn’t always been possible. I’ve pretty much filled in all of the PRR cars I can use by buying RTR, but whether or not they’re accurate is another issue. I confess to not holding plastic to the higher standard I have for resin.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 12:43 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io; RealSTMFC@groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Car Cement on Roofs
Nelson;
Speaking from experience with PRR, it was all over the place in their case.
The P&L instructions were confusing: some paint shops did it differently from the “everybody” instructions. Some groups got asphaltum over galavanized; some only paint. Some got asphaltum on galvanized, then a coat of paint (which quickly peeled off). I think offering them options: paint on galvanized vs asphaltum on non-galvanized; how did paint guys know what was, or what was not?
That’s why I go from pics!
Elden Gatwood
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Re: Car Cement on Roofs
Nelson Moyer
Thanks, Rich. I have two ATSF steel cars in the stash, so I made a note not to paint the running boards and latitudinals.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Rich C via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 12:49 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Car Cement on Roofs
I know from what I have seen, the Santa Fe did not paint their running boards and laterals, at least on the steel ones.
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Re: Car Cement on Roofs
Rich C
I know from what I have seen, the Santa Fe did not paint their running boards and laterals, at least on the steel ones. Rich Christie
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Re: Car Cement on Roofs
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Nelson;
Speaking from experience with PRR, it was all over the place in their case.
The P&L instructions were confusing: some paint shops did it differently from the “everybody” instructions. Some groups got asphaltum over galavanized; some only paint. Some got asphaltum on galvanized, then a coat of paint (which quickly peeled off). I think offering them options: paint on galvanized vs asphaltum on non-galvanized; how did paint guys know what was, or what was not?
That’s why I go from pics!
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Nelson Moyer
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 8:15 PM To: RealSTMFC@groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Car Cement on Roofs
I have several questions about use of car cement on freight car roofs. Was it applied directly to galvanized roofs or were roofs painted before application of car cement? Were running boards and latitudinals unpainted, painted, or covered with car cement? Are there railroad specific variations on the theme?
The car under construction is a WAB 88200 series boxcar. Ed Hawkins posted the paint specs., but they are silent about running boards, and I don’t know anything about the Wabash.
Nelson Moyer
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Re: Car Cement on Roofs
Nelson Moyer
Thanks, Ed. I’ll paint the running boards and latitudinals black along with the roof. That simplifies construction and painting.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Ed Hawkins
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 10:53 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Car Cement on Roofs
Nelson, As a general rule, the car cement was applied directly to the galvanized roof sheets & seam caps after they had been cleaned so they were free of rust, dirt, and grease.
It was relatively uncommon for the builder’s paint specs to state one way or another if the running boards were to be painted. If the paint specs did provide any specific instructions, it was because the railroad wanted them a certain way.
Photos of new Wabash 88200-88699 box cars show the running boards had a dark color on the latitudinals and near the ends, so my hunch is that they received black car cement on them at the same time the roof received the car cement. It takes a higher-angle photo than I have to confirm for sure what the entire running board looks like.
Hope this helps. Ed Hawkins
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Re: OIL DISTRIBUTOR LOGO
Tony,
I'd sure like a copy too please. George A wee bit north of the Clearwater Car Shops
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