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Re: Photo: Leveling The Grain:

Thomas Klosterman
 

How would this guy get out of the car when he was done?
Tom Klosterman


Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Canisters In Gondolas

Bruce Smith
 

Tim, Folks,

How would reweighs have been handled? Was the car not reweighed because the containers were?

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL



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Yes -- 1937 was when it was rebuilt for cement service.



On 8/14/2021 9:51 PM, Bruce Smith wrote:
Brian, Folks,

I cannot make out the reweigh date. It looks like it might be 12-37?  The car is listed in the 1943 ORER as a Contaitner car, without any special notes on the series.

Regards,
Bruce Smith


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Lackawanna 45000-45999

Chuck Cover
 

Looks great Clark as do all of your models.  I agree completely about photos.  I try to always take a photo of my models and more often than not, I see something to change, but for some reason those things don’t show up with just in-person viewing.

 

Take care.

 

Chuck

 

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Lackawanna 45000-45999

 

The great thing about posting photos on the internet is you get extra eyes on the subject. Eagle eye Chuck Cover caught the fact that the brake cylinder was in the wrong side of the center sill. Thanks Chuck! With the help of acetone and a Tichy brake cylinder pad  I hope it's good this time?
Clark 


Re: Lackawanna 45000-45999

Clark Propst
 

Thanks for showing the K4 decals Fenton. One set is too old and the other is too new....Missing the fat short Lackawanna  for above the slogan.
Clark


Re: Lackawanna 45000-45999

Clark Propst
 

The great thing about posting photos on the internet is you get extra eyes on the subject. Eagle eye Chuck Cover caught the fact that the brake cylinder was in the wrong side of the center sill. Thanks Chuck! With the help of acetone and a Tichy brake cylinder pad  I hope it's good this time?
Clark 


Re: Photo: Leveling The Grain:

Tim O'Connor
 


Bingo!  ( I agree with you. )  :-)

I watched a truck filling with cement from a railcar once. The driver put a stick
in the ground below the belly of the trailer. He said when the belly reaches the stick,
he has reached his load limit.

Tim O'Connor



On 8/14/2021 10:29 PM, Douglas Harding wrote:
My guess is the load was leveled to see if the load limit of the car had
been reached. Boxcars intended for grain loading had lines painted on the
inside of the car lining indicating the max limit for different kinds of
grain. Attached is a photo showing four different lines for four different
kinds of grain.

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org


Attachments:
Grain lines boxcar interior.jpg: https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/attachment/186580/0


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Canisters In Gondolas

Tim O'Connor
 


Yes -- 1937 was when it was rebuilt for cement service.



On 8/14/2021 9:51 PM, Bruce Smith wrote:
Brian, Folks,

I cannot make out the reweigh date. It looks like it might be 12-37?  The car is listed in the 1943 ORER as a Contaitner car, without any special notes on the series.

Regards,
Bruce Smith


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Canisters In Gondolas

RICH CHAPIN
 

I can't say "typically" but during WW2 they were used to move kerosene. Early in the war when the u-boats were severely affecting coastal tanker traffic. Attached from Library of Congress. LV 27248 with canisters. Caption below

This is caption for LOC photo posted at http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/fsa.8b09942 

 

"Formerly used to moved cement, this container car is the first of one hundred to go into service as a petroleum carrier. All of the hundred cars are expected to be moving kerosene from Destrehan, Louisiana, to Chelsea, Massachusetts, by mid-April, according to the Office of Defense Transportation"


Re: Lackawanna 45000-45999

O Fenton Wells
 

K4

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On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 2:27 PM Clark Propst via groups.io <cepropst=q.com@groups.io> wrote:
CDS and Prime Mover decals offers the best artwork for these, using vintage typefaces.
.....Mike Del Vecchio

Thanks Mike and Tim. Mike I went to the Prime Mover site, I didn't see any listings for any DLW box cars. Just cabooses and passenger cars. Was I looking in the wrong place?
Clark Propst 



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Re: Lackawanna 45000-45999

Paul Doggett
 

Clark 

It’s looking good hopefully the decals are ok.
Paul Doggett.   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 15 Aug 2021, at 15:59, Clark Propst via groups.io <cepropst@...> wrote:

Finished the DLW box car this morning. It's been washed and is drying on the patio table. Once painted they'll be a drumroll to see if the decals are still useable? I've attached three photos. Not as good as some can do, but the best I could do at the time. Something to keep in mind  ;  ))
Clark Propst

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Re: Lackawanna 45000-45999

Clark Propst
 

Finished the DLW box car this morning. It's been washed and is drying on the patio table. Once painted they'll be a drumroll to see if the decals are still useable? I've attached three photos. Not as good as some can do, but the best I could do at the time. Something to keep in mind  ;  ))
Clark Propst


Re: Photo: Leveling The Grain:

Ray Hutchison
 

fun work on  95 degree day on the prairie...


Re: Canisters In Gondolas

John Mateyko
 

Canisters in petroleum service could have carried grease, certain acids and wax.   John Mateyko


Central Ohio RPM is happening Sept 23-25

bn2204
 

Folks, the 2021 Central Ohio RPM is BEING held September 23-25 at Marion Union Station, Marion, Ohio.   Our meet features the usual RPM content, plus much more.  First off, we 3 double track mainlines that cross right at the depot.  Second, we have the depot itself, a true gem of a place with plenty of historic exhibits inside the building.  Third, we have AC Tower open for showing on the grounds as well.  There is also an EL caboose and the Marion Model Railroad Club is there as well.  
 
Doors open around noon on Thursday for set up.  Once that is done there will plenty of opportunity for fanning in the area. Around 5 or so we will adjourn to a local eatery for a group dinner.  This is always a very enjoyable time.  After dinner there will be a slide/movie show at the depot.
 
The meet opens at 8am on Friday.  The first hour is for setup for those just arriving.  At 9 am things kick off with clinics, fellowship, friendship and shooting the bull.  We will strive to have 4 or 5 clinics each day.   Around 5 pm we will call it a day and head for dinner.  There are many options around town. After dinner, around 630 or so, we will meet back at the depot for another round of slide/movies. 
 
Saturday, doors open at 8am.  Again, the show begins at 9am.  Lunch will be around noon.  At 3 pm we will hold our raffle for door prizes.  You must be present to win, no exceptions.
 
After the door prizes we will start tearing down and cleaning up.  Once that is done we have a meet closing, extra fare cookout.  For many this is a high point of the meet.  The cost is only $6.00 for the cookout.  It's a bargain.
 
Cost for the meet is only $20.00 for the weekend.  There is no daily rate.  We will have a few small vendors there as well.  Lodging is plentiful at US23 and  RTE 95, east of town.  Those who present a clinic also attend the meet for free.  There is no pre registration.
 
So, bring models, bring friends and bring clinics to present.  We will be glad to have you there.  
 
Again, CORPM, Sept 23-25, 2021, $20.00, doors open 8am Friday and Saturday.  See you there. 
 
Message me or email me, seaboard_1966@... if you have any questions.
 
Please copy and paste this to other groups that you belong to.  Help us spread the work on a truly wonderful meet. 
 
Thanks
Denis Blake


Re: Photo: Leveling The Grain:

earlyrail
 

Level the grain to see how deep it is.  Then you can calculate weight (roughly)
'That is what the markings on the inside are for.
You want to make sure you load as much grain as possible without overloading.
Each grain has a different height marked.

Howard Garner


Re: Rock Island decals

Steve and Barb Hile
 

As I recall, Al Westerfield, at one time, intended to extend the Rock Island cars to include both the Murphy ended and the Dreadnaught ended cars in the lineup.  They are discussed in the documentation, but he never got around to doing them.

 

Rocket Express has also expressed interest, so they might be the one to two the kit or kits.

 

As a point of interest:  The 133xxx series was divided between two builders, ACF and Bettendorf and there was a small difference in the way that the roofs met the ends.  I think that I posted a comparison years ago and it is attached here, in case.

 

Steve Hile

 

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I suspect that means as soon as I finish my kitbash, Westerfield will bring out a kit for the car.

Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, OR

 

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The decals in Westerfield kit #6401 *do* include digits for car numbers in the 133XXX series: in fact, number 133804 is included right like that.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: Photo: Leveling The Grain:

Douglas Harding
 

My guess is the load was leveled to see if the load limit of the car had
been reached. Boxcars intended for grain loading had lines painted on the
inside of the car lining indicating the max limit for different kinds of
grain. Attached is a photo showing four different lines for four different
kinds of grain.

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Leveling The Grain:

Could this have possibly mattered? After an hour over jointed rail on
branch line track all would have worked itself out.

Sent from my tricorder


Re: Rock Island decals

Rich C
 

Rocket Express is already in the process of bringing out that kit.





Rich Christie

On Saturday, August 14, 2021, 07:39:48 PM CDT, Richard Townsend via groups.io <richtownsend@...> wrote:


I suspect that means as soon as I finish my kitbash, Westerfield will bring out a kit for the car.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: al_brown03 <abrown@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Aug 14, 2021 4:23 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rock Island decals

The decals in Westerfield kit #6401 *do* include digits for car numbers in the 133XXX series: in fact, number 133804 is included right like that.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: Photo: Leveling The Grain:

David Soderblom
 

Could this have possibly mattered? After an hour over jointed rail on branch line track all would have worked itself out.

Sent from my tricorder


Re: Canisters In Gondolas

Bruce Smith
 

Brian, Folks,

I cannot make out the reweigh date. It looks like it might be 12-37?  The car is listed in the 1943 ORER as a Contaitner car, without any special notes on the series.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


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Here's a better view of the photo http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/nyc-501216.jpg on Terry Link's site. The stenciling on the canister's does indicate petroleum products. The ORER for the timeframe MIGHT tell you what they were modified for. Although I wouldn't be surprised is this mod was noted in Railway Age of the time. 
Brian Carlson
On Saturday, August 14, 2021, 08:16:37 PM EDT, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Canisters In Gondolas

I understand that canisters were used for cement and possibly other powdered products.

Here is a photo (sorry, poor quality) of canisters in a gondola that indicate the contents are a petroleum product.

Does anyone know what petroleum products typically were shipped in canisters?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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