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Re: KEWANEE BOILER SHiPPING PLACARD

Tim
 

I made a folder. Unfortunately I didn’t have a ton of time in there to really look through all the information they have. Nice thing is I have family that just moved out to Kawanee so if anyone wants more information I can go and visit. 

Tim Alund 


On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:43 PM, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:



Since several of us have purchased the RCW Kewanee boiler flat car load, we would all appreciate it if you would upload the photos to a folder in the photo section of the group.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2021 3:37 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] KEWANEE BOILER SHiPPING PLACARD

 

To the gentleman that started this thread. I just visited the Kewanee Historical Society and I took some pictures of their builder plates and other items. Please contact me off list or anyone if your interested in these pictures. 

 

Tim Alund 



On Aug 10, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:

I've been searching in vain for a placard online, but nothing turns up, so I've been dickering around with the image from the photograph, and came up with this miserable example.  I'm certain that someone with more talent (and available fonts) than Yours Truly might be able to come up with something better and, if I had to guess at the fine print on the sign, I would guess it was "Kewanee Boiler Corp.  Kewanee, Illinois."
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA

<Kewanee Boiler.jpg>
Added album Kewanee Boiler Builder Plates #photo-notice

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Tim <Atoolman2@...> added the album Kewanee Boiler Builder Plates : Taken from the Kewanee Historical Society
Re: KEWANEE BOILER SHiPPING PLACARD

Nelson Moyer
 

Since several of us have purchased the RCW Kewanee boiler flat car load, we would all appreciate it if you would upload the photos to a folder in the photo section of the group.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2021 3:37 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] KEWANEE BOILER SHiPPING PLACARD

 

To the gentleman that started this thread. I just visited the Kewanee Historical Society and I took some pictures of their builder plates and other items. Please contact me off list or anyone if your interested in these pictures. 

 

Tim Alund 



On Aug 10, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:

I've been searching in vain for a placard online, but nothing turns up, so I've been dickering around with the image from the photograph, and came up with this miserable example.  I'm certain that someone with more talent (and available fonts) than Yours Truly might be able to come up with something better and, if I had to guess at the fine print on the sign, I would guess it was "Kewanee Boiler Corp.  Kewanee, Illinois."
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA

<Kewanee Boiler.jpg>
Re: KEWANEE BOILER SHiPPING PLACARD

Tim
 

To the gentleman that started this thread. I just visited the Kewanee Historical Society and I took some pictures of their builder plates and other items. Please contact me off list or anyone if your interested in these pictures. 

Tim Alund 


On Aug 10, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:

I've been searching in vain for a placard online, but nothing turns up, so I've been dickering around with the image from the photograph, and came up with this miserable example.  I'm certain that someone with more talent (and available fonts) than Yours Truly might be able to come up with something better and, if I had to guess at the fine print on the sign, I would guess it was "Kewanee Boiler Corp.  Kewanee, Illinois."
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA
<Kewanee Boiler.jpg>
Re: Freight Cars in B&M Terminal Near MTA Science Park Station Boston, MA August 25, 1955

ROGER HINMAN
 

I vote for pushed as a figure can be seen in the vestibule closest to the bridge and may be controlling the brake for the inbound move. The number of Pullmans in this draft exceeds the number assigned to any period scheduled train so I presume its a summer camp special or a troop movement. With all those shots of Atlantic avenue in this photo collection, Swift, Armour and Wilson were seen with facilties; Rath and Morrell seem to make do with using one of the freight house platforms.?


Roger Hinman

On Aug 21, 2021, at 10:20 AM, akerboomk <ken-akerboom@...> wrote:

Responding a bit late to this thread...on a non-freight car topic (oops!)
I would suggest the train of passenger & Pullman cars is being pulled from (or possibly pushed into) North Station - it looks to be on one of the drawbridge tracks, which were not "storage" tracks ;-).  The Pullman storage tracks (IIUC) were off to the left of this photo

The passenger cars behind that train are commuter cars in storage
--
Ken Akerboom

Re: A few period boxcar roofs 1948 St Louis

Charlie Duckworth
 

Someone told me that the TRRA used an old wooden coach to move employees around St Louis that I assume were difficult to access by car. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.
Re: A few period boxcar roofs 1948 St Louis

Jack Mullen
 

On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 11:53 AM, Kenneth Montero wrote:
Is it a car for transporting prisoners?
No, just an old wooden coach that had migrated into non-revenue service.  Boarded up either to protect windows from being broken or because they already have been.  The war years saw a lot of old equipment that had been stored during the depression pulled back into service.

Fwiw, it appears that the near end is jacked up for wheel change or other truck repair.

Jack Mullen
Re: A few period boxcar roofs 1948 St Louis

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

Looks to be a wood car with boards nailed over the windows. Prison cars wouldn’t be wooden. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Aug 21, 2021, at 1:53 PM, Kenneth Montero <va661midlo@...> wrote:


In the "gondola" picture, hHas asnyone commented on the open platform coach with so many bars across the windows as to cut out most of the viewing from those windows? Is it a car for transporting prisoners?

Ken Montero
On 08/21/2021 1:30 PM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:


I had a private request for the Library of Congress links to the Jack Delano photos. Here are three that have influenced my model weathering.

When you download, choose the largest TIF file. I makes it easier to zoom in on the details.

RIP track area with gondola interiors. This was used on the cover of a Prototype Railroad Modeling volume.
https://www.loc.gov/item/2017878043/

Boxcars lined up at the Galewood freight house.
https://www.loc.gov/item/2017878185/

More boxcars at the Galewood freight house. This is one of my all time favorite weathering reference photos.
https://www.loc.gov/item/2017878186/

Don't be afraid to pull one of these into an image editor to lighten the levels. A little Photoshoppery brings out a few things you missed.

These Delano photos and the images Charlie shared are great freight car weathering inspiration.

Enjoy!


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN





On 08/21/2021 10:09 AM Jim Betz <jimbetz@...> wrote:


Charlie,
  Thanks for posting these pictures.  Someone else has already mentioned "the
roof walks and their condition" ... I will add to that the prediction that if I or anyone
on this list were to "do up a collection of box cars that had the look of the
pictures you posted" ... that our fellow modelers would be highly likely to 
comment that "your cars look great - but I think you have overdone it a bit on
the roofwalks and amount of weathering for the yard as a whole".  They would
be telling us that we need to dial back the roofs - and they'd be wrong.  Not
"totally wrong/off base" - they are giving their honest opinion - but the evidence
that it was like these pictures show is often "over looked". 
  Perhaps we just don't have enough color pictures of freight car roofs ... ?

                                                              Thanks again for the great post ... Jim

P.S. Now to figure out how to add some of this stuff to my personal freight car
       fleet!
 


Re: A few period boxcar roofs 1948 St Louis

Kenneth Montero
 

In the "gondola" picture, hHas asnyone commented on the open platform coach with so many bars across the windows as to cut out most of the viewing from those windows? Is it a car for transporting prisoners?

Ken Montero

On 08/21/2021 1:30 PM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:


I had a private request for the Library of Congress links to the Jack Delano photos. Here are three that have influenced my model weathering.

When you download, choose the largest TIF file. I makes it easier to zoom in on the details.

RIP track area with gondola interiors. This was used on the cover of a Prototype Railroad Modeling volume.
https://www.loc.gov/item/2017878043/

Boxcars lined up at the Galewood freight house.
https://www.loc.gov/item/2017878185/

More boxcars at the Galewood freight house. This is one of my all time favorite weathering reference photos.
https://www.loc.gov/item/2017878186/

Don't be afraid to pull one of these into an image editor to lighten the levels. A little Photoshoppery brings out a few things you missed.

These Delano photos and the images Charlie shared are great freight car weathering inspiration.

Enjoy!


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN





On 08/21/2021 10:09 AM Jim Betz <jimbetz@...> wrote:


Charlie,
  Thanks for posting these pictures.  Someone else has already mentioned "the
roof walks and their condition" ... I will add to that the prediction that if I or anyone
on this list were to "do up a collection of box cars that had the look of the
pictures you posted" ... that our fellow modelers would be highly likely to 
comment that "your cars look great - but I think you have overdone it a bit on
the roofwalks and amount of weathering for the yard as a whole".  They would
be telling us that we need to dial back the roofs - and they'd be wrong.  Not
"totally wrong/off base" - they are giving their honest opinion - but the evidence
that it was like these pictures show is often "over looked". 
  Perhaps we just don't have enough color pictures of freight car roofs ... ?

                                                              Thanks again for the great post ... Jim

P.S. Now to figure out how to add some of this stuff to my personal freight car
       fleet!
 


St. Louis Refrigerator Car Company Refrigerator 10084

Lester Breuer
 

 

I have upgraded an Accurail St. Louis Refrigerator Car Company Refrigerator, numbered 10084.  My build included adding reinforcing steel angle to ends, milled running board, new “B” end details, wire grabs and ladder rungs, etc. And, correct lettering and paint matches for factory paint.  If you are interested, photos and write up are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.  If would like to take a look please do at the following link:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

 

Lester Breuer

 
Re: A few period boxcar roofs 1948 St Louis

Tony Thompson
 

... that our fellow modelers would be highly likely to
comment that "your cars look great - but I think you have overdone it a bit on
the roofwalks and amount of weathering for the yard as a whole”.'
Some of our fellow modelers might even comment on the state of our running boards. <g>

Tony Thompson
tony@signaturepress.com
Re: A few period boxcar roofs 1948 St Louis

Eric Hansmann
 

Charlie,

That looks very cool!

I also noticed a newer looking handbrake wheel in one of your images. It was on the end of a PRR X31 boxcar. It definitely has a different shade than the rest of the car end.



Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN


On 08/21/2021 10:13 AM Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:


A couple things stood out; the different colors of aged wood boards on the car next to the PRR round roof X31 and the way the X31 roof had weathered. Plus the gray color of where the paint has come off on the galvanized roof.  I’ve put a slight wave in the roof on the A-50-4 I’m finishing up - off to the paint booth shortly  
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: A few period boxcar roofs 1948 St Louis

Eric Hansmann
 

I had a private request for the Library of Congress links to the Jack Delano photos. Here are three that have influenced my model weathering.

When you download, choose the largest TIF file. I makes it easier to zoom in on the details.

RIP track area with gondola interiors. This was used on the cover of a Prototype Railroad Modeling volume.
https://www.loc.gov/item/2017878043/

Boxcars lined up at the Galewood freight house.
https://www.loc.gov/item/2017878185/

More boxcars at the Galewood freight house. This is one of my all time favorite weathering reference photos.
https://www.loc.gov/item/2017878186/

Don't be afraid to pull one of these into an image editor to lighten the levels. A little Photoshoppery brings out a few things you missed.

These Delano photos and the images Charlie shared are great freight car weathering inspiration.

Enjoy!


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN





On 08/21/2021 10:09 AM Jim Betz <jimbetz@...> wrote:


Charlie,
  Thanks for posting these pictures.  Someone else has already mentioned "the
roof walks and their condition" ... I will add to that the prediction that if I or anyone
on this list were to "do up a collection of box cars that had the look of the
pictures you posted" ... that our fellow modelers would be highly likely to 
comment that "your cars look great - but I think you have overdone it a bit on
the roofwalks and amount of weathering for the yard as a whole".  They would
be telling us that we need to dial back the roofs - and they'd be wrong.  Not
"totally wrong/off base" - they are giving their honest opinion - but the evidence
that it was like these pictures show is often "over looked". 
  Perhaps we just don't have enough color pictures of freight car roofs ... ?

                                                              Thanks again for the great post ... Jim

P.S. Now to figure out how to add some of this stuff to my personal freight car
       fleet!
 


Re: A few period boxcar roofs 1948 St Louis

Brian Shumaker
 

Jim,
Yes, the cars were filthy little things in the steam era, but let’s not stop there. Just about everything in the immediate vicinity of a rail yard would be covered in soot. Also, look at the ground, bits of trash and debris scattered all over, again, seldom seen on layouts. Railroading was and is a grimy business. I pay attention to color, and it’s amazing that everything from the spikes to the top of the sides of cars has a “rail brown” coating. You should see my clothes after a day of climbing around cars just putting a train together!

Brian
Re: GN boxcar kit reissue

Clark Propst
 

On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 07:15 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
I love that early HAND BRAKE detail ! I hope Frank will release that as a separate item.
I just put something very similar on a flat car. It's a Chad Boas part. Might want to include that photo if you would like to order some?
Clark Propst
Re: A few period boxcar roofs 1948 St Louis

Charlie Duckworth
 

A couple things stood out; the different colors of aged wood boards on the car next to the PRR round roof X31 and the way the X31 roof had weathered. Plus the gray color of where the paint has come off on the galvanized roof.  I’ve put a slight wave in the roof on the A-50-4 I’m finishing up - off to the paint booth shortly  
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.
Re: A few period boxcar roofs 1948 St Louis

Jim Betz
 

Charlie,
  Thanks for posting these pictures.  Someone else has already mentioned "the
roof walks and their condition" ... I will add to that the prediction that if I or anyone
on this list were to "do up a collection of box cars that had the look of the
pictures you posted" ... that our fellow modelers would be highly likely to 
comment that "your cars look great - but I think you have overdone it a bit on
the roofwalks and amount of weathering for the yard as a whole".  They would
be telling us that we need to dial back the roofs - and they'd be wrong.  Not
"totally wrong/off base" - they are giving their honest opinion - but the evidence
that it was like these pictures show is often "over looked". 
  Perhaps we just don't have enough color pictures of freight car roofs ... ?

                                                              Thanks again for the great post ... Jim

P.S. Now to figure out how to add some of this stuff to my personal freight car
       fleet!
 
Re: GN boxcar kit reissue

Eric Hansmann
 

Jim,

We use the blog to announce new Resin Car Works products. Additional details and ordering info is on the website.
http://resincarworks.com/kits.htm

The latest kits are always listed first on that page.

It was great to meet you and talk a bit at the St Louis RPM!


Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


On 08/21/2021 8:21 AM Jim Betz <jimbetz@...> wrote:


Eric,
  Thanks for posting this.  I followed the link and like the car.  I see no way to
order the car from that link.  What am I missing?
                                                                                                 - Jim


Re: A few period boxcar roofs 1948 St Louis

Eric Hansmann
 

Many thanks for sharing these, Charlie!

I am frequently asked why my roof walks are different colors. I share a few links to the Jack Delano images on the LoC site, but that isn't always convincing. These will reinforce the message and also illustrate the variety of metal roof weathering.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN



On 08/21/2021 7:09 AM Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:


Here’s some boxcar roofs that were in some slides of passenger trains shots taken at SLUS.  A few ideas for weathering of the various roofs and the wood running boards.  


--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.
Re: PSPX 15006

Tim O'Connor
 


Many years ago I painted this one (incorrectly) with some of the only decals available at the time
for the prewar era. I sold it some time ago... According to Overland it's a 1936 prototype.

Tim O'Connor


On 8/20/2021 10:38 PM, Bill Keene via groups.io wrote:
On Aug 20, 2021, at 4:58 PM, nyc3001 . <nyc3001@...> wrote:
Probably not; as far as I'm aware, there's no model for the earlier ACF 11k gallon tank cars with seven courses despite the fact that they were present in somewhat significant numbers. 
_._,_._,_

Thank you for adding to my knowledge base. Will keep looking. 

Besides the OMI import which is somewhat difficult to find these days, the only two other models are those from Atlas and BLI.

Cheers,
Bill Keene


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
5961 - 5980 of 192636