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Re: Where does the ‘Empty Return’ Stencils go on n an SP SS boxcar?
Believe this photo shows where. I think it came via Tim O’Connor.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 6:10 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Where does the ‘Empty Return’ Stencils go on n an SP SS boxcar?
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Re: Where does the ‘Empty Return’ Stencils go on n an SP SS boxcar?
hubert mask
I checked Dick Harley’s sp book and didn’t see any examples for that time being.
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On Aug 24, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:
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Re: Where does the ‘Empty Return’ Stencils go on n an SP SS boxcar?
Could be but it’s angled and placards were rectangular. Before computer routing many ‘agent assigned’ cars were stenciled with specific empty return information.
-- Charlie Duckworth Omaha, Ne.
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Re: Cudahy 1501-1600
Thanks Doug Fenton
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 7:02 PM Douglas Harding <iowacentralrr@...> wrote:
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Re: NYC Post-war PS-1 box car paint
Allan Smith
Page 33 of Freight Equipment of the NYC Volume 1 has a photo of 169074 with black roof and ends . photo 10-20-1951 Al Smith Sonora CA
On Tuesday, August 24, 2021, 01:15:13 PM PDT, Todd Sullivan via groups.io <sullivant41@...> wrote:
Tim & others, FWIW, I tend to trust Kadee on their painting and lettering. I looked up NYC 40ft PS-1s on their website, and the 170000 and 180000 series cars, built in 1951 and 1952, respectively, had black ends and roof. Models of earlier PS-1 series were all freight car brown. Let the dissent begin! Todd Sullivan
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Re: Where does the ‘Empty Return’ Stencils go on n an SP SS boxcar?
Eric Hansmann
If it’s on a white background, maybe it’s a placard.
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On Aug 24, 2021, at 6:09 PM, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:
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Where does the ‘Empty Return’ Stencils go on n an SP SS boxcar?
 I’m decaling the Speedwitch SP A-50-4 and plan to use it going to a lumber yard on the layout. The decals have a white backed decals for returning the empty car to Eugene. I’ve looked through several books but can’t find an example on where it goes on the car. One side is angled so I assume it’s against a ‘Z’ brace. -- Charlie Duckworth Omaha, Ne.
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Re: Cudahy 1501-1600
Clover House offers dry transfers in O scale https://cloverhouse.com/Cart/product_info.php?products_id=11981 They had them in HO, but are no longer listed on their website. You might contact Clover House or search eBay.
Don Valentine of NERS commissioned a special run of HO Atlas meat reefers with this scheme back in 2014. I doubt he has any left.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 4:40 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Cudahy 1501-1600
Does anyone make decals for these cars?? Fenton
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 5:29 PM ROGER HINMAN via groups.io <rhinman11=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
-- Fenton Wells Pinehurst NC 28374
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Re: Cudahy 1501-1600
Does anyone make decals for these cars?? Fenton
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Re: Cudahy 1501-1600
The same mistake is in the Billboard Reefer book, but the picture is clearer.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of ROGER HINMAN via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 4:30 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Cudahy 1501-1600
your eyes are better than mine, I just enlarged that build date and it is 1928; a quick check in the earlier ORER confirms
Roger Hinman
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Re: Cudahy 1501-1600
ROGER HINMAN
your eyes are better than mine, I just enlarged that build date and it is 1928; a quick check in the earlier ORER confirms
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Re: Cudahy 1501-1600
As nearly as I can tell the CRLX series 5501 – 5600 was built by GATC in 1928, this photo shows fresh paint in 1935 along with experimental rubber springs in the trucks.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of ROGER HINMAN via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 3:52 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io; FHodina@... Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Cudahy 1501-1600
Actually cars in that series were built by ACF, GA and Cudahy
GA built 100 cars in 1935
Roger Hinman
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Re: Cudahy 1501-1600
ROGER HINMAN
Actually cars in that series were built by ACF, GA and Cudahy
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GA built 100 cars in 1935 Roger Hinman 
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Re: Cudahy 1501-1600
ROGER HINMAN
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Re: NYC Post-war PS-1 box car paint
Todd Sullivan
Tim & others,
FWIW, I tend to trust Kadee on their painting and lettering. I looked up NYC 40ft PS-1s on their website, and the 170000 and 180000 series cars, built in 1951 and 1952, respectively, had black ends and roof. Models of earlier PS-1 series were all freight car brown. Let the dissent begin! Todd Sullivan
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Calling Rich Christie
golden1014
Yo Rich, I lost your e-mail address. Can you give me a shout please at Golden1014@...? Danke! John Golden Ramstein-Miesenbach, Germany
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Re: Current form of Future Floor Wax Suitable for Decal Work
Bryian Sones
Hi Allen, I'm not sure what project you might be wanting to use a spray bottle for but a spray bottle would give you less control of the application. It is just going to go everywhere and spray heavy. Also, it may splatter and run. It is self leveling but you want to apply thin even coats to get the best results. You can use a brush or airbrush. I prefer an Airbrush but sometimes I use a brush for small, quick decal applications. If you want to try the spray bottle, I would recommend you test it on something you don't care about first. The test piece should have the same surface as your project. This way you will know exactly what the results are going to be. Bryian Sones Union Pacific Prototype Modeler Murrieta, CA
On Tuesday, August 24, 2021, 10:45:11 AM PDT, Douglas Harding <iowacentralrr@...> wrote:
Allen it is 100% pure acrylic and is self-leveling. It dries quickly. I use a brush and apply to the areas receiving decals. It can also be airbrushed. I’m not sure a pump bottle spray would be acceptable, but would certainly be worth a try on a scrap body to see what coverage occurs.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Allen Cain
Can this be applied with a pump bottle spray or must it be applied with an airbrush to get a good effect?
-- Allen Cain Chem-Dry of Brentwood Chem-Dry of Franklin Mr. B's Chem-Dry Bluff City Chem-Dry Chem-Dry of De Soto County Divisions of New Horizons Enterprises Inc
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Re: NYC Post-war PS-1 box car paint
Tony I provided two photos - You are correct the Ebay photo shows a repainted car, although I have noticed that many repainted cars did not receive repainted roofs. But the first of the photos showed a brand new NYC PS-1 in 1948. This was the photo that looks very much like a black painted end to me. I've cropped it, and zoomed in, and attached it here. Pullman Standard loved black ends, I don't know why. For example the Southern Pacific had no red box cars with black ends... until they ordered some 50 foot PS-1's! :-D Tim O'Connor
On 8/23/2021 10:21 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
Tim O'Connor wrote: --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Current form of Future Floor Wax Suitable for Decal Work
Allen it is 100% pure acrylic and is self-leveling. It dries quickly. I use a brush and apply to the areas receiving decals. It can also be airbrushed. I’m not sure a pump bottle spray would be acceptable, but would certainly be worth a try on a scrap body to see what coverage occurs.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Allen Cain
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 11:29 AM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Current form of Future Floor Wax Suitable for Decal Work
Can this be applied with a pump bottle spray or must it be applied with an airbrush to get a good effect?
-- Allen Cain Chem-Dry of Brentwood Chem-Dry of Franklin Mr. B's Chem-Dry Bluff City Chem-Dry Chem-Dry of De Soto County Divisions of New Horizons Enterprises Inc
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Re: Current form of Future Floor Wax Suitable for Decal Work
Charlie Vlk
Thanks all….will get a bottle of Pledge floor gloss!! Charlie Vlk
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Adams
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 12:14 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Current form of Future Floor Wax Suitable for Decal Work
I just used the same Pledge product Eric refers to above. https://www.pledge.com/en-us/products/pledge-floor-gloss
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