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Re: Where does the ‘Empty Return’ Stencils go on n an SP SS boxcar?

 

Another example.

 

 

Thanks!
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Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Douglas Harding <iowacentralrr@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 8:04 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Where does the ‘Empty Return’ Stencils go on n an SP SS boxcar?

 

Believe this photo shows where. I think it came via Tim O’Connor.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 6:10 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Where does the ‘Empty Return’ Stencils go on n an SP SS boxcar?

 

I’m decaling the Speedwitch SP A-50-4 and plan to use it going to a lumber yard on the layout.  The decals have a white backed decals for returning the empty car to Eugene.  I’ve looked through several books but can’t find an example on where it goes on the car.  One side is angled so I assume it’s against a ‘Z’ brace. 
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Where does the ‘Empty Return’ Stencils go on n an SP SS boxcar?

Douglas Harding
 

Believe this photo shows where. I think it came via Tim O’Connor.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 6:10 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Where does the ‘Empty Return’ Stencils go on n an SP SS boxcar?

 

I’m decaling the Speedwitch SP A-50-4 and plan to use it going to a lumber yard on the layout.  The decals have a white backed decals for returning the empty car to Eugene.  I’ve looked through several books but can’t find an example on where it goes on the car.  One side is angled so I assume it’s against a ‘Z’ brace. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Where does the ‘Empty Return’ Stencils go on n an SP SS boxcar?

hubert mask
 

I checked Dick Harley’s sp book and didn’t see any examples for that time being.

Hubert 


On Aug 24, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:

Could be but it’s angled and placards were rectangular.  Before computer routing many ‘agent assigned’ cars were stenciled with specific empty return information.  
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Where does the ‘Empty Return’ Stencils go on n an SP SS boxcar?

Charlie Duckworth
 

Could be but it’s angled and placards were rectangular.  Before computer routing many ‘agent assigned’ cars were stenciled with specific empty return information.  
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Cudahy 1501-1600

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Doug
Fenton

On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 7:02 PM Douglas Harding <iowacentralrr@...> wrote:

Clover House offers dry transfers in O scale https://cloverhouse.com/Cart/product_info.php?products_id=11981  They had them in HO, but are no longer listed on their website. You might contact Clover House or search eBay.

 

Don Valentine of NERS commissioned a special run of HO Atlas meat reefers with this scheme back in 2014. I doubt he has any left.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 4:40 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Cudahy 1501-1600

 

Does anyone make decals for these cars??

Fenton

 

On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 5:29 PM ROGER HINMAN via groups.io <rhinman11=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

your eyes are better than mine, I just enlarged that build date and it is 1928; a quick check in the earlier ORER confirms

 

Roger Hinman



On Aug 24, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:

 

s nearly as I can tell the CRLX series 5501 – 5600 was built by GATC in 1928, this photo shows fresh paint in 1935 along with experimental rubber springs in the trucks.

 

Steve Hile

 

 


 

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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: NYC Post-war PS-1 box car paint

Allan Smith
 

Page 33 of Freight Equipment of the NYC Volume 1 has a photo of 169074 with black roof and ends . photo 10-20-1951

Al Smith
Sonora CA

On Tuesday, August 24, 2021, 01:15:13 PM PDT, Todd Sullivan via groups.io <sullivant41@...> wrote:


Tim & others,

FWIW, I tend to trust Kadee on their painting and lettering.  I looked up NYC 40ft PS-1s on their website, and the 170000 and 180000 series cars, built in 1951 and 1952, respectively, had black ends and roof.  Models of earlier PS-1 series were all freight car brown.

Let the dissent begin!

Todd Sullivan


Re: Where does the ‘Empty Return’ Stencils go on n an SP SS boxcar?

Eric Hansmann
 

If it’s on a white background, maybe it’s a placard. 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Aug 24, 2021, at 6:09 PM, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:

<4AA808E3-6051-490F-9B99-C8F74CBF03F1.jpeg>I’m decaling the Speedwitch SP A-50-4 and plan to use it going to a lumber yard on the layout.  The decals have a white backed decals for returning the empty car to Eugene.  I’ve looked through several books but can’t find an example on where it goes on the car.  One side is angled so I assume it’s against a ‘Z’ brace. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Where does the ‘Empty Return’ Stencils go on n an SP SS boxcar?

Charlie Duckworth
 

I’m decaling the Speedwitch SP A-50-4 and plan to use it going to a lumber yard on the layout.  The decals have a white backed decals for returning the empty car to Eugene.  I’ve looked through several books but can’t find an example on where it goes on the car.  One side is angled so I assume it’s against a ‘Z’ brace. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Cudahy 1501-1600

Douglas Harding
 

Clover House offers dry transfers in O scale https://cloverhouse.com/Cart/product_info.php?products_id=11981  They had them in HO, but are no longer listed on their website. You might contact Clover House or search eBay.

 

Don Valentine of NERS commissioned a special run of HO Atlas meat reefers with this scheme back in 2014. I doubt he has any left.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 4:40 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Cudahy 1501-1600

 

Does anyone make decals for these cars??

Fenton

 

On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 5:29 PM ROGER HINMAN via groups.io <rhinman11=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

your eyes are better than mine, I just enlarged that build date and it is 1928; a quick check in the earlier ORER confirms

 

Roger Hinman



On Aug 24, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:

 

s nearly as I can tell the CRLX series 5501 – 5600 was built by GATC in 1928, this photo shows fresh paint in 1935 along with experimental rubber springs in the trucks.

 

Steve Hile

 

 


 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Cudahy 1501-1600

O Fenton Wells
 

Does anyone make decals for these cars??
Fenton

On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 5:29 PM ROGER HINMAN via groups.io <rhinman11=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
your eyes are better than mine, I just enlarged that build date and it is 1928; a quick check in the earlier ORER confirms

Roger Hinman

On Aug 24, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:

s nearly as I can tell the CRLX series 5501 – 5600 was built by GATC in 1928, this photo shows fresh paint in 1935 along with experimental rubber springs in the trucks.
 
Steve Hile
 



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Cudahy 1501-1600

Steve and Barb Hile
 

The same mistake is in the Billboard Reefer book, but the picture is clearer.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of ROGER HINMAN via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 4:30 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Cudahy 1501-1600

 

your eyes are better than mine, I just enlarged that build date and it is 1928; a quick check in the earlier ORER confirms

 

Roger Hinman



On Aug 24, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:

 

s nearly as I can tell the CRLX series 5501 – 5600 was built by GATC in 1928, this photo shows fresh paint in 1935 along with experimental rubber springs in the trucks.

 

Steve Hile

 

 


Re: Cudahy 1501-1600

ROGER HINMAN
 

your eyes are better than mine, I just enlarged that build date and it is 1928; a quick check in the earlier ORER confirms

Roger Hinman

On Aug 24, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:

s nearly as I can tell the CRLX series 5501 – 5600 was built by GATC in 1928, this photo shows fresh paint in 1935 along with experimental rubber springs in the trucks.
 
Steve Hile
 


Re: Cudahy 1501-1600

Steve and Barb Hile
 

As nearly as I can tell the CRLX series 5501 – 5600 was built by GATC in 1928, this photo shows fresh paint in 1935 along with experimental rubber springs in the trucks.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of ROGER HINMAN via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 3:52 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io; FHodina@...
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Cudahy 1501-1600

 

Actually cars in that series were built by ACF, GA and Cudahy

 

GA built 100 cars in 1935

 

Roger Hinman

 



On Aug 23, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Frank Hodina <FHodina@...> wrote:

 

Cars in the 5501-6250 series were built by ACF. Cudahy did have some cars from GA which were in the 1501-1600 series.

Frank
Resin Car Works

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Re: Cudahy 1501-1600

ROGER HINMAN
 

Actually cars in that series were built by ACF, GA and Cudahy

GA built 100 cars in 1935

Roger Hinman



On Aug 23, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Frank Hodina <FHodina@...> wrote:

Cars in the 5501-6250 series were built by ACF. Cudahy did have some cars from GA which were in the 1501-1600 series.

Frank
Resin Car Works

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Re: Cudahy 1501-1600

ROGER HINMAN
 



On Aug 23, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Frank Hodina <FHodina@...> wrote:

Cars in the 5501-6250 series were built by ACF. Cudahy did have some cars from GA which were in the 1501-1600 series.

Frank
Resin Car Works

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Re: NYC Post-war PS-1 box car paint

Todd Sullivan
 

Tim & others,

FWIW, I tend to trust Kadee on their painting and lettering.  I looked up NYC 40ft PS-1s on their website, and the 170000 and 180000 series cars, built in 1951 and 1952, respectively, had black ends and roof.  Models of earlier PS-1 series were all freight car brown.

Let the dissent begin!

Todd Sullivan


Calling Rich Christie

golden1014
 

Yo Rich, I lost your e-mail address.  Can you give me a shout please at Golden1014@...?

Danke!

John Golden
Ramstein-Miesenbach, Germany


Re: Current form of Future Floor Wax Suitable for Decal Work

Bryian Sones
 

Hi Allen,

I'm not sure what project you might be wanting to use a spray bottle for but a spray bottle would give you less control of the application.
It is just going to go everywhere and spray heavy. Also, it may splatter and run. It is self leveling but you want to apply thin even coats to get the best results. You can use a brush or airbrush. I prefer an Airbrush but sometimes I use a brush for small, quick decal applications. 

If you want to try the spray bottle, I would recommend you test it on something you don't care about first. The test piece should have the same surface as your project. This way you will know exactly what the results are going to be.   

Bryian Sones
Union Pacific Prototype Modeler
Murrieta, CA


On Tuesday, August 24, 2021, 10:45:11 AM PDT, Douglas Harding <iowacentralrr@...> wrote:


Allen it is 100% pure acrylic and is self-leveling. It dries quickly. I use a brush and apply to the areas receiving decals. It can also be airbrushed. I’m not sure a pump bottle spray would be acceptable, but would certainly be worth a try on a scrap body to see what coverage occurs.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Allen Cain
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 11:29 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Current form of Future Floor Wax Suitable for Decal Work

 

Can this be applied with a pump bottle spray or must it be applied with an airbrush to get a good effect?

 

--

Allen Cain

Chem-Dry of Brentwood

Chem-Dry of Franklin

Mr. B's Chem-Dry

Bluff City Chem-Dry

Chem-Dry of De Soto County

Divisions of New Horizons Enterprises Inc


--
Allen Cain
Modeling the Southern in 1955 in HO Scale


Re: NYC Post-war PS-1 box car paint

Tim O'Connor
 

Tony

I provided two photos - You are correct the Ebay photo shows a repainted car, although I have noticed
that many repainted cars did not receive repainted roofs.

But the first of the photos showed a brand new NYC PS-1 in 1948. This was the photo that looks very
much like a black painted end to me. I've cropped it, and zoomed in, and attached it here.

Pullman Standard loved black ends, I don't know why. For example the Southern Pacific had no red
box cars with black ends... until they ordered some 50 foot PS-1's! :-D

Tim O'Connor


On 8/23/2021 10:21 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
Tim O'Connor wrote:

I think both ends and roof were black.


Good photo, Tim, thanks! But this is the mid-1950s lettering, not the 1950 scheme when the car was built, so presumably a repaint. Do we know how they were ORIGINALLY painted?

Tony Thompson


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Current form of Future Floor Wax Suitable for Decal Work

Douglas Harding
 

Allen it is 100% pure acrylic and is self-leveling. It dries quickly. I use a brush and apply to the areas receiving decals. It can also be airbrushed. I’m not sure a pump bottle spray would be acceptable, but would certainly be worth a try on a scrap body to see what coverage occurs.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Allen Cain
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 11:29 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Current form of Future Floor Wax Suitable for Decal Work

 

Can this be applied with a pump bottle spray or must it be applied with an airbrush to get a good effect?

 

--

Allen Cain

Chem-Dry of Brentwood

Chem-Dry of Franklin

Mr. B's Chem-Dry

Bluff City Chem-Dry

Chem-Dry of De Soto County

Divisions of New Horizons Enterprises Inc


--
Allen Cain
Modeling the Southern in 1955 in HO Scale

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