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Re: used to load and unload steam era freight cars...

Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
 

On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 12:40 PM, Philip Dove wrote:
In 1924 it seems incredible they didn't have some gas engine.
Which means someone would have to maintain it. These cranes were most often on public team tracks for the convenience of consignees receiving occasional heavy freight, which means they were used by people who weren't railroad employees, so if it broke, no one could be held responsible. The hand crank hoist was practically indestructible, and self limiting as to overloading. If a consignee was unloading a load every week, that was time to put in a private spur with whatever type of crane he chose.

Dennis Storzek


Gondola NH 56952 in 1932 Boston MA

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Gondola NH 56952 in 1932 Boston MA
 
 
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Re: Sunshine Kits

 

Hello all,

I wanted to second Rick's comments on the Sunshine kits.

I bought some and the $60 kits are built or partially built but missing data sheets and instructions. Unfortunately, one was missing parts.
The builds are definitely very credible and with just a small amount of messaging, paint and decals, they will be layout ready cars.

Dan Smith


PRR 335442 (maybe?), a PRR class GRa composite gon with pipe load, in 1930 Milton MA...

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PRR 335442 (maybe?), a PRR class GRa composite gon with pipe load, in 1930 Milton MA... the track it is on was laid with a guard rail. Also worth noticing is the wheel stops on the stub ended siding nearby. Note that the concept of the parking lot existed even as early as 1930!
 
 
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Re: There is a lot to be seen in this 1929 image taken at Milton MA...

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In the image below, we see this same area photographed from the other side. The hopper car RDG 79841 is featured this time. Note GODFREY COAL CO on the left this time, and we see that it is situated right next to a waterway, making me wonder in the coal company got deliveries via water and not by rail
 
 
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] There is a lot to be seen in this 1929 image taken at Milton MA...

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There is a lot to be seen in this 1929 image taken at Milton MA...
 
* B&M double sheathed boxcar
 
* CN 325095 double sheathed boxcar
 
* PRR 19739 class XL boxcar
 
* PRR class X23 boxcar (above PRR 19739)
 
* Probable PRR class GLa hopper in distance
 
GODFREY COAL CO (on right) appears to be a major industry here
 
 
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Re: used to load and unload steam era freight cars...

 

There is an old Brownhoist pillar crane still standing in Rockport, MA. Reportedly used to load granite slabs onto flat cars.

Jack Dziadul
Sanford, NC


There is a lot to be seen in this 1929 image taken at Milton MA...

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi List Members,
 
There is a lot to be seen in this 1929 image taken at Milton MA...
 
* B&M double sheathed boxcar
 
* CN 325095 double sheathed boxcar
 
* PRR 19739 class XL boxcar
 
* PRR class X23 boxcar (above PRR 19739)
 
* Probable PRR class GLa hopper in distance
 
GODFREY COAL CO (on right) appears to be a major industry here
 
 
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Re: C&NW Decals

O Fenton Wells
 

Great catchJack, forgot about Speedwitch/National Scale Car
Fenton 


On Sep 4, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Scott H. Haycock <shhaycock@...> wrote:


Thanks Jack,
 
That's the set I was looking for! The problem with the other sets is getting that '400' emblem to fit on the Pratt truss members. I should have mentioned HO scale.
 
Thanks to everyone that replied. 

Scott Haycock
Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantm
ent

On 09/04/2021 12:30 PM Jack Mullen <jack.f.mullen@...> wrote:
 
 
Surprised nobody mentioned Speedwitch, assuming Scott wants HO.  They would be the definitive set. I understand they're now available form National Scale Car.
The Microscale set for Fowler boxcars is a decent workaround for roadname, slogan and monogram with a bit of cutting and piecing due to the different framing, but will need appropriate dimensional data. I went that route in O scale some years ago.
AFAIK K4 has not produced any CNW decals. (Yet?)

Jack Mullen


End view of hopper PRR 201390 in 1928

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End view of hopper PRR 201390 (Looking west from City Fuel Building, Mattapan) in 1928
 
PRR 201390 is part of series 200200-219957, which was a mix of PRR class GL and GLc type cars
 
Note the coal load is not at all heaped, making me think it has been partially unloaded. There is nothing to make me think there is any easy way to unload via the hopper doors, so was this car going to be emptied via shovel?
 
 
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End view of hopper PRR 201390 in 1928

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End view of hopper PRR 201390 (Looking west from City Fuel Building, Mattapan) in 1928
 
PRR 201390 is part of series 200200-219957, which was a mix of PRR class GL and GLc type cars
 
 
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Also note the trolley yard on the extreme right, and the armstrong turntable on the extreme left
 
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Re: used to load and unload steam era freight cars...

Philip Dove
 

A 20 ton crane was unusual, and probably only for lifting special freight once a day or less, the spur is obviously specially installed for that crane because you can only load one car at a time then you need to switch the car out.
I would have never thought of making the road vehicle and the rail car be at 90 degrees to each other but it makes sense theliad will not need any swinging off the crane hook to be aligned with the car it is lowering things onto, and the fixed jib makes this more important. The fixed jib also means no one is goulng to lower the crane jib and over balance the crane.
A very interesting picture. Only question now is how will they load the boxcar with such a crane? 

On Sat, 4 Sep 2021, 21:20 David Payne via groups.io, <davidcofga=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
 
Things moved slower back then; folks were happy to be moving at 20 mph instead of walking at 4 mph; unlike today when most of us can't see "Speed Limit" signs and are always in a hurry to ???
David Payne
Georgia
 


Re: Sunshine Kits

rmink
 

I was there yesterday and bought one of those kits thinking it was a kit.  They are sealed in a poly wrap and when I got home I found that the kit was in fact partially assembled.  The parts were all there but no instructions.  Fortunately, the build was pretty well done.  I will enjoy completing the kit and upgrading some of the details.  The selection of kits was excellent and I was able to get a kit I had been looking for.  The prices also seemed reasonable $50 to $60. So just a word of caution.

Regards,

Rick

Rick Mink


Re: used to load and unload steam era freight cars...

Kenneth Montero
 

Alexander Scale Models makes a similar pedestal crane in HO.


I do not know if anyone else makes a similar small pedestal crane.

Ken Montero


On 09/04/2021 3:07 PM Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:


Hi List Members,

While the image below does not feature freight cars (there are some in the background tho...) the hand powered crane shown certainly was used to load and unload steam era freight cars...


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used to load and unload steam era freight cars...

David Payne
 

 
Things moved slower back then; folks were happy to be moving at 20 mph instead of walking at 4 mph; unlike today when most of us can't see "Speed Limit" signs and are always in a hurry to ???
David Payne
Georgia
 


Re: Partial view of double sheathed box car NH 78399 in 1923 Milton MA

gary laakso
 

The CGR Fowler boxcar has what appears to be in inspection door on the end.  No tie plates, so is this a 1923 mainline or a branch line/industrial track?

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

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Partial view of double sheathed box car NH 78399 in 1923 Milton MA

 

 

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Partial view of double sheathed box car NH 78399 in 1923 Milton MA

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Partial view of double sheathed box car NH 78399 in 1923 Milton MA
 
 
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Re: ERIE 7206 heavy duty flat with electrical equipment from GE Pittsfield MA 1927

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In addition to the first view, the car is also visible in this view below...
 
 
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] ERIE 7206 heavy duty flat with electrical equipment from GE Pittsfield MA 1927

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ERIE 7206 heavy duty flat with electrical equipment from GE Pittsfield MA 1927
 
 
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Re: used to load and unload steam era freight cars...

Philip Dove
 

A handcranked crane that lifted 20 tons must have been very extreme gear ratio and very slow. Minutes per foot for lifting and lowering. I can only assume they had very occasional loads to move. In 1924 it seems incredible they didn't have some gas engine. The delay in moving other freight must have been terrible. Unless the crane was on a dedicated spur track. 



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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021, 20:07
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] used to load and unload steam era freight cars...
Hi List Members,
 
While the image below does not feature freight cars (there are some in the background tho...) the hand powered crane shown certainly was used to load and unload steam era freight cars...
 
 
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Claus Schlund
 


Partial view of gon NYC 632153 in 1942

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Partial view of gon NYC 632153 in 1942
 
 
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ERIE 7206 heavy duty flat with electrical equipment from GE Pittsfield MA 1927

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ERIE 7206 heavy duty flat with electrical equipment from GE Pittsfield MA 1927
 
 
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