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C&NW Emergency Box Cars- Black Ends

Scott H. Haycock
 

Folks,

I'm working on a model of one of these cars, but I've noticed that some of these cars received  black ends at some point.

I'm modeling 1959, so I'm wondering when this repaint occurred, and if I should consider this when I paint my model.


Re: ACF Type 11 Tankcar

Charlie Duckworth
 

Thanks. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Wa Sunshine Kits...

Jack Burgess
 

I have about 3,800 historic photos of my prototype, the Yosemite Valley Railroad. There are actual photo prints of probably 25% of them. The rest are all high resolution scans.

 

Our Trust specifies that all of those photos (plus the scans of all of them) plus research documents, YV documents, etc. be donated to the California State Railroad Museum in Sacramento. What if there is a house fire? There is a set of CDs of the photos in a fireproof safe. What if there is a massive earthquake and our entire town disappears? Other YV fans across the US (and in the Netherlands) have scans of every photo.

 

Just planning ahead…

 

Jack Burgess


Re: Sunshine Kits

mel perry
 

jim:
amen, been there twice, PITA
,-(
mel perry

On Sun, Sep 5, 2021, 2:17 PM np328 <jcdworkingonthenp@...> wrote:
       It is very possible these came in as an estate collection, after the owner had passed on.  If so, I would hope that the builder got some satisfaction for their money. 

Of the instructions, perhaps these were all placed in a "secure location", perhaps a notebook, away and apart from the models.

     To expand on that, I'll explain with my own experiences: My brother and I when younger and more free, would go off on adventures and take pictures, pencil down track arrangements at places that looked good to model - someday. We were moved by Paul Larson and the articles and sites he used to document for publications. Many of the places, railroads no longer exist.
      Our father was older by then and recently retired, and would often ask if he could look over these and we left them with him. When younger, he had put the railroading bug into us and it seemed a nice way to return the favor. Photos and other items got stored at our fathers house and that seemed OK. Fast foreword and I get married, later my brother gets married, these items our dad would take out from time to time. Move decades foreword again to several years ago, my brother passed away, dad is quite old and passes away at 95. My mother moves to a retirement home and while my wife and I are on vacation,....my sisters get the bug to clean out the house. 
     My father had photos he had taken over the 30s, 40s, 50s, of freight cars, many scenes like Union station in Chicago, or the C&NW lakefront Milwaukee station, much interurban stuff of the Chicago-Milwaukee area, Denver, Detroit, points east, and elsewhere. Much stuff get tossed including guess what of my brother and mine. 
     It did not mean anything to my sisters nor the people who assisted them. Mostly all tossed. 

     For people who have been through these events, the above will remind them of times they may not care to revisit.     There is a lesson here for those who care to see it.   

 At least the kits in Pasadena got saved. And are bringing happiness to others.                                                                                                   James Dick  - Roseville, MN  


 


Re: Sunshine Kits

lars svanevik
 

Dear Jim,

Well said.

Best regards,   Lars.


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of np328 via groups.io <jcdworkingonthenp@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 2:17 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Sunshine Kits
 
       It is very possible these came in as an estate collection, after the owner had passed on.  If so, I would hope that the builder got some satisfaction for their money. 

Of the instructions, perhaps these were all placed in a "secure location", perhaps a notebook, away and apart from the models.

     To expand on that, I'll explain with my own experiences: My brother and I when younger and more free, would go off on adventures and take pictures, pencil down track arrangements at places that looked good to model - someday. We were moved by Paul Larson and the articles and sites he used to document for publications. Many of the places, railroads no longer exist.
      Our father was older by then and recently retired, and would often ask if he could look over these and we left them with him. When younger, he had put the railroading bug into us and it seemed a nice way to return the favor. Photos and other items got stored at our fathers house and that seemed OK. Fast foreword and I get married, later my brother gets married, these items our dad would take out from time to time. Move decades foreword again to several years ago, my brother passed away, dad is quite old and passes away at 95. My mother moves to a retirement home and while my wife and I are on vacation,....my sisters get the bug to clean out the house. 
     My father had photos he had taken over the 30s, 40s, 50s, of freight cars, many scenes like Union station in Chicago, or the C&NW lakefront Milwaukee station, much interurban stuff of the Chicago-Milwaukee area, Denver, Detroit, points east, and elsewhere. Much stuff get tossed including guess what of my brother and mine. 
     It did not mean anything to my sisters nor the people who assisted them. Mostly all tossed. 

     For people who have been through these events, the above will remind them of times they may not care to revisit.     There is a lesson here for those who care to see it.   

 At least the kits in Pasadena got saved. And are bringing happiness to others.                                                                                                   James Dick  - Roseville, MN  


 


Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACF Type 11 Tankcar

Bruce Smith
 

Charlie,

I assume we're talking HO scale here... In addition to the F&C type 11, which is indeed 8K gallons, Sunset did a "PRR TM8" in brass, which is in fact an AC&F type 11, and indeed, since all of the mistakes in the Sunset were nicely replicated in the F&C model, one has to assume that perhaps there might have been some copying going on. Although the origin of the Sunset car was explained to Sunset, they apparently had not desire to produce the wide number of plain black schemes that decorated the car.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


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Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 2:51 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACF Type 11 Tankcar
 
CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.
Funaro & Camerlengo offer an HO scale kit for an AC&F Type 11 tank car. I don't know the gallon capacity but it looks like 8k.

They have always marked this kit as a Type 2 but it has been noted here in the past that it should be a Type 11.

I do not know of an RTR version.



Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN




On 09/05/2021 1:14 PM Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:


Was there ever a RTR or kit available for the AC&F Type 11 tank car?  
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.



Re: Sunshine Kits

np328
 

       It is very possible these came in as an estate collection, after the owner had passed on.  If so, I would hope that the builder got some satisfaction for their money. 

Of the instructions, perhaps these were all placed in a "secure location", perhaps a notebook, away and apart from the models.

     To expand on that, I'll explain with my own experiences: My brother and I when younger and more free, would go off on adventures and take pictures, pencil down track arrangements at places that looked good to model - someday. We were moved by Paul Larson and the articles and sites he used to document for publications. Many of the places, railroads no longer exist.
      Our father was older by then and recently retired, and would often ask if he could look over these and we left them with him. When younger, he had put the railroading bug into us and it seemed a nice way to return the favor. Photos and other items got stored at our fathers house and that seemed OK. Fast foreword and I get married, later my brother gets married, these items our dad would take out from time to time. Move decades foreword again to several years ago, my brother passed away, dad is quite old and passes away at 95. My mother moves to a retirement home and while my wife and I are on vacation,....my sisters get the bug to clean out the house. 
     My father had photos he had taken over the 30s, 40s, 50s, of freight cars, many scenes like Union station in Chicago, or the C&NW lakefront Milwaukee station, much interurban stuff of the Chicago-Milwaukee area, Denver, Detroit, points east, and elsewhere. Much stuff get tossed including guess what of my brother and mine. 
     It did not mean anything to my sisters nor the people who assisted them. Mostly all tossed. 

     For people who have been through these events, the above will remind them of times they may not care to revisit.     There is a lesson here for those who care to see it.   

 At least the kits in Pasadena got saved. And are bringing happiness to others.                                                                                                   James Dick  - Roseville, MN  


 


Photo: SFRD Reefer 16439 (Rr-23)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: SFRD Reefer 16439 (Rr-23)

A Peter Arnold photo courtesy of Don DeLay.

This Class Rr-23 ice bunker reefer was one of 1,500 cars (Series 31656-33155) rebuilt in 1937 from Class Rr-W reefers built new in 1920. Notice the “fish belly” underframe.

In 1956 a total of 672 Rr-23 cars were renumbered into the 16000-17499 series and 513 cars were renumbered into the 31656-32655 series.

By 1971 this class was down to 308 cars with the last two surviving into 1977.

As seen on this car, the “SHIP AND TRAVEL Santa Fe all the way” slogan started replacing the map scheme in 1947. Rr-23 16990 (not pictured) was the first Santa Fe reefer to receive the eight-foot “big circle” Santa Fe logo in 1959. SFRD 16439 seen here has the older cross/circle/square herald. The other side of this car has “THE Grand Canyon Line” slogan.

Also notice the unique Santa Fe reverse-opening hatch covers originally installed on this class have been replaced by the more conventional inboard opening hatch covers.

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railroad Citrus Industry Modeling Group

https://groups.io/g/RailroadCitrusIndustryModelingGroup


Re: ACF Type 11 Tankcar

Eric Hansmann
 

Funaro & Camerlengo offer an HO scale kit for an AC&F Type 11 tank car. I don't know the gallon capacity but it looks like 8k.

They have always marked this kit as a Type 2 but it has been noted here in the past that it should be a Type 11.

I do not know of an RTR version.



Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN




On 09/05/2021 1:14 PM Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:


Was there ever a RTR or kit available for the AC&F Type 11 tank car?  
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.



ACF Type 11 Tankcar

Charlie Duckworth
 

Was there ever a RTR or kit available for the AC&F Type 11 tank car?  
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: [ResinFreightCarBuilders] AEC boxcars

Tim O'Connor
 


Correct - I have photos of 9 cars. The cars are ex-Southern Railway and were built 1938 to 1942
just going by dates stenciled on the cars in the photos.


On 9/5/2021 3:03 PM, mel perry wrote:
"reposted as requested"

On Sun, Sep 5, 2021, 11:10 AM Robert Ellis <bobjel67@...> wrote:
I have been trying to respond to a topic on the RealSTMFC site, but my computer skills aren't up to it. So I'm posting the information here, in the hope that someone from that group will see it and pass it on. 
     Not all the Atlantic and East Carolina boxcars had square corner posts. The City of Vancouver archives contains a photo of AEC 1054, taken in 1956, that clearly shows a car with W corner posts. The original number appears to be in the 14000 series. The image can be found on Google Images under Atlantic and East Carolina Railroad. Bob Ellis. 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: [ResinFreightCarBuilders] AEC boxcars

mel perry
 

"reposted as requested"


On Sun, Sep 5, 2021, 11:10 AM Robert Ellis <bobjel67@...> wrote:
I have been trying to respond to a topic on the RealSTMFC site, but my computer skills aren't up to it. So I'm posting the information here, in the hope that someone from that group will see it and pass it on. 
     Not all the Atlantic and East Carolina boxcars had square corner posts. The City of Vancouver archives contains a photo of AEC 1054, taken in 1956, that clearly shows a car with W corner posts. The original number appears to be in the 14000 series. The image can be found on Google Images under Atlantic and East Carolina Railroad. Bob Ellis. 


Re: Maine Central gondola

 

Clark, here is a scan of the photo.
Jack




Jack Dziadul
Sanford, NC


Re: Maine Central gondola

Richard Townsend
 

Trying again.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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Here's the RMC article. I think all four pages are there.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


Re: Maine Central gondola

Richard Townsend
 

Here's the RMC article. I think all four pages are there.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


Maine Central gondola

 

Clark, Northern New England Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment David R. Sweetland page 53. There is a 3/4 B end view of MEC 17018 (the caption reads that it is 17019).
  • Bethlehem Steel
  • 1939
  • 17000-17149
  • rebuilt 1960s to 3100-3114, 7901-7902,1700-1789,1900-1914
Jack Dziadul
Sanford, NC


Re: Maine Central gondola

Richard Townsend
 

Clark,

The May '89 RMC had an article by Chuck Yungkurth titled "Low side gondolas of the MEC and other roads." It has photos (4 MEC, 6 other) and plans (MEC). Numbers 17000-17149, built in 1939.

If you don't have easy access to it, I can scan it for you later today.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


Re: Maine Central gondola

O Fenton Wells
 

Can't help on the MEC gon Clark
Sorry
Fenton

On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 12:01 PM Clark Propst via groups.io <cepropst=q.com@groups.io> wrote:
I picked up a F&C Maine Central low side gon the other day. Little info in the instructions. Does anyone have a photo or two? Number series?

Thanks!!

Clark Propst



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Maine Central gondola

Clark Propst
 

I picked up a F&C Maine Central low side gon the other day. Little info in the instructions. Does anyone have a photo or two? Number series?

Thanks!!

Clark Propst


Re: Sunshine Kits

golden1014
 

Hi Guys,

Regarding the Sunshine kits, if anybody going there has a smartphone handy, how about sending some photos of the models so we know what’s available?

John Golden
Ramstein, Germany

2761 - 2780 of 189722