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Re: ACF Type 11 Tankcar

Tim O'Connor
 


I agree. I probably would have thrown it against the wall before getting that far. :-D
I don't know why but frames remain very problematic with resin tank cars.

Tim O'


On 9/6/2021 9:58 AM, Paul Doggett via groups.io wrote:
Ian 

That’s looking really good.

Paul Doggett.   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 6 Sep 2021, at 14:57, Ian MacKellar <cncaboose@...> wrote:

I recently finished construction of one of the F&C cars and it is waiting for my next paint multiple cars day. In typical fashion for F&C the directions were almost nonexistent. Some parts did not fit, in particular the bottom of the tank casting took a lot of work to get it to fit to the main tank. The main tank casting has a serious blemish on one side. Several smaller parts were just plain missing or the castings were bad. I used Tichy K brake and end hand rails, Yarmouth brake levers and Carmer cut levers, Evergreen strips for the tank bands, and A-line corner steps bent for side mounting. If you want a challenge, this is the kit for you. 
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: ACF Type 11 Tankcar

O Fenton Wells
 

Looks good Steve
Nicely done
fenton

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 12:23 PM Steve SANDIFER <steve.sandifer@...> wrote:

My version, Ted’s decals. I have two, one the F&C and one the Sunset. I purchased the Sunset painted white with Ethyl paint scheme, stripped it, added underbody details, and painted it.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ian MacKellar
Sent: Monday, September 6, 2021 10:59 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ACF Type 11 Tankcar

 

DX with the Speedwitch decals



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: ACF Type 11 Tankcar

Charlie Duckworth
 

Ian
thanks for the review; after building the high walkway tankcar a year ago I just couldn’t put myself through building another F&C tankcar and it didn’t have near the issues you mentioned with the Type 11 kit. 
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: ACF Type 11 Tankcar

Steve SANDIFER
 

My version, Ted’s decals. I have two, one the F&C and one the Sunset. I purchased the Sunset painted white with Ethyl paint scheme, stripped it, added underbody details, and painted it.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ian MacKellar
Sent: Monday, September 6, 2021 10:59 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ACF Type 11 Tankcar

 

DX with the Speedwitch decals


Re: ACF Type 11 Tankcar

Ian MacKellar
 

DX with the Speedwitch decals


Re: Speedwitch/National scale car decals

Joseph
 

I have a partial set, lettered one car.  You can have it if you want it
Joe Binish
Mstl852 at gmail dot com

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 9:10 AM Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi

Has anyone got a set of Speedwitch/national scale car decals for B&O wagon top boxcars set D130  they are willing to sell?

Thank you
Paul Doggett.    England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿






Re: ACF Type 11 Tankcar

O Fenton Wells
 

Nice looking build Ian, what car line are you going to paint it?


On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 9:57 AM Ian MacKellar <cncaboose@...> wrote:
I recently finished construction of one of the F&C cars and it is waiting for my next paint multiple cars day. In typical fashion for F&C the directions were almost nonexistent. Some parts did not fit, in particular the bottom of the tank casting took a lot of work to get it to fit to the main tank. The main tank casting has a serious blemish on one side. Several smaller parts were just plain missing or the castings were bad. I used Tichy K brake and end hand rails, Yarmouth brake levers and Carmer cut levers, Evergreen strips for the tank bands, and A-line corner steps bent for side mounting. If you want a challenge, this is the kit for you. 



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: ACF Type 11 Tankcar

william darnaby
 

A few years back I finished three of these guys and they can be built into nice models.  The tank is crude because, as somebody mentioned, a brass model was used as the master resulting in the rivet detail being faint to nonexistent.  The solution is to scrape all of them off and replace with Archer rivets.  I am pretty sure I used Speedwitch decals for the DX and Mobil versions that I have.

Bill Darnaby



Speedwitch/National scale car decals

Paul Doggett
 

Hi

Has anyone got a set of Speedwitch/national scale car decals for B&O wagon top boxcars set D130 they are willing to sell?

Thank you
Paul Doggett. England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿


Re: ACF Type 11 Tankcar

Paul Doggett
 

Ian 

That’s looking really good.

Paul Doggett.   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 6 Sep 2021, at 14:57, Ian MacKellar <cncaboose@...> wrote:

I recently finished construction of one of the F&C cars and it is waiting for my next paint multiple cars day. In typical fashion for F&C the directions were almost nonexistent. Some parts did not fit, in particular the bottom of the tank casting took a lot of work to get it to fit to the main tank. The main tank casting has a serious blemish on one side. Several smaller parts were just plain missing or the castings were bad. I used Tichy K brake and end hand rails, Yarmouth brake levers and Carmer cut levers, Evergreen strips for the tank bands, and A-line corner steps bent for side mounting. If you want a challenge, this is the kit for you. 
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Re: ACF Type 11 Tankcar

Ian MacKellar
 

I recently finished construction of one of the F&C cars and it is waiting for my next paint multiple cars day. In typical fashion for F&C the directions were almost nonexistent. Some parts did not fit, in particular the bottom of the tank casting took a lot of work to get it to fit to the main tank. The main tank casting has a serious blemish on one side. Several smaller parts were just plain missing or the castings were bad. I used Tichy K brake and end hand rails, Yarmouth brake levers and Carmer cut levers, Evergreen strips for the tank bands, and A-line corner steps bent for side mounting. If you want a challenge, this is the kit for you. 


C&NW Emergency Box Cars- Black Ends

Scott H. Haycock
 

Folks,

I'm working on a model of one of these cars, but I've noticed that some of these cars received  black ends at some point.

I'm modeling 1959, so I'm wondering when this repaint occurred, and if I should consider this when I paint my model.


Re: ACF Type 11 Tankcar

Charlie Duckworth
 

Thanks. 
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Wa Sunshine Kits...

Jack Burgess
 

I have about 3,800 historic photos of my prototype, the Yosemite Valley Railroad. There are actual photo prints of probably 25% of them. The rest are all high resolution scans.

 

Our Trust specifies that all of those photos (plus the scans of all of them) plus research documents, YV documents, etc. be donated to the California State Railroad Museum in Sacramento. What if there is a house fire? There is a set of CDs of the photos in a fireproof safe. What if there is a massive earthquake and our entire town disappears? Other YV fans across the US (and in the Netherlands) have scans of every photo.

 

Just planning ahead…

 

Jack Burgess


Re: Sunshine Kits

mel perry
 

jim:
amen, been there twice, PITA
,-(
mel perry

On Sun, Sep 5, 2021, 2:17 PM np328 <jcdworkingonthenp@...> wrote:
       It is very possible these came in as an estate collection, after the owner had passed on.  If so, I would hope that the builder got some satisfaction for their money. 

Of the instructions, perhaps these were all placed in a "secure location", perhaps a notebook, away and apart from the models.

     To expand on that, I'll explain with my own experiences: My brother and I when younger and more free, would go off on adventures and take pictures, pencil down track arrangements at places that looked good to model - someday. We were moved by Paul Larson and the articles and sites he used to document for publications. Many of the places, railroads no longer exist.
      Our father was older by then and recently retired, and would often ask if he could look over these and we left them with him. When younger, he had put the railroading bug into us and it seemed a nice way to return the favor. Photos and other items got stored at our fathers house and that seemed OK. Fast foreword and I get married, later my brother gets married, these items our dad would take out from time to time. Move decades foreword again to several years ago, my brother passed away, dad is quite old and passes away at 95. My mother moves to a retirement home and while my wife and I are on vacation,....my sisters get the bug to clean out the house. 
     My father had photos he had taken over the 30s, 40s, 50s, of freight cars, many scenes like Union station in Chicago, or the C&NW lakefront Milwaukee station, much interurban stuff of the Chicago-Milwaukee area, Denver, Detroit, points east, and elsewhere. Much stuff get tossed including guess what of my brother and mine. 
     It did not mean anything to my sisters nor the people who assisted them. Mostly all tossed. 

     For people who have been through these events, the above will remind them of times they may not care to revisit.     There is a lesson here for those who care to see it.   

 At least the kits in Pasadena got saved. And are bringing happiness to others.                                                                                                   James Dick  - Roseville, MN  


 


Re: Sunshine Kits

lars svanevik
 

Dear Jim,

Well said.

Best regards,   Lars.


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of np328 via groups.io <jcdworkingonthenp@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 2:17 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Sunshine Kits
 
       It is very possible these came in as an estate collection, after the owner had passed on.  If so, I would hope that the builder got some satisfaction for their money. 

Of the instructions, perhaps these were all placed in a "secure location", perhaps a notebook, away and apart from the models.

     To expand on that, I'll explain with my own experiences: My brother and I when younger and more free, would go off on adventures and take pictures, pencil down track arrangements at places that looked good to model - someday. We were moved by Paul Larson and the articles and sites he used to document for publications. Many of the places, railroads no longer exist.
      Our father was older by then and recently retired, and would often ask if he could look over these and we left them with him. When younger, he had put the railroading bug into us and it seemed a nice way to return the favor. Photos and other items got stored at our fathers house and that seemed OK. Fast foreword and I get married, later my brother gets married, these items our dad would take out from time to time. Move decades foreword again to several years ago, my brother passed away, dad is quite old and passes away at 95. My mother moves to a retirement home and while my wife and I are on vacation,....my sisters get the bug to clean out the house. 
     My father had photos he had taken over the 30s, 40s, 50s, of freight cars, many scenes like Union station in Chicago, or the C&NW lakefront Milwaukee station, much interurban stuff of the Chicago-Milwaukee area, Denver, Detroit, points east, and elsewhere. Much stuff get tossed including guess what of my brother and mine. 
     It did not mean anything to my sisters nor the people who assisted them. Mostly all tossed. 

     For people who have been through these events, the above will remind them of times they may not care to revisit.     There is a lesson here for those who care to see it.   

 At least the kits in Pasadena got saved. And are bringing happiness to others.                                                                                                   James Dick  - Roseville, MN  


 


Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACF Type 11 Tankcar

Bruce Smith
 

Charlie,

I assume we're talking HO scale here... In addition to the F&C type 11, which is indeed 8K gallons, Sunset did a "PRR TM8" in brass, which is in fact an AC&F type 11, and indeed, since all of the mistakes in the Sunset were nicely replicated in the F&C model, one has to assume that perhaps there might have been some copying going on. Although the origin of the Sunset car was explained to Sunset, they apparently had not desire to produce the wide number of plain black schemes that decorated the car.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Eric Hansmann <eric@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 2:51 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACF Type 11 Tankcar
 
CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.
Funaro & Camerlengo offer an HO scale kit for an AC&F Type 11 tank car. I don't know the gallon capacity but it looks like 8k.

They have always marked this kit as a Type 2 but it has been noted here in the past that it should be a Type 11.

I do not know of an RTR version.



Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN




On 09/05/2021 1:14 PM Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:


Was there ever a RTR or kit available for the AC&F Type 11 tank car?  
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.



Re: Sunshine Kits

np328
 

       It is very possible these came in as an estate collection, after the owner had passed on.  If so, I would hope that the builder got some satisfaction for their money. 

Of the instructions, perhaps these were all placed in a "secure location", perhaps a notebook, away and apart from the models.

     To expand on that, I'll explain with my own experiences: My brother and I when younger and more free, would go off on adventures and take pictures, pencil down track arrangements at places that looked good to model - someday. We were moved by Paul Larson and the articles and sites he used to document for publications. Many of the places, railroads no longer exist.
      Our father was older by then and recently retired, and would often ask if he could look over these and we left them with him. When younger, he had put the railroading bug into us and it seemed a nice way to return the favor. Photos and other items got stored at our fathers house and that seemed OK. Fast foreword and I get married, later my brother gets married, these items our dad would take out from time to time. Move decades foreword again to several years ago, my brother passed away, dad is quite old and passes away at 95. My mother moves to a retirement home and while my wife and I are on vacation,....my sisters get the bug to clean out the house. 
     My father had photos he had taken over the 30s, 40s, 50s, of freight cars, many scenes like Union station in Chicago, or the C&NW lakefront Milwaukee station, much interurban stuff of the Chicago-Milwaukee area, Denver, Detroit, points east, and elsewhere. Much stuff get tossed including guess what of my brother and mine. 
     It did not mean anything to my sisters nor the people who assisted them. Mostly all tossed. 

     For people who have been through these events, the above will remind them of times they may not care to revisit.     There is a lesson here for those who care to see it.   

 At least the kits in Pasadena got saved. And are bringing happiness to others.                                                                                                   James Dick  - Roseville, MN  


 


Photo: SFRD Reefer 16439 (Rr-23)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: SFRD Reefer 16439 (Rr-23)

A Peter Arnold photo courtesy of Don DeLay.

This Class Rr-23 ice bunker reefer was one of 1,500 cars (Series 31656-33155) rebuilt in 1937 from Class Rr-W reefers built new in 1920. Notice the “fish belly” underframe.

In 1956 a total of 672 Rr-23 cars were renumbered into the 16000-17499 series and 513 cars were renumbered into the 31656-32655 series.

By 1971 this class was down to 308 cars with the last two surviving into 1977.

As seen on this car, the “SHIP AND TRAVEL Santa Fe all the way” slogan started replacing the map scheme in 1947. Rr-23 16990 (not pictured) was the first Santa Fe reefer to receive the eight-foot “big circle” Santa Fe logo in 1959. SFRD 16439 seen here has the older cross/circle/square herald. The other side of this car has “THE Grand Canyon Line” slogan.

Also notice the unique Santa Fe reverse-opening hatch covers originally installed on this class have been replaced by the more conventional inboard opening hatch covers.

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railroad Citrus Industry Modeling Group

https://groups.io/g/RailroadCitrusIndustryModelingGroup


Re: ACF Type 11 Tankcar

Eric Hansmann
 

Funaro & Camerlengo offer an HO scale kit for an AC&F Type 11 tank car. I don't know the gallon capacity but it looks like 8k.

They have always marked this kit as a Type 2 but it has been noted here in the past that it should be a Type 11.

I do not know of an RTR version.



Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN




On 09/05/2021 1:14 PM Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:


Was there ever a RTR or kit available for the AC&F Type 11 tank car?  
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


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