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Re: Rapido announces HO Scale UTLX 10,000 gallon X-3 tankcar

nyc3001 .
 

Will this be the 54" dome variant?

-Phil Lee


Color recommendation for post 1945-1950 painted GN SS single door boxcar

Charlie Duckworth
 

I’m at the point with my Westerfield 50’ GN SS single door boxcar where I need to paint it. The instructions advise ‘mineral red’ for the time period in which it would have been shopped and painted. Any suggestions from the GN modelers on the list?  How was the roof and underframe coated?   Tim sent me a shot of a car painted in a oxide color but advised I contact the SMEs.   


Also the number series seem confusing (to me at least) some cars in 29000 group, others in 38000, 42000, 43000 and 5100.  Westerfield car has numbering for the 42000 series.  Attached is an image from my collection of one in company service  


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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Model: SRLX 6310

Allen Cain
 

How long after WWII would these war bond cars have been in service in this paint scheme?

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Allen Cain
Modeling the Southern in 1955

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Allen Cain
Modeling the Southern in 1955 in HO Scale


Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Rapido announces HO Scale UTLX 10,000 gallon X-3 tankcar

Bruce Smith
 

Andy,

Oh boy... this is gonna hurt my bank account!!

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Andy Laurent via groups.io <andy.laurent@...>
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Subject: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Rapido announces HO Scale UTLX 10,000 gallon X-3 tankcar
 
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You read that right.

https://rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/freight-cars/ho-scale-union-x-3-tankcar

Andy L.
Madison, WI


Re: Sunshine Kits

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Michael,
Fenton

On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 6:57 PM Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:
Dear Friends,

Today I stopped at the Original Whistle Stop in Pasadena, CA and photographed some of the Sunshine models still available.  It is my understanding that some are partially built, but call the store for information and prices:  (626) 796-7791. Notice there are ten Intermountain ATSF plastic reefer kits available, as well.  Happy hunting!
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Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Sunshine Kits

Michael Gross
 

Dear Friends,

Today I stopped at the Original Whistle Stop in Pasadena, CA and photographed some of the Sunshine models still available.  It is my understanding that some are partially built, but call the store for information and prices:  (626) 796-7791. Notice there are ten Intermountain ATSF plastic reefer kits available, as well.  Happy hunting!
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Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: Model: SRLX 6310

robert netzlof <rtnetzlof@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Storzek" <dennis@accurail.com>

But WWII seems too late for orthochromatic film...
Yes, panchromatic film was available in those days, but I'm not at all certain its use was general. Verichrome, what one got at the drugstore when one asked for "film", was orthochromatic and wasn't replaced by Verichrome Pan until 1956. Further, it appears that there were several, at least three, versions of panchromatic film which varied in their sensitivity to red light. Thus it's possible that the photo in question could have been made on almost any kind of film ever known to man. If the photographer used a colored filter then all bets are off.

"The past is a foreign country."


--
Bob Netzlof a/k/a Sweet Old Bob


Re: Model: SRLX 6310

 

I was going to reply something similar, but then remembered we used to use yellow filters to pop SP’s red nose out from the gray. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Sep 13, 2021, at 3:56 PM, Dennis Storzek <dennis@...> wrote:

On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 12:20 PM, Scott wrote:
There has been discussion that the top was reefer yellow not red.  The letters in the photo above are to dark in my opinion to be gold.  But it doesn't make much sense as why they would not have painted the top red.  I have the sunshine kit but haven't finished it.  I cant decide which way to go on it with the paint job.
Wow, what a can of worms. Knowing how some older B&W film rendered colors, my first thought was that the bottom color was red, while the upper color was blue and the lettering yellow. But WWII seems too late for orthochromatic film, and I've seen that film make blue literally disappear, so my next thought was the photographer used a color filter to get better tonal separation between the red and blue since both normally print as mid-tone gray. A red filter would have darkened the blue and lightened the red, but would have turned the yellow  lettering white. All I can surmise is the lettering in the red band was not yellow, OR was painted a different color specifically for this photo.

Dennis Storzek


Rapido announces HO Scale UTLX 10,000 gallon X-3 tankcar

Andy Laurent
 


Re: Model: SRLX 6310

Dennis Storzek
 

On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 12:20 PM, Scott wrote:
There has been discussion that the top was reefer yellow not red.  The letters in the photo above are to dark in my opinion to be gold.  But it doesn't make much sense as why they would not have painted the top red.  I have the sunshine kit but haven't finished it.  I cant decide which way to go on it with the paint job.
Wow, what a can of worms. Knowing how some older B&W film rendered colors, my first thought was that the bottom color was red, while the upper color was blue and the lettering yellow. But WWII seems too late for orthochromatic film, and I've seen that film make blue literally disappear, so my next thought was the photographer used a color filter to get better tonal separation between the red and blue since both normally print as mid-tone gray. A red filter would have darkened the blue and lightened the red, but would have turned the yellow  lettering white. All I can surmise is the lettering in the red band was not yellow, OR was painted a different color specifically for this photo.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Model: SRLX 6310

Richard Townsend
 

Clover House offers dry transfers for this scheme.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Model: SRLX 6310

Model: SRLX 6310
I photographed this N scale model of a Swift refrigerator car on the recent Pacific Southwest Region/NMRA Convention layout tour in Orange County, CA.
The car is decorated in an obvious World War II patriotic paint scheme.
My question is, is this an authentic paint scheme or just whimsical? Perhaps adapted from a prototype paint scheme applied to a different car?
Thanks.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Manure shipped by rail

Steve Salotti
 

Hello Robert
For many years the PRR shipped carloads of manure from farms to the Kennet Square PA area.  The loads were destined for mushroom growers located throughout the area.  After many years, the shipments were stopped when the local fire departments refused to respond when the loads of manure left in the sun too long would spontaneously combust.  Not a pleasant task.
Steve Salotti


Re: Model: SRLX 6310

Scott
 

There has been discussion that the top was reefer yellow not red.  The letters in the photo above are to dark in my opinion to be gold.  But it doesn't make much sense as why they would not have painted the top red.  I have the sunshine kit but haven't finished it.  I cant decide which way to go on it with the paint job.

Scott McDonald 


Refrigerator Cars As Grain Carriers

Bob Chaparro
 

Refrigerator Cars As Grain Carriers

On those probably rare occasions that ice bunker refrigerator cars were used to transport grain because of boxcar shortages, how would the grain doors be secured to the inside of the car?

From what I have read using nails to secure things to the interior walls of refrigerator cars was heavily discouraged.

Anyone?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Model: SRLX 6310

brianleppert@att.net
 

From Carroll Schmitt collection

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Re: Model: SRLX 6310

 

I notice it’s derailed.

 

 

Thanks!
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Brian Ehni

 

 

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Date: Monday, September 13, 2021 at 1:14 PM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Model: SRLX 6310

 

Model: SRLX 6310

I photographed this N scale model of a Swift refrigerator car on the recent Pacific Southwest Region/NMRA Convention layout tour in Orange County, CA.

The car is decorated in an obvious World War II patriotic paint scheme.

My question is, is this an authentic paint scheme or just whimsical? Perhaps adapted from a prototype paint scheme applied to a different car?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Model: SRLX 6310

Bruce Smith
 

Bob,


The paint scheme is prototypical and was just offered in the latest run of the Rapido General America 37’  reefer. Rapido offered two numbers, 6307, and 6310.

 

Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

 

 

 

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Date: Monday, September 13, 2021 at 1:15 PM
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Subject: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Model: SRLX 6310

 

CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.

Model: SRLX 6310

I photographed this N scale model of a Swift refrigerator car on the recent Pacific Southwest Region/NMRA Convention layout tour in Orange County, CA.

The car is decorated in an obvious World War II patriotic paint scheme.

My question is, is this an authentic paint scheme or just whimsical? Perhaps adapted from a prototype paint scheme applied to a different car?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Model: SRLX 6310

Bob Chaparro
 

Model: SRLX 6310

I photographed this N scale model of a Swift refrigerator car on the recent Pacific Southwest Region/NMRA Convention layout tour in Orange County, CA.

The car is decorated in an obvious World War II patriotic paint scheme.

My question is, is this an authentic paint scheme or just whimsical? Perhaps adapted from a prototype paint scheme applied to a different car?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Fertilizer by any other name would smell as sweet (was Manure shipped by rail)

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Sep 13, 2021, at 05:11, Robert G P <bobgp5109@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello group,
[in re: rail shipment of "steersch", as a family friend called it]

I'm more familiar with the shipment of sugar beet beet pulp to feedlot, whereat the combined aromas of the two organic waste products would mingle in strange and wondrous ways. The operations which I witnessed as a child were short-haul, from a local sugar mill to nearby feedlots, and no more recently than the early 1950s.

[Woodland, CA, Spreckels, where Dad was a foreman, to no farther than North Sacramento]
--
Artie the Hinged Jaw
Retired AFU Game Warden


Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Manure shipped by rail

Alex Huff
 

Since 1926 (I looked it up) the city of Milwaukee has sold dried sewage sludge under the brand name Milorganite. Once a year, a golf course north of Grand Rapids, MI would receive a 40' boxcar of bagged Milorganite.  It was touted as a source of slow release nitrogen.  The car was spotted on a team track in Rockford, MI.  There was no odor.  The name is derived from Milwaukee Organic Nitrogen.   

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