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Re: Manure shipped by rail

Robert G P
 

Yes, this has all been exceptionally helpful!   


On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 1:46 PM Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek <jvgbvg@...> wrote:

You guys are sticklers for realism.  Well done.

 

Jim van Gaasbeek

Irvine, CA

 

(No horses near by)


Sunshine NRC/MDT composit reefers Kits 20.1 and 20.2

O Fenton Wells
 


I would love to have these kits and I feel many of you would as well.  Frank Hodina, CEO or Resin Car Works did the masters of these kits for Sunshine Modles years ago and is willing to re-create and re-release these cars as one piece bodies if there is enough interest.
One thing that would "prime the pump" so to speak would be for Frank to have access to an unbuilt kit.  If anyone out there has one and is willing to send it  to Frank at RCW please do and that person will get a replacement one piece body kit in return and the ability to buy more as well.  A good deal and we all win.
Frank can be contacted at RCW <rcw2@...> 
Hopefully someone steps up for this, thanking you all in advance.
Thanks,
Fenton


Re: Rapido announces HO Scale UTLX 10,000 gallon X-3 tankcar

Eric Hansmann
 

Upon closer review, the other tank car has SHPX reporting marks.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:19 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido announces HO Scale UTLX 10,000 gallon X-3 tankcar

 

Bruce,

 

There are several points to determine about this photo, which I assume is the lower one in the file shared.

 

First, are these UTLX tank cars? I can’t determine ownership from the photo details.

 

Second, the tank car beside the B&O diesel has an insulated tank. If it is a UTLX tank car, it is not the same as Class X-3 models announce by Rapido.

 

Third, why are those tank cars there? I checked my 1922 B&O Form 6 book and see a siding a mile west of Sykesville for the Springfield State Hospital, just before Sykesville Tunnel. The siding has a 158 car capacity, with eight car lengths as company owned. Does the hospital receive oil in tank cars for their boilers? Or are these just being stored on a long track?

 

Further review of towns and customers east and west of that point does not reveal any Standard Oil dealers. I see a coal and lumber dealer t Woodbine, but that’s it. There are several customers along the line that only have names without an indication of their product focus.

 

I don’t have a later Form 6 book to consult for updated details.

 

Overall, the UTLX 10K gallon Class X-3 tank cars were a large proportion of the UTLX fleet. As you are modeling just after WW2, a few cars may still have their original K brake systems, but the lettering may have been updated. I’m not certain of the through train frequency you are planning for your layout, but there would probably be UTLX tank cars in those consists. Did the B&O service a Standard Oil refinery in Baltimore? I don’t see one listed in the 1922 Form 6.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Griffin
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 10:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido announces HO Scale UTLX 10,000 gallon X-3 tankcar

 

Friends, 

I guess I didn’t pay attention to the years of conversations about tank cars and I didn’t buy the book (I searched eBay and Amazon). So, I model 1950 B&0 on the east coast and I know I want about 15 of these cars for my fleet. Advice? 10 of the 1930s models and  5 of the1950s models or undec with ab brakes and hope NSC restocks decals for this model and I can make them appropriate for 1950?  I’ve attached a photo of the scene I want to recreate. Thank you. 

 

Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 


Re: Rapido announces HO Scale UTLX 10,000 gallon X-3 tankcar

Eric Hansmann
 

Bruce,

 

There are several points to determine about this photo, which I assume is the lower one in the file shared.

 

First, are these UTLX tank cars? I can’t determine ownership from the photo details.

 

Second, the tank car beside the B&O diesel has an insulated tank. If it is a UTLX tank car, it is not the same as Class X-3 models announce by Rapido.

 

Third, why are those tank cars there? I checked my 1922 B&O Form 6 book and see a siding a mile west of Sykesville for the Springfield State Hospital, just before Sykesville Tunnel. The siding has a 158 car capacity, with eight car lengths as company owned. Does the hospital receive oil in tank cars for their boilers? Or are these just being stored on a long track?

 

Further review of towns and customers east and west of that point does not reveal any Standard Oil dealers. I see a coal and lumber dealer t Woodbine, but that’s it. There are several customers along the line that only have names without an indication of their product focus.

 

I don’t have a later Form 6 book to consult for updated details.

 

Overall, the UTLX 10K gallon Class X-3 tank cars were a large proportion of the UTLX fleet. As you are modeling just after WW2, a few cars may still have their original K brake systems, but the lettering may have been updated. I’m not certain of the through train frequency you are planning for your layout, but there would probably be UTLX tank cars in those consists. Did the B&O service a Standard Oil refinery in Baltimore? I don’t see one listed in the 1922 Form 6.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Griffin
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 10:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido announces HO Scale UTLX 10,000 gallon X-3 tankcar

 

Friends, 

I guess I didn’t pay attention to the years of conversations about tank cars and I didn’t buy the book (I searched eBay and Amazon). So, I model 1950 B&0 on the east coast and I know I want about 15 of these cars for my fleet. Advice? 10 of the 1930s models and  5 of the1950s models or undec with ab brakes and hope NSC restocks decals for this model and I can make them appropriate for 1950?  I’ve attached a photo of the scene I want to recreate. Thank you. 

 

Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 


Re: D&H P-S Box Car Decals

O Fenton Wells
 

Didn't know they were still in business, good to know, Thanks for the heads up Mike
Fenton

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 9:02 AM Mike Clements via groups.io <mbclements=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Late to the game on this, but Highball has a set that should work as well. 

Freight Car HO Scale: Delaware & Hudson Round "Bridge Line" Herald 40' Boxcars HO Scale (highballgraphics.com)

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Mike Clements
Wakefield, MA
nyc65.wordpress.com



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Fenton Wells
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Re: D&H P-S Box Car Decals

Mike Clements
 

Late to the game on this, but Highball has a set that should work as well. 

Freight Car HO Scale: Delaware & Hudson Round "Bridge Line" Herald 40' Boxcars HO Scale (highballgraphics.com)

--
Mike Clements
Wakefield, MA
nyc65.wordpress.com


Re: Rapido announces HO Scale UTLX 10,000 gallon X-3 tankcar

Ryan Mendell
 

I am re running the UTLX decals. Should be here well before the Rapido models.

Ryan
National Scale Car


Re: Rapido announces HO Scale UTLX 10,000 gallon X-3 tankcar

Bruce Griffin
 

Friends, 

I guess I didn’t pay attention to the years of conversations about tank cars and I didn’t buy the book (I searched eBay and Amazon). So, I model 1950 B&0 on the east coast and I know I want about 15 of these cars for my fleet. Advice? 10 of the 1930s models and  5 of the1950s models or undec with ab brakes and hope NSC restocks decals for this model and I can make them appropriate for 1950?  I’ve attached a photo of the scene I want to recreate. Thank you. 

 

Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 


Re: [NYC-Railroad] NYC Cabooses in HO Scale and O Gauge

Charlie Vlk
 

The joke on us is that after decades of ATSF Athearn and other HO copies and the N Scale Roco MiniTrix and AHM and others copies of them being painted for every railroad under the sun.....
......late in the caboose era the ATSF sold off their cars (and similar class with flat roof panels) to many railroads making life imitate art!!
(IHB did get some and they were painted Jade Green!)
Charlie Vlk


On Sep 15, 2021, at 6:13 PM, Doug Kisala via groups.io <dougkisala@...> wrote:


Hello list,

Three out of five cabooses with legitimate NYC prototypes. :)

Not to worry, I've since repainted the AHM jade green caboose into Santa Fe colors (where it belongs).  

The bobber caboose is a Mantua (or possibly Tyco) car from my grandfather's collection.  It has been around since at least the early 1970s, and possibly the 1960s.  I added Kadee couplers and changed the wheelsets to Kadees, but I haven't made other changes to the car. 

The HO model of 19238 is from American Scale Models/Laser Kit.  

The O gauge model of 19877 is a repainted Mike's Train House model with Protocraft decals.

I just got my Tangent Despatch Shops car a couple of days ago and it looks terrific.  If only we could convince them to do an HO scale H5 2-8-2 or K3n 4-6-2.....

Doug Kisala


<NYC 312 Caboose.JPG>
<NYC 334 Bobber Caboose.JPG>
<NYC 19238 Caboose.jpg>
<NYC 19877 Caboose Nov 2020.jpg>
<NYC 20241 Caboose.jpg>


Re: Manure shipped by rail

Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek
 

You guys are sticklers for realism.  Well done.

 

Jim van Gaasbeek

Irvine, CA

 

(No horses near by)


Re: Manure shipped by rail

Todd Sullivan
 

Charlie,

Goat effluent tops the list for retaining a strong smell.  Fortunately, most real and model railroads don't service goat farms. ;-)

Todd Sullivan


Re: Manure shipped by rail

maynard stowe
 

Guess you don’t live in the country Charlie.
Maynard Stowe

On Sep 15, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Charlie Vlk <cvlk@...> wrote:

Horse manure, when aged and reduced to dust, retains a mild horsey smell that might help mask the smell of coffee grounds.
I don’t know if cow or pig poop tones down with age….it sure (at least to me) is more offensive when freshly out of the animals!
Charlie Vlk
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Bergh
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Manure shipped by rail
 
I have used leftover coffee grounds from "pods" as a stand-in for manure on my layout... I gave them a spritz of Lysol to cut the coffee smell before using them. Color and texture seems pretty good! <image001.jpg>
-- 
-Eric Bergh, Walnut Creek, CA
Learn by Doing!



Re: Manure shipped by rail

Charlie Vlk
 

Horse manure, when aged and reduced to dust, retains a mild horsey smell that might help mask the smell of coffee grounds.

I don’t know if cow or pig poop tones down with age….it sure (at least to me) is more offensive when freshly out of the animals!

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Bergh
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Manure shipped by rail

 

I have used leftover coffee grounds from "pods" as a stand-in for manure on my layout... I gave them a spritz of Lysol to cut the coffee smell before using them. Color and texture seems pretty good!
--
-Eric Bergh, Walnut Creek, CA
Learn by Doing!


Re: Manure shipped by rail

Eric Bergh
 

I have used leftover coffee grounds from "pods" as a stand-in for manure on my layout... I gave them a spritz of Lysol to cut the coffee smell before using them. Color and texture seems pretty good!
--
-Eric Bergh, Walnut Creek, CA
Learn by Doing!


Re: Model: SRLX 6310

Scott
 

Gold lettering on a Blue background would make more sense then a Red background for visibility.

Scott McDonald 


Re: Manure shipped by rail

Philip Dove
 

The fibre in the real thing is way out of scale. But some soft and moist manure hidden near the trackside could add the dimension of smell. 


Re: Color recommendation for post 1945-1950 painted GN SS single door boxcar

Todd Sullivan
 

Charlie,

What intrigues me is the old 1930s-40s herald on that GN USRA (or USRA copy) boxcar ... in 1956!

Todd Sullivan


Re: Color recommendation for post 1945-1950 painted GN SS single door boxcar / more PGE info

Todd Sullivan
 

Charlie,

I heartily agree.  In fact, the whole PGE was a tough piece of railroading.  There's a great soft cover book about the PGE and how it was built, plus the trials and tribulations of keeping it open and going.  The book is "In The Ditch" by Eric Prince Stathers.  Mr. Stathers was the PGE's Wrecking Foreman and Superintendent 1929-1965.  It's an easy and fascinating read.

Todd Sullivan


Re: Color recommendation for post 1945-1950 painted GN SS single door boxcar

Charlie Duckworth
 

Great color; what a lousy place to clean up a derailment. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: D&H P-S Box Car Decals

mopacfirst
 

Not about the decals, but it looks like they learned from Pennsy about the layout of weight and dimensional data.  Just got done with three PRR cars, X26C, X29B and X29D, used Microscale decals.  Not one of the easiest decal jobs I ever did, especially the X29D where the Microscale set, 1201 I think, actually had separate dimensional data decal blocks for all ten or so of the listed dimensions.

Ron Merrick

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