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Re: Roundhouse 50' SS DD

al_brown03
 

Make that Roundhouse and *Walthers*.


Re: Roundhouse 50' SS DD

al_brown03
 

Hi Clark, 

Richard Hendrickson (I think) did an article (in RMJ?) on the Roundhouse and MDC 50' SS double-door boxcars ... listing features for various roads. I'll look it up when I get home tonight, if someone doesn't beat me to it. I *think* your answer is "yes" but want to check.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Milwaukee USRA SS (faded) boxcar color question

Charlie Duckworth
 

I’ve just finished a Westerfield USRA SS boxcar and have decals to finish it as a Milwaukee RR car.  I’d like to finish as a car that’s been in service 15+ years so looking for some suggestions on using Tru-Color paints to obtain a faded boxcar finish.  

Thanks 
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Roundhouse 50' SS DD

Clark Propst
 

I recently picked up a WP Roundhouse 50' single sheathed, with steel double doors. Didn't notice the model had a auto door in one end till I got home. Is it still good for WP?
Thanks for all replies,
Clark Propst


Re: Photo: Alton Aluminum Boxcar 1200

Clark Propst
 

I know the M&StL versions had hollow axles for lighter weight, maybe they all did? They were an issue. the axle would suck the waste out of the journal box resulting in hot boxes.
Clark Propst


Re: Milwaukee Rib-side boxcars

Clark Propst
 

Besides Accurail's old Ribside Cars Exactrail is re-releasing their version. Saw them at the StL RPM.
Clark Propst


Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Interesting three dome tank car St Louis 23rd St yard

Bruce Smith
 

Scott,

A large group of two-dome, single compartment tank cars were built in the US during WWII for service in Europe. This was done to provide enough dome capacity while allowing the domes to meet clearences. While there has been some discussion as to whether any of these saw service in the US, they were moved on their wheels to ports of embarkation so they did traverse US rails. 

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL 


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While some multi _manway_ single compartment tank cars have been built since 1960, for phosphorus for instance, I can't recall ever seeing a multi _dome_ single compartment tank car.  Can't say that such did not exist, but if such did exist I'd love to see a photo.  

This is not to say that all the compartments of a multi-compartment tank could not be used for the same product.  Probably happened a lot during the war years.

Yes, dome-less non-pressure tanks (spec ICC-111) were built before 1960, first by Union Tank in 1956 IIRC, they were not by any means common until after 1960.

Scott Chatfield


Re: Interesting three dome tank car St Louis 23rd St yard

Tim O'Connor
 


more to the point dome-less pressure tanks were built decades earlier
although whether any of them were multi-compartment I don't know


On 9/21/2021 10:22 PM, D. Scott Chatfield wrote:
While some multi _manway_ single compartment tank cars have been built since 1960, for phosphorus for instance, I can't recall ever seeing a multi _dome_ single compartment tank car.  Can't say that such did not exist, but if such did exist I'd love to see a photo.  

This is not to say that all the compartments of a multi-compartment tank could not be used for the same product.  Probably happened a lot during the war years.

Yes, dome-less non-pressure tanks (spec ICC-111) were built before 1960, first by Union Tank in 1956 IIRC, they were not by any means common until after 1960.

Scott Chatfield



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Interesting three dome tank car St Louis 23rd St yard

D. Scott Chatfield
 

While some multi _manway_ single compartment tank cars have been built since 1960, for phosphorus for instance, I can't recall ever seeing a multi _dome_ single compartment tank car.  Can't say that such did not exist, but if such did exist I'd love to see a photo.  

This is not to say that all the compartments of a multi-compartment tank could not be used for the same product.  Probably happened a lot during the war years.

Yes, dome-less non-pressure tanks (spec ICC-111) were built before 1960, first by Union Tank in 1956 IIRC, they were not by any means common until after 1960.

Scott Chatfield


Re: Milwaukee Rib-side boxcars

 

SWEET!

 

 

Thanks!
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Brian Ehni

 

 

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Milwaukee Rib-side boxcars

 

I believe the announcement that is being asked about is from Exactrail - https://exactrail.com/blogs/announcements/coming-soon-new-paint-schemes-and-road-numbers-of-the-ho-scale-3839-ribside-boxcar

 

It was announced in July.

 

Robert Bogie 


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Accurail?

 

 

Thanks!
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Milwaukee Rib-side boxcars

 

I would have sworn I recently saw an announcement of a upcoming release from someone (Rapido or Exact-Rail or ?) of the classic Milwaukee rib-sided boxcars in HO RTR.
I even recall perusing a website that had details, etc, yet I can't find any information on the interweebs now.
Am I losing my marbles?
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: Milwaukee Rib-side boxcars

robertb@smartchat.net.au
 

I believe the announcement that is being asked about is from Exactrail - https://exactrail.com/blogs/announcements/coming-soon-new-paint-schemes-and-road-numbers-of-the-ho-scale-3839-ribside-boxcar

It was announced in July.

Robert Bogie 



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Accurail?

 

 

Thanks!
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Milwaukee Rib-side boxcars

 

I would have sworn I recently saw an announcement of a upcoming release from someone (Rapido or Exact-Rail or ?) of the classic Milwaukee rib-sided boxcars in HO RTR.
I even recall perusing a website that had details, etc, yet I can't find any information on the interweebs now.
Am I losing my marbles?
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA

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Re: Milwaukee Rib-side boxcars

Jeff Helm
 

Intermountain is taking reservations for theirs in several schemes, and Accurail has announced a few kits recently (from the former Ribside Car tooling).  Not sure of anyone else doing them in HO.
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Jeff Helm
The Olympic Peninsula Branch
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Re: Milwaukee Rib-side boxcars

 

http://www.accurail.com/accurail/3900.htm

 

 

Thanks!
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Brian Ehni

 


Re: Milwaukee Rib-side boxcars

 

Accurail?

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of radiodial868 <radiodial57@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 7:39 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Milwaukee Rib-side boxcars

 

I would have sworn I recently saw an announcement of a upcoming release from someone (Rapido or Exact-Rail or ?) of the classic Milwaukee rib-sided boxcars in HO RTR.
I even recall perusing a website that had details, etc., yet I can't find any information on the interweebs now.
Am I losing my marbles?
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Milwaukee Rib-side boxcars

radiodial868
 

I would have sworn I recently saw an announcement of a upcoming release from someone (Rapido or Exact-Rail or ?) of the classic Milwaukee rib-sided boxcars in HO RTR.
I even recall perusing a website that had details, etc., yet I can't find any information on the interweebs now.
Am I losing my marbles?
--
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: Interesting three dome tank car St Louis 23rd St yard

Tony Thompson
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:

Tony
That's absurd. If domes had no purpose, they would not be there. They certainly do matter.
As usual, you ignore my point. The car exists to carry cargo. It does so in its compartments. Yes, Tim, OF COURSE it had domes (back in the day). Guess what, it had trucks, couplers., underframe, all kindza stuff to help do its job. That was never in dispute. But if a person chooses to focus on the USE of the car, it’s about the cargo.

Tony Thompson
tony@signaturepress.com


Re: Interesting three dome tank car St Louis 23rd St yard

Tim O'Connor
 

Tony

That's absurd. If domes had no purpose, they would not be there. They certainly do matter.

Tim

On 9/21/2021 2:54 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
Tim O'Connor wrote:

I disagree Tony. A 3 dome car USUALLY has 3 compartments, but a 3 compartment tank car does not
necessarily have 3 domes. And construction of no-dome cars began well before the end of the STMFC era.

Not sure I get your point. If we are interested in what freight cars DO, then the compartments matter, and the domes don’t. If you are just a car-spotter or collector of train models, I guess the number of domes would be the visual marker you would want.

Tony Thompson


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Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: IC Slogan Date

Tim O'Connor
 


Ok thanks Jeff

On 9/21/2021 2:33 PM, Jeffrey White wrote:

Tim,

The diagram for 3600 says it was built in 1946.

Jeff White

Alma, IL

On 9/21/2021 7:14 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Jeff

I think this is a 1948 photo, but perhaps not.

Tim O'Connor

On 9/20/2021 10:30 PM, Jeffrey White wrote:

Mainline of Mid-America started appearing on repaints and new cars in 1947. 

Jeff White

Alma IL

On 9/20/2021 9:26 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote:

When did IC start using the Mainstreet of Mid-America slogan on repaints of the 18000 series square corner boxcars?

 

Nelson Moyer




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Sterling, Massachusetts


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Re: PFE wood ice reefer underframes

O Fenton Wells
 

Not sure if too simple is correct, in my mind it's more bettendorf and built up, the two types of U/F's that were used. Then fixing which model maker makes which UF. Which is which; Red Caboose, Tichy, Sunshine,Wegman.
Not sure about Red Caboose or Wegman without looking at reference material not now in front of me.  Tichy I believe is Bettendorf, the Frank Hodina(Sunshine) was built up I think. I believe the main place to look is at the end of the truck frames as they appear out of the u/f.  Someone who really knows should set us on the right path
Fenton

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Date: 9/20/21 1:25 PM (GMT-10:00)
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PFE wood ice reefer underframes

I believe that is correct but FGEX used both as well. Not as prolific as SP/UP but some 
As Bill Welch said FGEX were scavengers, used PRR R-7U/F as well. And others as cars were inherited from joining railroads 
Fenton 


On Sep 20, 2021, at 7:16 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> wrote:







Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PFE wood ice reefer underframes

Hopefully not to oversimplify but rather to establish a practical means of accurately modeling the PFE wood refer fleetcan we establish that :

1)  The Tichey underframe is correct for the WP. refers.

2)   Terry Wegmann's underframe is correct for all other PFE rood refers that did not have Bettendorf frsmes.

3)  Therefore is the Red Caboose  underframe corrrct for cars with the Bettendorf  undeframes.

Too Simple?M]



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Re: Choosing an empty car for loading

John Mateyko
 

During the late 1960s and early 1970s, Storage-In-Transit tariffs were used for many food products.  Food item consignees and manufacturers had Assigned Cars.  Two such customers were The Kroger Company and whatever the sugar manufacturing company is on the same industrial spur in Roanoke.  The cars assigned to Kroger were used between the caves at Bonner Springs, Kansas(on UP track) for canned goods to Roanoke.  When empty the N&W DF cars would return empty to Bonner Springs.  The sugar processing company a half mile away on the same track used its N&W DF cars to send loads to the cave and when empty those cars would be returned empty to Roanoka.  Kroger N&W DF cars loaded to Roanoke, sugar N&W DF cars loaded to Bonner Springs.  Anyone can see it would be logical to spot the empty cars from the Kroger facility to the sugar company for loading.  Then take the loaded car(s) to Bonner Springs, unload and reload them(without moving them one foot) for Kroger in Roanoke. Guess what sports fan, no way would the N&W do that.  John Mateyko

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