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Westerfield Milwaukee USRA SS boxcar off the bench

Charlie Duckworth
 


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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


looking for Sunshine instructions

Tim O'Connor
 


I've misplaced the instructions for kit H.2 - the "crated machinery" load. Are the instructions online
somewhere or has someone here got a PDF with the instructions?

Thanks!

Tim O'Connor


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Roundhouse 50' SS DD

Ken Adams
 

I have taken to wearing a thick glove on my left hand (I am right handed) when slicing off plastic cast on detail.  Too many slips and a run for the band-aid box.

Also look beyond the Exacto blades to UMM chisels and scrapers, OLFA tools and the narrower X-17a blade.

Now if I could only keep the #78-79 drill bits from breaking for drilling the replacement mounting holes.  I have probably tried every suggestion in the pages of this group dating back to Yahoo groups and other web pages and magazine articles and not found any foolproof method that works for me. 
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Ken Adams
Still in splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io


Re: Minneapolis & St. Louis Box Car 18972

Tony Thompson
 

Very nice build, Lester, and a terrific description and illustration of how you went about it. Well worth reading for any modeler!

Tony Thompson
tony@signaturepress.com


Re: Minneapolis & St. Louis Box Car 18972

Nelson Moyer
 

Beautiful build, Lester. Westerfield has a plethora of single sheathed boxcar kits for those who haven’t explored their catalog, and they build into eye-catching models, especially when coupled between two post-war steel boxcars.

 

Nelson Moyer

 


Re: Bob Ross ‘Happy Roofs’

Nelson Moyer
 

Can’t beat modeling from color photos. Very nice. Please post another photo after Dullcote, etc. for comparison.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 8:35 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Bob Ross ‘Happy Roofs’

 

I found this heavily weather roof in some shots posted of trains around St Louis Union Station and thought I’d try and replicate it on the Westerfield boxcar I’m working on.  Used the water based oils (black, white and blue) and painted the individual panels in different shades.  I came back and added the white as shown in the prototype image.  After the oils dry I’ll seal with Dullcote and add some black pigment.   In a few shots I used a Q-tip to remove some of the gray to let the original color to show through. 



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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Bob Ross ‘Happy Roofs’

James Brewer
 

Outstanding work Charlie! I'd love to see a live demonstration of your technique, perhaps on a future 20/20 Hindsight event.

Jim Brewer

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 10:19 AM Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Excellent work Charlie.
Paul Doggett.    England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 23 Sep 2021, at 14:38, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:



I found this heavily weather roof in some shots posted of trains around St Louis Union Station and thought I’d try and replicate it on the Westerfield boxcar I’m working on.  Used the water based oils (black, white and blue) and painted the individual panels in different shades.  I came back and added the white as shown in the prototype image.  After the oils dry I’ll seal with Dullcote and add some black pigment.   In a few shots I used a Q-tip to remove some of the gray to let the original color to show through. 

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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Bob Ross ‘Happy Roofs’

Paul Doggett
 

Excellent work Charlie.
Paul Doggett.    England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 23 Sep 2021, at 14:38, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:



I found this heavily weather roof in some shots posted of trains around St Louis Union Station and thought I’d try and replicate it on the Westerfield boxcar I’m working on.  Used the water based oils (black, white and blue) and painted the individual panels in different shades.  I came back and added the white as shown in the prototype image.  After the oils dry I’ll seal with Dullcote and add some black pigment.   In a few shots I used a Q-tip to remove some of the gray to let the original color to show through. 

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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Bob Ross ‘Happy Roofs’

Tim O'Connor
 


excellent !! 😁

On 9/23/2021 9:35 AM, Charlie Duckworth wrote:

I found this heavily weather roof in some shots posted of trains around St Louis Union Station and thought I’d try and replicate it on the Westerfield boxcar I’m working on.  Used the water based oils (black, white and blue) and painted the individual panels in different shades.  I came back and added the white as shown in the prototype image.  After the oils dry I’ll seal with Dullcote and add some black pigment.   In a few shots I used a Q-tip to remove some of the gray to let the original color to show through.

Charlie Duckworth

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Minneapolis & St. Louis Box Car 18972

Lester Breuer
 

I have completed the build of a Westerfield Models single sheathed Fowler design box car,  I numbered 18972.  My build included adding reinforcing braces to side corners, new “B” end details, wire grabs, ladders and ladder rungs, etc. And, Minneapolis & St. Louis (M&St.L) lettering and paint.  If you are interested, photos and write up are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.  If would like to take a look please do at the following link:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

 

Lester Breuer

 


Bob Ross ‘Happy Roofs’

Charlie Duckworth
 

I found this heavily weather roof in some shots posted of trains around St Louis Union Station and thought I’d try and replicate it on the Westerfield boxcar I’m working on.  Used the water based oils (black, white and blue) and painted the individual panels in different shades.  I came back and added the white as shown in the prototype image.  After the oils dry I’ll seal with Dullcote and add some black pigment.   In a few shots I used a Q-tip to remove some of the gray to let the original color to show through. 



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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Roundhouse 50' SS DD

Tim O'Connor
 

Ron

No, sadly. Don't we wish Athearn would revise the tooling (as they have done with several other
models!) and replace all of the molded on grabs and ladders with wire and stand off details??

At the time of the RMJ article I asked Richard about the arduous task of removing all that detail
with an X-Acto blade, and he just laughed! To anyone who has done it successfully, you know what
I'm talking about. 😂

Tim O'Connor

On 9/22/2021 8:04 PM, mopacfirst wrote:
I did one, right when the Roundhouse kit first came out, as an MP 86000-86149 car.  The model has wire grabs and separate ladders. I really don't remember carving this detail off the model.  Was it ever available with separate details?

Ron Merrick
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: Milwaukee USRA SS (faded) boxcar color question

Tim O'Connor
 

Pre-shading is a good idea, but if it's not possible (RTR lettering) then post-shading by touching up
unlettered areas of the car works almost as well. :-)

Tim O'Connor

On 9/22/2021 9:30 PM, steve_wintner via groups.io wrote:
Fading should be somewhat uneven, seems to me.the plastic models community has widely adopted the idea of pre-shading, following with an overall coat. That can of course be followed with various washes & oversprays.

By pre-shading, i mean some areas are light (e g. Grey primer) and overs sprayed with darker or lighter shades. (E.g. the roof would be lighter, under the eaves & along the Z braces darker). This leads to a slight but visible variation in the overall color, which can then be followed with further efforts.

I've not tried myself, but I've seen enough to be offering the suggestion Charlie.

Steve
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: Milwaukee USRA SS (faded) boxcar color question

steve_wintner
 

Fading should be somewhat uneven, seems to me.the plastic models community has widely adopted the idea of pre-shading, following with an overall coat. That can of course be followed with various washes & oversprays. 

By pre-shading, i mean some areas are light (e g. Grey primer) and overs sprayed with darker or lighter shades. (E.g. the roof would be lighter, under the eaves & along the Z braces darker). This leads to a slight but visible variation in the overall color, which can then be followed with further efforts. 

I've not tried myself, but I've seen enough to be offering the suggestion Charlie.

Steve


Re: Roundhouse 50' SS DD

mopacfirst
 

I did one, right when the Roundhouse kit first came out, as an MP 86000-86149 car.  The model has wire grabs and separate ladders.  I really don't remember carving this detail off the model.  Was it ever available with separate details?

Ron Merrick


Re: Roundhouse 50' SS DD

Eric Hansmann
 

The MDC/Roundhouse 50-foot single-sheathed boxcars have have been featured a few times on the RCW blog. Here are the direct links. 

Fenton Wells

Fred Jansz


Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


On Sep 22, 2021, at 4:42 PM, Scott <repairman87@...> wrote:

The photo of the model of the WP car with 15' door was built by Fred Jansz from the Roundhouse kit.  He did a great write up on it on Facebook WP modelers group and I think here too.  

Scott McDonald 


Re: Roundhouse 50' SS DD

Scott
 

The photo of the model of the WP car with 15' door was built by Fred Jansz from the Roundhouse kit.  He did a great write up on it on Facebook WP modelers group and I think here too.  

Scott McDonald 


Re: Milwaukee USRA SS (faded) boxcar color question

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

The Rapido product that I referenced is called Proto Paint Flat Haze.  The article was in the April 2020 RMC.  It was by Paul Dutka.

Bill Pardie



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From: WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...>
Date: 9/22/21 7:39 AM (GMT-10:00)
To: "main@realstmfc.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Milwaukee USRA SS (faded) boxcar color question

Rapid offered a product to sprayu on a finished casr to replicate fading paint.  Ir qas covered in an RMC article about two years ago.  Rapido always seemed to be out of the item but I found]\one in a hobby shop in Canada.  I have not tried it as yet.

Bill Pardie

On Sep 22, 2021, at 2:11 AM, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:

I’ve just finished a Westerfield USRA SS boxcar and have decals to finish it as a Milwaukee RR car.  I’d like to finish as a car that’s been in service 15+ years so looking for some suggestions on using Tru-Color paints to obtain a faded boxcar finish.  

Thanks 
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.



Re: SLRX 25034

Bob Chaparro
 

Bill Keene commented about SRLX 25034.

“The car is really silver. The shade seen in the photo (an Ektachrome slide) is actually the car as it was received when donated to the Kansas City Railroad Museum. It is rather dirty. It was later wished off to reveal the silver paint. As the car was clean and dry it was used to store the higher valued items that the museum did not have the space to display.

I believe the car still had the cooling equipment in place. The fuel tanks were almost full when the museum received the car.

The KCRM had a number of reefers. The gift shop was installed into one of them—WCLX 2711, a Wilson meat reefer. Others provided display space and general storage space—URTX 26679 was one put to this use. I had hoped to get all of the reefers in line on a single track in build order and tell the story of each but this never became a reality.

I was most familiar with the WCLX 2711 as I was managing the Gift Shop. After cleaning the car out it made a grand space. Left the meat rails in place. I may have a picture or two of this car including the interior. The car received a good deal of TLC. It was washed and waxed—good old Turtle Wax—twice a year. I was the target of a good deal of ribbing about waxing a freight car.”

As to the Kansas City Railroad Museum, don’t go to Kansas City expecting to see these cars. I found this explanation on the ‘net:

“The Kansas City Railroad Museum was a museum located in Kansas City, Missouri. It was operated by the Smoky Hill Railway and Historical Society. Founded in 1964, the museum was initially located at Troug-Nichols siding in Lenexa, Kansas followed by the "house track" in downtown Lenexa, Kansas until 1973. Expansion forced them to move north of downtown Kansas City, Missouri, at 226 West 3rd Street to the Kansas City Southern "old team track" in the River Quay area. They were forced to move to Richards-Gebaur Air Force Base and five other locations in October 1980. They moved again to Belton, Missouri, about 1995 where they started operations with reporting marks SHRX. Later, they changed the name to Belton, Grandview and Kansas City Railroad.

As of February 1987, the museum roster included 3 steam locomotives, 8 diesel locomotives, 1 gas turbine-electric locomotive, 1 trolley car, 9 freight cars, 4 cabooses, 1 rotary snowplow, 6 special service cars, and 21 passenger cars. Eleven were privately owned.”

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railway Bull Shippers Group

https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup


PRR 275458 class GR composite gon 1918 Portland OR with rail load

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
PRR 275458 class GR composite gon 1918 Portland OR with rail load
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund

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