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Re: Funaro and Camerlengo B&O Boxcar

Bill Keene
 

I remember noticing back in the middle of the 20th Century that freight cars from eastern railroads that may have tended to be spending most of their time in the northeast tended to be somewhat dirtier than those freight cars that wandered around the middle west and western portions of the country. This one looks like it had spend a great deal of time in the steel belt.

Cutting to the chase… I like it. Nice contrast with other rolling stock. There is one of these kits on the shelf … and now there is an example to work toward.

Thanks for sharing your always good work.

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA

On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:21 AM, Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi
I have just finished a Funaro and Camerlengo B&O M15L boxcar it’s in bad need of ops repaint I am afraid my weathering is no where near that of Charlie Duckworths
Paul Doggett England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿





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Re: Tamiya Thinner Question

Craig Zeni
 

That's exactly what I'm doing. The Tamiya lacquer thinner doesn't smell like any lacquer thinner I've ever seen. It works superbly and the airbrushed finish dries very quickly.


Re: Funaro and Camerlengo B&O Boxcar

Paul Doggett
 

Jay 

Thank you.

Paul Doggett.


On 27 Sep 2021, at 06:31, jstyron <jstyron@...> wrote:

Paul,
It looks properly nasty to me! Good job.
-Jay Styron


Re: Funaro and Camerlengo B&O Boxcar

Jay Styron
 

Paul,
It looks properly nasty to me! Good job.
-Jay Styron


Re: Virginian high-side gondola

Steve Summers
 

Richard:

By 1955 there would have been only one class of Virginian 12 panel gondolas, class G-1A (Bobs Photo):



There were also very similar looking class G-6 high side gondolas, but these had an extra pair of ribs added to the last side panels next to the grab irons making them 14 panel gondolas (N&WHS archives photo):





On Sep 26, 2021, at 4:08 PM, Richard Townsend via groups.io <richtownsend@...> wrote:


In Allen Copeland's Denver & Rio Grande Western Color Pictorial - Volume One (p. 51) there is a September 1955 photo at Tabernash, CO, that appears to include a Virginian high-side gondola. The car has 12-panel sides that are not offset (i.e. not like the F&C VGN gondola). In my limited resources I have only been able to find photos of VGN offset-side gons. Can anyone enlighten me about what this car might be and what its characteristics are?

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


Virginian high-side gondola

Richard Townsend
 

In Allen Copeland's Denver & Rio Grande Western Color Pictorial - Volume One (p. 51) there is a September 1955 photo at Tabernash, CO, that appears to include a Virginian high-side gondola. The car has 12-panel sides that are not offset (i.e. not like the F&C VGN gondola). In my limited resources I have only been able to find photos of VGN offset-side gons. Can anyone enlighten me about what this car might be and what its characteristics are?

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


Re: Tamiya Thinner Question

Nelson Moyer
 

Thanks to all who offered suggestions and links. The question has been answered.

 

Nelson Moyer


Re: Tamiya Thinner Question

Robert J Miller CFA
 

This is what Andy of Andy’s Hobby Headquarters suggests. I’ve tried it with a new bottle of Tamiya paint and sprayed with my Iwata HP-CS with no issues.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQsXFl3yLho

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nelson Moyer
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 10:42 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Tamiya Thinner Question

 

This may be off topic, but I have several freight car under construction, and I’d like to move away from Dullcote. I have bottles of Tamiya X-20A acrylic thinner, but no thinning instructions are on the label, and I can’t find thinning instructions on their web site. What’s the paint to thinner ratio for Tamiya products for airbrushing?

 

Nelson Moyer


Re: Tamiya Thinner Question

loumickie
 

Nelson,

I have also had very good results using Mr. Color Leveling Thinner with Tamiya paint. Many of the military modeling crowd use this as a go to, I mix it roughly 50/50 and spray it with my Iwata HP-CP at 20 psi.

Lou


Re: Westerfield Milwaukee USRA SS boxcar off the bench

Tim O'Connor
 


? Charlie you just described chipping. Base color, with overlays. I know you didn't use masking (obviously not
necessary if you're good enough!) but I was only saying that it is another means to the same end.

Tim O'Connor


On 9/26/2021 12:50 AM, Charlie Duckworth wrote:
Tim
I’ve used chipping on models but this method is the opposite.  The base color is laid down first and the oil paints are then painted on top. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Roundhouse 50' SS DD

Tim O'Connor
 


Better, except for the death of the retail hobby shops with a few exceptions. That is an aspect of the
hobby that I sorely miss. Even mail order (i.e. reservations) has gotten to be very complicated, esp when
delivery times stretch out more than a year. :-(

Tim O'Connor


On 9/25/2021 11:17 PM, Andy Carlson wrote:

As modelers, we have always felt happy with the best available model until a better one comes along. All of the earlier Sunshine, Westerfield and F&C single sheathed cars had deep and wide groves which made, in my opinion, horrible car sides but many bought them with gleeful pride. Then the better scribed techniques came out in various attempts to mitigate unrealistic car sides with differing results. Richard Hendricksen said it well when he stated that the "Good Old Days of modeling is today". The pure joy I felt upon my viewing of the then new Kadee PS-1 box cars prompted me to state that these box cars were the best HO freight cars to that point. And things are continuing to get better!
-Andy


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Tamiya Thinner Question

Nelson Moyer
 

X-20A is acrylic thinner, while X-20 is lacquer thinner. Are you thinning acrylic paint with lacquer thinner?

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Craig Zeni
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 8:46 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tamiya Thinner Question

 

Roughly 50/50. But X20A is my third favorite for thinning Tamiya.  I prefer either the Tamiya brand of lacquer thinner, or the amazing Mr Color Self Leveling Thinner.


Re: Tamiya Thinner Question

Craig Zeni
 

Roughly 50/50. But X20A is my third favorite for thinning Tamiya.  I prefer either the Tamiya brand of lacquer thinner, or the amazing Mr Color Self Leveling Thinner.


Re: Tamiya Thinner Question

Scott
 

Nelson,

Give Luckys Varnish a try too.  It comes in gloss, satin, Matt, extra Matt.  It is acrylic and comes pre thinned ready to go.  Get some plastic spoons and prime and paint the back sides then practice with the clears.  The extra Matt is dead flat with minimal color shift.  There are instructions on the product page on psi and distance.  It comes in various sizes so get the little 17mil bottles to see if you like it.  It is readily available on Ebay.

https://www.migjimenez.com/en/auxiliary-products-glues/1497-matt-lucky-varnish-17-ml.html

Scott McDonald 


Re: Tamiya Thinner Question

steve_wintner
 


Re: Westerfield Milwaukee USRA SS boxcar off the bench

Charlie Duckworth
 

Tim
I’ve used chipping on models but this method is the opposite.  The base color is laid down first and the oil paints are then painted on top. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Roundhouse 50' SS DD

Andy Carlson
 



Actually, my decision to start work on this car had nothing to do for improving the MDC WP 50'car; as the MDC car wasn't released until I had finished the work on my  own resin 50' WP car.  I am a decades-long advocate for finer (read as more realistic) wood siding replications.

I hope to have finished results from a long-stalled double wood sheath resin box car. I experimented with a technique which makes for a better appearing look which is meeting expectations beyond my initial hopes. It is of a box car which I think several were brought over to Hawaii for the war effort. I will take photos.

As modelers, we have always felt happy with the best available model until a better one comes along. All of the earlier Sunshine, Westerfield and F&C single sheathed cars had deep and wide groves which made, in my opinion, horrible car sides but many bought them with gleeful pride. Then the better scribed techniques came out in various attempts to mitigate unrealistic car sides with differing results. Richard Hendricksen said it well when he stated that the "Good Old Days of modeling is today". The pure joy I felt upon my viewing of the then new Kadee PS-1 box cars prompted me to state that these box cars were the best HO freight cars to that point. And things are continuing to get better!
-Andy



Andy has always been critical  of the deep board separations  This prompted him to do the castings.

Bill Pardie





Has anyone found a good technique for filling in the overly thick "board" grooves ? Between that and carving off grabs, I've avoided this and many other plastic cars...

I've wondered if Mr. Hobby Surfacer would do the trick but have too many other tasks on the list ...

Steve
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Tamiya Thinner Question

Nelson Moyer
 

This may be off topic, but I have several freight car under construction, and I’d like to move away from Dullcote. I have bottles of Tamiya X-20A acrylic thinner, but no thinning instructions are on the label, and I can’t find thinning instructions on their web site. What’s the paint to thinner ratio for Tamiya products for airbrushing?

 

Nelson Moyer


Re: Intermountain Santa Fe Refrigerator car - in kit form

Bob Chaparro
 

Bill Messecar commented:
"
You may want to make people aware that the Rr-21 is not correct as this was a new steel car and not a rebuild. The other three classes are fine."
Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Westerfield Milwaukee USRA SS boxcar off the bench

Charlie Duckworth
 

Thanks 

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 5:14 PM Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:
Inspirational, Charlie.  Thank you!
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.

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