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Re: Photo: H.P. Smith Paper Co. Reefer HPSX 100

Ray Hutchison
 

From a court case:  

H.P. Smith is a division of James River Corporation engaged in the business of treating paper with a polyethylene coating for use as freezer wrap and the like. 


Photo: C.A. Burnette Co. Meat Reefer BACX 100 (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: C.A. Burnette Co. Meat Reefer BACX 100 (Undated)

Photo courtesy of the New York Central System Historical Society:

https://nycshs.omeka.net/items/show/130253

Another presumed meat reefer with latch bars for ventilation.

BACX reporting mark assigned to C.A. Burnette Co. Inc./Merchants Despatch Transportation Corp.

C. A. Burnette Co., 827 W. 22nd St., Chicago.

There also was a C.A. Burnett (no final “E”) Co. in Chicago. Confusing!

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railway Bull Shippers Group

https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup


Photo: NP Automobile Boxcar 4914 (End Door)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: NP Automobile Boxcar 4914 (End Door)

Photo from Classic Trains Magazine:

https://www.trains.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/20210930.jpg

Caption:

Northern Pacific no. 4914 is a 50-foot, single-sheathed, double-door car built in the late 1930s and shown here in 1940. Note the Dreadnaught end door. Jay Williams collection”

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: H.P. Smith Paper Co. Reefer HPSX 100

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: H.P. Smith Paper Co. Reefer HPSX 100

Photo courtesy of the New York Central System Historical Society:

https://nycshs.omeka.net/items/show/130249

Anyone know why a paper company would need an ice bunker refrigerator car?

Perhaps for chemicals used in paper making or saleable by-products?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: ERDX/A&P Tea Co. Reefer 12000

Bob Chaparro
 

But what about the latch bars for ventilation?
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: more glue questions

Armand Premo
 

The late Dr Denny Ansbach recommended Barge Cement for such purposes.For what it's worth.Armand Premo


Re: SANTA FE BX 11 & 12's

Scott
 

I have seen photos of BX12s with raised roofs with plywood sides too.  Not sure how many got that treatment.

Scott McDonald 


Re: more glue questions

Jared Harper
 

Amen.  I used it once and was very disapointed.

Jared Harper


Re: Resin kit collection for sale

mel perry
 

she seems to be enjoying herself, too boot
mel perry

On Thu, Oct 7, 2021, 7:40 AM Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:
I have to admire them for not "gouging" on the prices.
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Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: Resin kit collection for sale

Michael Gross
 

I have to admire them for not "gouging" on the prices.
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: Resin kit collection for sale

Douglas Harding
 

Half were gone by the time of their Wed night YouTube video. And yes very good prices.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 9:08 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Resin kit collection for sale

 

Wow.

I missed it - A very nice assortment at very reasonable prices! I'll bet they didn't last long. :-)


On 10/6/2021 3:55 PM, Clark Propst via groups.io wrote:

Caboose Stop Hobbies in Cedar Falls Iowa has this collection of resin kits. I was there today and took photos of them for posting. They host a Zoom Wednesday (today) evening. She will feature these kits tonight. Can be watched on Utube later if you miss tonight. Kits are priced $30, $35. Good hunting  ;  ))

 

 Clark

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: SANTA FE BX 11 & 12's

Tim O'Connor
 


Not to mention the rebuilds of the late 1950's!

Tim O'Connor

On 10/6/2021 8:17 PM, John Barry wrote:
Bill,

In a word, YES!  

The Westerfield kits, nice as they are, represent the original configuration and the 10'6 IH raised roof (12" extension).  There is no represntation of the approximately 1000 Bx-11s and 39 Bx-12s that received the 6" extensions to 10' IH.  Those missing cars are needed.

John Barry
 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Resin kit collection for sale

Tim O'Connor
 

Wow.

I missed it - A very nice assortment at very reasonable prices! I'll bet they didn't last long. :-)


On 10/6/2021 3:55 PM, Clark Propst via groups.io wrote:
Caboose Stop Hobbies in Cedar Falls Iowa has this collection of resin kits. I was there today and took photos of them for posting. They host a Zoom Wednesday (today) evening. She will feature these kits tonight. Can be watched on Utube later if you miss tonight. Kits are priced $30, $35. Good hunting  ;  ))
 
 Clark

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: SANTA FE BX 11 & 12's

Tim O'Connor
 


Nice scene Bill! Looks just like Barstow.  :-)



On 10/6/2021 1:14 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE wrote:


The Westerfiel;d kits make up into nice cars.  Need we more?

Bill Pardie

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Defect Card Holders

Tim O'Connor
 


Scott, there is a defect card on each side of the X29D rebuilds, to the left of the door. So you'll
see them in photos of the L left and R right sides (w respect to brakewheel), but always to the left
of the door.

Tim O'Connor


On 10/6/2021 1:05 PM, Scott H. Haycock wrote:
Tim,
 
I notice that the PRR car has the holder on the right side, relative to the 'A' end. Was that common or just a PRR thing?

Scott Haycock



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Defect Card Holders

Tim O'Connor
 


I think - (I could be mistaken) - that Detail Associates 6213 included a tiny tack board like that.
I'm pretty sure someone made one in HO...


On 10/6/2021 12:49 PM, Scott H. Haycock wrote:
Forgot the image!

Scott Haycock
Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantm
ent

On 10/06/2021 9:32 AM Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> wrote:
 
 
 
Scott,
For 40’ steel box cars, starting in the mid-to-late 1930s Defect Card Holders of the various steel specialty types (Apex, Motor Wheel T-Z, Cheeper, Real, and a few others less common) were most-often located on the right side of the car to either the bolster to side sill connection (i.e., “bolster tab”) or to the left of the door on the side sill door reinforcement between the crossbearer and crosstie. 
 
For 50’ box & auto cars the positioning was typically similar but with a wider range of locations for door reinforcements deeper and/or continuously longer.
 
However, there were exceptions in which the Defect Card Holder was attached to the left side of the car or a location unable to be easily detected on either side of the car, perhaps mounted “out of view” to the back side of the door reinforcement. 
 
Other types of cars such as open and covered hoppers often had the Defect Card Holder attached to the lower left corner of the slope sheet support just above the “B” end bolster.
 
My question to you is “what are you using for the Defect Card Holder?”, as each one had its own distinctive shape.
 
Previous to the steel specialty makes, defect cards were attached to a small piece of wood or to the side itself if made of wood.
 
Regards,
Ed Hawkins
 
On Wednesday, October 6, 2021, 1:55:28 AM CDT, Scott H. Haycock <shhaycock@...> wrote:
 
 
Folks,

In a modeling project I'm working on, I've noticed in my reference photos that all of the defect card holders are located on the bolster tab, on the right side, looking at the 'B' end. 

My question is, was this a standard location, or did it vary by carbuilder, or railroad, etc.

Thanks!

Scott Haycock  

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Tim O'Connor
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Re: SANTA FE BX 11 & 12's

John Barry
 

Bill,

In a word, YES!  

The Westerfield kits, nice as they are, represent the original configuration and the 10'6 IH raised roof (12" extension).  There is no represntation of the approximately 1000 Bx-11s and 39 Bx-12s that received the 6" extensions to 10' IH.  Those missing cars are needed.

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA


707-490-9696 






On Wednesday, October 6, 2021, 01:15:08 PM EDT, WILLIAM PARDIE <pardiew001@...> wrote:




The Westerfiel;d kits make up into nice cars.  Need we more?

Bill Pardie


Re: ATSF BX-11 model

Gerald Henriksen
 

On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 12:39:31 +0000, you wrote:

Rapido offers undec kits as well, which is where this part of the thread started. ?
Sometimes.

Some of their freight cars have kits listed as an order option, some
list a fully assembled model that is either unpainted or painted a
solid colour (like the Procor 5820).

They have in the past stated that undecorated kits can be ordered with
a minimum order of 6(?) units so contacting them if they don't have
kits listed can also be an option (if you don't want 6, then try to
arrange a group order like someone recently was doing for a Rapido
item on an online forum).

But don't expect kits to be available as a stock item, you will really
need to pre-order (and this seems to be true even for resin kits with
some of late selling out quick or being done only to order).


Re: Defect Card Holders

fire5506
 

I am from post PRR, but when I had to fill out a defect card we filled out 3 of them. One went in/on each of the 2 defect card holders, one on each side on opposite ends of the car and the other one you kept and put in the office for record keeping. There are 2 defect card holders per car, one on the right side by #1 truck and on the left side by #2 truck.

Richard Webster


Re: Photo: ERDX/A&P Tea Co. Reefer 12000

nyc3001 .
 

According to Roger Hinman's MDT book, there were some 40' MDT reefers equipped with brine tanks and meat rails for meat service.

This looks quite similar to the MDT 6000 series with square corners, hopefully it can be kitbashed from Sunshine kits of the much less common 8000 series reefer.

-Phil Lee

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