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Re: X-3 Tank Car Rapido

Jared Harper
 

They want to leave something for the modeler to do.

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


Re: GM&O GSC 43' Flat Car Build, Bloomington Shops 1951

Tim O'Connor
 

I have the UP on my workbench. I put support under the deck pieces to bring them up to the
level of the steel braces. The too-thin decks are an eyesore.

Tim O'Connor

On 10/21/2021 6:08 PM, David via groups.io wrote:
but which of the Exactrail cars? wasn't there more than one version?
By fortuitous coincidence, these UP flats are essentially identical to the GM&O cars in question:

https://exactrail.com/products/gsc-42-flat-car-up-1951-as-delivered

David Thompson
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


GM&O GSC 43' Flat Car Build, Bloomington Shops 1951

David
 

but which of the Exactrail cars? wasn't there more than one version?
By fortuitous coincidence, these UP flats are essentially identical to the GM&O cars in question:

https://exactrail.com/products/gsc-42-flat-car-up-1951-as-delivered

David Thompson


Re: I received my Rapido X31s today

westside_joe
 

Did any of your cars come with crooked stirrup steps?   Both of my cars had a couple poorly placed ones.   If so, how could they be corrected?

Thanks,

Joe Piazza


Re: GM&O GSC 43' Flat Car Build, Bloomington Shops 1951

Tim O'Connor
 

but which of the Exactrail cars? wasn't there more than one version?

On 10/21/2021 3:18 PM, Josh wrote:

I think everybody is a bit confused here. Most of the photographs actually depict the standard 42'6" flatcars that were used in Caterpillar service. From what I have been told, GM&O listed them as 41' flatcars because they measured to the edges of the wood deck rather than total usable space. There are one or two photographs in that list that are not GSC cars, but probably more likely depict rebuilds of cars from other builders. I don't see any 53'6" cars in the photo group.

ExactRail's GSC flatcars are the correct model to represent these.

Josh B
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: GM&O GSC 43' Flat Car Build, Bloomington Shops 1951

Josh
 

I think everybody is a bit confused here. Most of the photographs actually depict the standard 42'6" flatcars that were used in Caterpillar service. From what I have been told, GM&O listed them as 41' flatcars because they measured to the edges of the wood deck rather than total usable space. There are one or two photographs in that list that are not GSC cars, but probably more likely depict rebuilds of cars from other builders. I don't see any 53'6" cars in the photo group.

ExactRail's GSC flatcars are the correct model to represent these.

Josh B


Union Pacific S-40-6 Livestock Cars Available (HO Scale Kit)

Bob Chaparro
 

Union Pacific S-40-6 Livestock Cars Available (HO Scale Kit)

This car is available (limited quantities, some numbers no longer available) in two paint schemes from the Union Pacific Historical Society.

The S-40-6 stock cars were originally built as single deck stock cars when delivered to the UP in 1918. They were re-built starting in 1941 to double deck cars and numbered into the 41000 series. This group of cars represent the Pre-1955 scheme with stripes above and below the car number. The following car numbers are available: 1) 41010D,  2) 41176D, 3) 41285D, 4) 41309D, 5) 41377D, 6) 41419D, 7) 41452D, 8) 41590D, 9) 41616D, 10) 41664D and 11) 41988D. $20.00 per car plus shipping and handling.

https://uphs-store.myshopify.com/collections/models/products/stock-cars

The S-40-6 stock cars were originally built as single deck cars when delivered to the UP in 1918. They were re-built starting in 1941 to double deck cars and numbered into the 41000 series. This group of cars represent the 1955 scheme with no stripes on the car number board. The following car numbers are available: 1) 41005D, 2) 41143D, 3) 41201D, 4) 41244D, 5) 41323D, 6) 41473D, 7) 41531D, 8) 41653D, 9) 41714D, 10) 41840D, 11) 41872D and 12) 41901D. $20.00 per car plus shipping and handling.

https://uphs-store.myshopify.com/collections/models/products/up-s-40-6-1955-scheme

The cars initially were to be made by Red Caboose, who folded during the manufacturing of the cars. Jimmy Booth, a UPHS member and owner of PBL, took over.

They are a flat kit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: X-3 Tank Car Rapido

Bill J.
 

That's Rapido for you.  Strives for accuracy, but, when a problem is found early enough on, they fix it.,  YAY!

Only wish they would offer cars in faded/weathered paint!

Bill Jolitz


Re: Cleaning off my desk

Paul Doggett
 

All good looking Clark.
Paul Doggett 


On 21 Oct 2021, at 15:41, Clark Propst via groups.io <cepropst@...> wrote:

I usually try to work on one model at a time. Beings I had to wait for trucks and mad a stupid goof I also needed to wait for decals for the KCS PS-1. So, I opened the SL_SF Sunshine kit I bought a couple Wednesdays ago. Then  I picked up the P2K CB&Q auto car kit for $6 and picked a assembled Ribside Cars model out of a $5 a car pop flat at a swap meet a couple weeks ago thinking they would take long to finish. I had to do more work to them that I thought, but finally cleared my desk yesterday morning. Just in time to start on basically a scratch building project for Jason Klocke. He wants three of the FDDM&S welded bulkhead flats built after time stops for this list.  

Instead of writing a book detail what I did on each car I think it's best to just answer any questions someone may have.
Clark

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Re: GM&O GSC 53' 6" Flat Car Build, Bloomington Shops 1951

mopacfirst
 

You are correct about the configuration of the kit.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353732688322?epid=1227812656&hash=item525c1c79c2:g:l8AAAOSwXlNhUm3N

Or you can search in eBay for 'Walthers GSC flatcar'.  Some old kits show up, but W must have reissued this product as "assembled".

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174975452947?hash=item28bd598713:g:C-cAAOSwiVRhX9in

But if you want the cast GSC frame only, you can buy any kit and throw out all the other parts.

Ron Merrick


Cleaning off my desk

Clark Propst
 

I usually try to work on one model at a time. Beings I had to wait for trucks and mad a stupid goof I also needed to wait for decals for the KCS PS-1. So, I opened the SL_SF Sunshine kit I bought a couple Wednesdays ago. Then  I picked up the P2K CB&Q auto car kit for $6 and picked a assembled Ribside Cars model out of a $5 a car pop flat at a swap meet a couple weeks ago thinking they would take long to finish. I had to do more work to them that I thought, but finally cleared my desk yesterday morning. Just in time to start on basically a scratch building project for Jason Klocke. He wants three of the FDDM&S welded bulkhead flats built after time stops for this list.  

Instead of writing a book detail what I did on each car I think it's best to just answer any questions someone may have.
Clark


Re: GM&O GSC 53' 6" Flat Car Build, Bloomington Shops 1951

Kenneth Montero
 

The Tichy kit for this car (no.1000) has a separate frame, but does not have as a separate part the portion of the frame that is level with the deck. I believe that the Walthers kit for this car did so, but I don't know if the Walthers kit is still available from Walthers, but that kit should show up on Ebay and other reseller sites.

I am asking others of this group to confirm my recollection of the Walthers kit, as I did not purchase one.

Ken Montero

On 10/21/2021 7:31 AM Ray Hutchison <rayhutchison2@...> wrote:


The photos show a wonderful modeling opportunity, with the flatcar decks being assembled on the two tracks, perhaps add frames on the side, or flatcar with the frames aon the track waiting for assembly.

Only problem: where to purchase a dozen or half of the frames?

Ray Hutchison


Re: GM&O GSC 53' 6" Flat Car Build, Bloomington Shops 1951

Ray Hutchison
 

The photos show a wonderful modeling opportunity, with the flatcar decks being assembled on the two tracks, perhaps add frames on the side, or flatcar with the frames aon the track waiting for assembly.

Only problem: where to purchase a dozen or half of the frames?

Ray Hutchison


Re: X-3 Tank Car Rapido

Dave Boss
 

Hello folks
                  Thank you all for all the input. So I'm to understand the numbers on the UTLX reporting marked cars will be changed to be the correct ones? If so will rapido reanonce the numbering so they can be ordered? Thanks again

Good Day
Dave Boss


On Wednesday, October 20, 2021, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:

Since I am (somewhat) responsible for part of the original question, there were a few, but very few, errors in the UTLX book.  I have created an errata document that I will post on this group’s web site.

 

In particular, the large group of 10,000 gallon tank cars built in  1919 and 1920 had 54” domes, not 60” ones.  This large group of cars have become the prototype for the Rapido model.

 

I hope that this clears up the confusion.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@....io] On Behalf Of Bill Schneider
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 1:52 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] X-3 Tank Car Rapido

 

Well.... Maybe I'll jump in here before this gets too far down the track!

Yep, I goofed. And Steve caught it. I just have not had a chance to rework the numbers as I am buried in a couple of loco projects at the moment.

We WILL fix the problem!

Bill Schneider
Rapido Trains


Re: X-3 Tank Car Rapido

Dave Boss
 

Hi Tim
            I know they offer painted index ones but I don't think any in numbered ones?
Dave


On Wednesday, October 20, 2021, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Thanks for looking into that and letting us know! I think mistakes are a frequent problem
with RTR models and I appreciate the caution. Does Rapido offer any un-numbered cars?

Tim O'Connor

On 10/20/2021 12:47 PM, Dave Boss wrote:
Hello Folks
                    I'm no expert by any means on freight cars, I'm just reaching out to the group to correct me if I'm wrong about this. Rapido has always made a excellent an accurate model of various proto types. However the Rapido features list of X-3 tank cars reads a 54" dome as one of details on the model. I have just went through and checked ALL the UTLX numbers against the X-3 Table-4 in Stephen Hile's UTLX tank car book. I read from the table the following data.
#17550............ is an 8000 gallon car not a 10,000 gallon car
#30443.............is a 60" dome with a screw manway cover not a 54" dome with bolted 2 safety valves All of the rest of the car numbers with any UTLX reporting marks are also 60" domes
Also Rapido doesn't say if the model features 1 or both side dome platforms The numbers chosen have both variations?
           I hope I'm wrong about this, but I just want to hear some of your opinions about this before I order any of these cars Any help is appreciated.

Good Day
Dave Boss



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Re: X-3 Tank Car Rapido

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Since I am (somewhat) responsible for part of the original question, there were a few, but very few, errors in the UTLX book.  I have created an errata document that I will post on this group’s web site.

 

In particular, the large group of 10,000 gallon tank cars built in  1919 and 1920 had 54” domes, not 60” ones.  This large group of cars have become the prototype for the Rapido model.

 

I hope that this clears up the confusion.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Schneider
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 1:52 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] X-3 Tank Car Rapido

 

Well.... Maybe I'll jump in here before this gets too far down the track!

Yep, I goofed. And Steve caught it. I just have not had a chance to rework the numbers as I am buried in a couple of loco projects at the moment.

We WILL fix the problem!

Bill Schneider
Rapido Trains


Re: X-3 Tank Car Rapido

Todd Sullivan
 

Yay!  Go Bill !!

Todd Sullivan


Re: X-3 Tank Car Rapido

Bill Schneider
 

Well.... Maybe I'll jump in here before this gets too far down the track!

Yep, I goofed. And Steve caught it. I just have not had a chance to rework the numbers as I am buried in a couple of loco projects at the moment.

We WILL fix the problem!

Bill Schneider
Rapido Trains


Re: X-3 Tank Car Rapido

Dave Parker
 

The issues concerning consistency between car numbers and physical details were discussed extensively back in September beginning with message 187168.  Bill Schneider is well aware of them and is working closely with Steve Hile to enure maximum fidelity.  These models will be fine.  And yes, they do offer an undec model (I ordered some).
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Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA

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