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Re: GM&O GSC 43' Flat Car Build, Bloomington Shops 1951

Josh
 

The thin decks are a deficiency that has since been fixed. There is no reason to worry about it on future runs - the GSI 53'6" bulkhead flatcars had the new decks and I am told that future releases of the standard flatcar will also have deck sheets of the correct thickness.

If it wasn't obvious by the title of my message, yes, we are referring to what ExactRail called the 42' flatcar. It's actually slightly longer, since 42' is the length of usable deck that Union Pacific listed in their rosters and ORER entries. The GM&O car is exactly the same, but they measured to end of the wood planking instead of ends of the entire deck including the steel framing hence being called a "41-foot car".

Josh B


Photo: Hyman Pickle Company Car #3

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Hyman Pickle Company Car #3

Courtesy of the Barriger Library via “gmpullman”:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/25611551918/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/39450844172/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/38772953064/

The Hymen Pickle Company of Louisville, KY, incorporated in 1903.

The company had a large farm in Medora, KY.

They produced several products. Their Hot Oyster Catsup was one of their top labels.

The Hyman Pickle Company building on Pearl Street between Floyd and Brook, was consumed by fire in 1947. A current Louisville Google map does not show Pearl Street.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: I received my Rapido X31s today

Jeffrey White
 

All three of mine were perfect.

Jeff White

Alma IL

On 10/21/2021 3:22 PM, westside_joe wrote:
Did any of your cars come with crooked stirrup steps?   Both of my cars had a couple poorly placed ones.   If so, how could they be corrected?

Thanks,

Joe Piazza


Re: PRR X31A HO cars for sale

Tim O'Connor
 


Ted, for reasons that passeth understanding whenever I send an email to railsunl@... the
destination address is changed to railsurnl@... !! This causes me to get this error reply:

Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. <railsurnl@...>:
554: 30 Sorry, your message to railsurnl@... cannot be delivered. This mailbox is disabled (554.30).

Do you have another email address I can use? I have tried it multiple times and each time the address is
modified. In 40+ years of emails I have never seen this happen before! 😕

Tim O'Connor


On 10/22/2021 10:41 AM, Ted Schnepf wrote:
Hello,

The Rapido, PRR X31A cars, have arrived, in the circle keystone versions.  Both single and double door, 6 numbers each.  

Will sell individual cars. Contact off list for discount pricing.

Rai8ls Unlimited
Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


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Sterling, Massachusetts


PRR X31A HO cars for sale

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello,

The Rapido, PRR X31A cars, have arrived, in the circle keystone versions.  Both single and double door, 6 numbers each.  

Will sell individual cars. Contact off list for discount pricing.

Rai8ls Unlimited
Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353


Re: X-3 Tank Car Rapido

Jared Harper
 

They want to leave something for the modeler to do.

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


Re: GM&O GSC 43' Flat Car Build, Bloomington Shops 1951

Tim O'Connor
 

I have the UP on my workbench. I put support under the deck pieces to bring them up to the
level of the steel braces. The too-thin decks are an eyesore.

Tim O'Connor

On 10/21/2021 6:08 PM, David via groups.io wrote:
but which of the Exactrail cars? wasn't there more than one version?
By fortuitous coincidence, these UP flats are essentially identical to the GM&O cars in question:

https://exactrail.com/products/gsc-42-flat-car-up-1951-as-delivered

David Thompson
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


GM&O GSC 43' Flat Car Build, Bloomington Shops 1951

David
 

but which of the Exactrail cars? wasn't there more than one version?
By fortuitous coincidence, these UP flats are essentially identical to the GM&O cars in question:

https://exactrail.com/products/gsc-42-flat-car-up-1951-as-delivered

David Thompson


Re: I received my Rapido X31s today

westside_joe
 

Did any of your cars come with crooked stirrup steps?   Both of my cars had a couple poorly placed ones.   If so, how could they be corrected?

Thanks,

Joe Piazza


Re: GM&O GSC 43' Flat Car Build, Bloomington Shops 1951

Tim O'Connor
 

but which of the Exactrail cars? wasn't there more than one version?

On 10/21/2021 3:18 PM, Josh wrote:

I think everybody is a bit confused here. Most of the photographs actually depict the standard 42'6" flatcars that were used in Caterpillar service. From what I have been told, GM&O listed them as 41' flatcars because they measured to the edges of the wood deck rather than total usable space. There are one or two photographs in that list that are not GSC cars, but probably more likely depict rebuilds of cars from other builders. I don't see any 53'6" cars in the photo group.

ExactRail's GSC flatcars are the correct model to represent these.

Josh B
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*Tim O'Connor*
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Re: GM&O GSC 43' Flat Car Build, Bloomington Shops 1951

Josh
 

I think everybody is a bit confused here. Most of the photographs actually depict the standard 42'6" flatcars that were used in Caterpillar service. From what I have been told, GM&O listed them as 41' flatcars because they measured to the edges of the wood deck rather than total usable space. There are one or two photographs in that list that are not GSC cars, but probably more likely depict rebuilds of cars from other builders. I don't see any 53'6" cars in the photo group.

ExactRail's GSC flatcars are the correct model to represent these.

Josh B


Union Pacific S-40-6 Livestock Cars Available (HO Scale Kit)

Bob Chaparro
 

Union Pacific S-40-6 Livestock Cars Available (HO Scale Kit)

This car is available (limited quantities, some numbers no longer available) in two paint schemes from the Union Pacific Historical Society.

The S-40-6 stock cars were originally built as single deck stock cars when delivered to the UP in 1918. They were re-built starting in 1941 to double deck cars and numbered into the 41000 series. This group of cars represent the Pre-1955 scheme with stripes above and below the car number. The following car numbers are available: 1) 41010D,  2) 41176D, 3) 41285D, 4) 41309D, 5) 41377D, 6) 41419D, 7) 41452D, 8) 41590D, 9) 41616D, 10) 41664D and 11) 41988D. $20.00 per car plus shipping and handling.

https://uphs-store.myshopify.com/collections/models/products/stock-cars

The S-40-6 stock cars were originally built as single deck cars when delivered to the UP in 1918. They were re-built starting in 1941 to double deck cars and numbered into the 41000 series. This group of cars represent the 1955 scheme with no stripes on the car number board. The following car numbers are available: 1) 41005D, 2) 41143D, 3) 41201D, 4) 41244D, 5) 41323D, 6) 41473D, 7) 41531D, 8) 41653D, 9) 41714D, 10) 41840D, 11) 41872D and 12) 41901D. $20.00 per car plus shipping and handling.

https://uphs-store.myshopify.com/collections/models/products/up-s-40-6-1955-scheme

The cars initially were to be made by Red Caboose, who folded during the manufacturing of the cars. Jimmy Booth, a UPHS member and owner of PBL, took over.

They are a flat kit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: X-3 Tank Car Rapido

Bill J.
 

That's Rapido for you.  Strives for accuracy, but, when a problem is found early enough on, they fix it.,  YAY!

Only wish they would offer cars in faded/weathered paint!

Bill Jolitz


Re: Cleaning off my desk

Paul Doggett
 

All good looking Clark.
Paul Doggett 


On 21 Oct 2021, at 15:41, Clark Propst via groups.io <cepropst@...> wrote:

I usually try to work on one model at a time. Beings I had to wait for trucks and mad a stupid goof I also needed to wait for decals for the KCS PS-1. So, I opened the SL_SF Sunshine kit I bought a couple Wednesdays ago. Then  I picked up the P2K CB&Q auto car kit for $6 and picked a assembled Ribside Cars model out of a $5 a car pop flat at a swap meet a couple weeks ago thinking they would take long to finish. I had to do more work to them that I thought, but finally cleared my desk yesterday morning. Just in time to start on basically a scratch building project for Jason Klocke. He wants three of the FDDM&S welded bulkhead flats built after time stops for this list.  

Instead of writing a book detail what I did on each car I think it's best to just answer any questions someone may have.
Clark

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Re: GM&O GSC 53' 6" Flat Car Build, Bloomington Shops 1951

mopacfirst
 

You are correct about the configuration of the kit.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353732688322?epid=1227812656&hash=item525c1c79c2:g:l8AAAOSwXlNhUm3N

Or you can search in eBay for 'Walthers GSC flatcar'.  Some old kits show up, but W must have reissued this product as "assembled".

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174975452947?hash=item28bd598713:g:C-cAAOSwiVRhX9in

But if you want the cast GSC frame only, you can buy any kit and throw out all the other parts.

Ron Merrick


Cleaning off my desk

Clark Propst
 

I usually try to work on one model at a time. Beings I had to wait for trucks and mad a stupid goof I also needed to wait for decals for the KCS PS-1. So, I opened the SL_SF Sunshine kit I bought a couple Wednesdays ago. Then  I picked up the P2K CB&Q auto car kit for $6 and picked a assembled Ribside Cars model out of a $5 a car pop flat at a swap meet a couple weeks ago thinking they would take long to finish. I had to do more work to them that I thought, but finally cleared my desk yesterday morning. Just in time to start on basically a scratch building project for Jason Klocke. He wants three of the FDDM&S welded bulkhead flats built after time stops for this list.  

Instead of writing a book detail what I did on each car I think it's best to just answer any questions someone may have.
Clark


Re: GM&O GSC 53' 6" Flat Car Build, Bloomington Shops 1951

Kenneth Montero
 

The Tichy kit for this car (no.1000) has a separate frame, but does not have as a separate part the portion of the frame that is level with the deck. I believe that the Walthers kit for this car did so, but I don't know if the Walthers kit is still available from Walthers, but that kit should show up on Ebay and other reseller sites.

I am asking others of this group to confirm my recollection of the Walthers kit, as I did not purchase one.

Ken Montero

On 10/21/2021 7:31 AM Ray Hutchison <rayhutchison2@...> wrote:


The photos show a wonderful modeling opportunity, with the flatcar decks being assembled on the two tracks, perhaps add frames on the side, or flatcar with the frames aon the track waiting for assembly.

Only problem: where to purchase a dozen or half of the frames?

Ray Hutchison


Re: GM&O GSC 53' 6" Flat Car Build, Bloomington Shops 1951

Ray Hutchison
 

The photos show a wonderful modeling opportunity, with the flatcar decks being assembled on the two tracks, perhaps add frames on the side, or flatcar with the frames aon the track waiting for assembly.

Only problem: where to purchase a dozen or half of the frames?

Ray Hutchison


Re: X-3 Tank Car Rapido

Dave Boss
 

Hello folks
                  Thank you all for all the input. So I'm to understand the numbers on the UTLX reporting marked cars will be changed to be the correct ones? If so will rapido reanonce the numbering so they can be ordered? Thanks again

Good Day
Dave Boss


On Wednesday, October 20, 2021, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:

Since I am (somewhat) responsible for part of the original question, there were a few, but very few, errors in the UTLX book.  I have created an errata document that I will post on this group’s web site.

 

In particular, the large group of 10,000 gallon tank cars built in  1919 and 1920 had 54” domes, not 60” ones.  This large group of cars have become the prototype for the Rapido model.

 

I hope that this clears up the confusion.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@....io] On Behalf Of Bill Schneider
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 1:52 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] X-3 Tank Car Rapido

 

Well.... Maybe I'll jump in here before this gets too far down the track!

Yep, I goofed. And Steve caught it. I just have not had a chance to rework the numbers as I am buried in a couple of loco projects at the moment.

We WILL fix the problem!

Bill Schneider
Rapido Trains


Re: X-3 Tank Car Rapido

Dave Boss
 

Hi Tim
            I know they offer painted index ones but I don't think any in numbered ones?
Dave


On Wednesday, October 20, 2021, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Thanks for looking into that and letting us know! I think mistakes are a frequent problem
with RTR models and I appreciate the caution. Does Rapido offer any un-numbered cars?

Tim O'Connor

On 10/20/2021 12:47 PM, Dave Boss wrote:
Hello Folks
                    I'm no expert by any means on freight cars, I'm just reaching out to the group to correct me if I'm wrong about this. Rapido has always made a excellent an accurate model of various proto types. However the Rapido features list of X-3 tank cars reads a 54" dome as one of details on the model. I have just went through and checked ALL the UTLX numbers against the X-3 Table-4 in Stephen Hile's UTLX tank car book. I read from the table the following data.
#17550............ is an 8000 gallon car not a 10,000 gallon car
#30443.............is a 60" dome with a screw manway cover not a 54" dome with bolted 2 safety valves All of the rest of the car numbers with any UTLX reporting marks are also 60" domes
Also Rapido doesn't say if the model features 1 or both side dome platforms The numbers chosen have both variations?
           I hope I'm wrong about this, but I just want to hear some of your opinions about this before I order any of these cars Any help is appreciated.

Good Day
Dave Boss



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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*





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