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Re: Rapido X31a PRR boxcar - roof question

James E Kubanick
 



On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 3:42 PM nyc3001 . <nyc3001@...> wrote:
I have never seen a photo where an X31a had roof cement even past the end date of this group.

-Phil


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Rapido X31a PRR boxcar - roof question

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Charlie;

 

It is almost impossible to get all cars delivered with no loss of stirrups or grabs.  Easy fix!

 

The model is beautiful!

 

As delivered and through much of service life, they were either Freight Car Color, or FCC over asphaltum.  Late in service life some got asphaltum to minimize roof leaks, but even the early 60’s rebuilts/repaints got FCC over top.

 

The FCC often wore off over time, and the paint on the roof got bled away, the asphaltum got more and more exposed, but with the general deterioration in the carbody, it was hard to tell, unless (like i), you crawled all over them, ruining your new jeans. 

 

If you are modeling cars that have considerable years on the P&L, you might weather like the attached.  Some of the old PRR guys really thought it was realistic.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Rapido X31a PRR boxcar - roof question

 

I picked up the Rapido PRR X31a this morning and noticed the stirrups were all loose. I glued these with some ACC glue.  One of the top grab irons was missing from the ladder to the roof walk and I assume this was also due to lack of glue. I’ll just make a replacement out of wire.   Nice model  

I’m certainly not a PRR expert but would these cars have gotten a black roof cement?  
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Spokane Portland & Seattle Steel Boxcar 12900

Tim O'Connor
 


Amazing in-process coverage of the building and finishing! That's a lot of effort and it's appreciated.

Tim O'Connor

On 10/24/2021 7:08 PM, Lester Breuer wrote:

I have completed the build of a Spokane, Portland & Seattle Steel (SP&S) box car,  I numbered 12900.  My build was done using the recent James Kinkaid article in the August 2021 RMC on this car series.  I cast resin ends, roof and doors, applied car body details, photo etch ladders with wire ladder rungs, under body details, Archer rivets, etc. And, SP&S lettering and paint.  If you are interested, photos and write up are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.  If would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

Lester Breuer



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Rapido X31a PRR boxcar - roof question

nyc3001 .
 

I have never seen a photo where an X31a had roof cement even past the end date of this group.

-Phil


Rapido X31a PRR boxcar - roof question

Charlie Duckworth
 

I picked up the Rapido PRR X31a this morning and noticed the stirrups were all loose. I glued these with some ACC glue.  One of the top grab irons was missing from the ladder to the roof walk and I assume this was also due to lack of glue. I’ll just make a replacement out of wire.   Nice model  

I’m certainly not a PRR expert but would these cars have gotten a black roof cement?  
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Paint scheme for Westerfield #6702 North Western Refrigerator AC&F Type 3 reefer car, NWX

Chuck Cover
 

Thanks to everyone who responded to my request.  I think that I have a good idea on how to proceed with painting and applying decals.

 

Thanks again,

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


Re: GN plywood side boxcars

John Monrad
 

According to GNRHS Reference Sheet No. 171, December 1990, plywood boxcars in series
44075-44174 (and 5 subsequent series in 44175-44899) rode on ASF trucks, noted on equipment diagrams to be A-3 Ride Control.

John Monrad
Blythewood, SC


Re: Spokane Portland & Seattle Steel Boxcar 12900

Lester Breuer
 

David Thank You for the kind words.   I appreciate the reweigh information regarding the “V” on the SP&S for loacation Vancouver, Washington.  I was only aware of the Great Falls, Montana location.  I will add to my list.
Lester Breuer


Re: Spokane Portland & Seattle Steel Boxcar 12900

Paul Doggett
 

Lester 

That’s a great build.
Paul Doggett 


On 25 Oct 2021, at 00:08, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:



I have completed the build of a Spokane, Portland & Seattle Steel (SP&S) box car,  I numbered 12900.  My build was done using the recent James Kinkaid article in the August 2021 RMC on this car series.  I cast resin ends, roof and doors, applied car body details, photo etch ladders with wire ladder rungs, under body details, Archer rivets, etc. And, SP&S lettering and paint.  If you are interested, photos and write up are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.  If would like to take a look please do at the following link:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

 

Lester Breuer

 


Re: Looking for F&C tank car handrail info

Scott H. Haycock
 

Hi Doug.
 
You posted this query on the resin freight car group last W ednesday, and had several answers. Look there. 
 

Scott Haycock
Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantm
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On 10/24/2021 11:35 PM Doug Auburg <cdauburg@...> wrote:
 
 

I tried to post this to the group a couple days ago but it didn’t pop up on my summary emails, so I’m going to try again.  If you’ve already seen this, I apologize.

 

Several months ago I recall seeing a post about someone producing (or planning to produce) brass handrails for an F&C high platform tank car.  I didn’t have one of these models at the time and didn’t save the info.  But last week I scored one on eBay and I’d like to know where to order these replacement handrails.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Doug Auburg


Looking for F&C tank car handrail info

Doug Auburg
 

I tried to post this to the group a couple days ago but it didn’t pop up on my summary emails, so I’m going to try again.  If you’ve already seen this, I apologize.

 

Several months ago I recall seeing a post about someone producing (or planning to produce) brass handrails for an F&C high platform tank car.  I didn’t have one of these models at the time and didn’t save the info.  But last week I scored one on eBay and I’d like to know where to order these replacement handrails.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Doug Auburg


Re: Spokane Portland & Seattle Steel Boxcar 12900

David Turner
 

Lester,

Thank you for the excellent explanation in your blog of your build of such a great looking SP&S car.

You note that the reweigh location code "V" is the Great Northern Ry. code for Great Falls, Montana.  It is also the SP&S Ry. code for reweigh location Vancouver, Washington (the site of their main shops and most frequent reweighs.)

Congratulations on a very fine model.

David Turner, SP&SRHS Modeling Columnist


GN plywood side boxcars

Brian Carlson
 

Reviewing the article in RPC 19, it mentions the 1945 batch had National B-1, ASF A-3 Ride Control, or Barber Stabilized trucks. Has a breakdown on which cars had which type been found? I’ve acquired a Sunshine model of 44105 and am updating it a little. It’s currently on Athearn trucks.

I suspect the information does not exist since Pat would’ve put it in the article if he had it, but 11 years have passed since the article was written.

Brian J. Carlson


--
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: 20 Westerfield Caswell gon kits on Ebay, current price: $99

Steve Stull
 

A  bit challenging to build, but great models.  Congrats on the score!
Yes, I was watching, and my fingers were twitching as it got close :)

Steve Stull
Winslow7076

On Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 03:35:23 AM AKDT, David via groups.io <davidleesnook@...> wrote:


I bought them.  I plan to build all of them this winter.

David Snook
Wichita, KS


Re: Paint scheme for Westerfield #6702 North Western Refrigerator AC&F Type 3 reefer car, NWX

kevinhlafferty
 

That is cool, what’s with the dark circles near the roof line on 501?

 

Kevin Lafferty

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2021 11:41 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint scheme for Westerfield #6702 North Western Refrigerator AC&F Type 3 reefer car, NWX

 

Oh, cool. Look at the lower end of the brake staff on NWX 5094.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Spokane Portland & Seattle Steel Boxcar 12900

Nelson Moyer
 

That’s a lot of work for a distinctive car. And that’s an interesting ladder jig. I may adopt some aspects of that jig.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lester Breuer
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2021 6:08 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Spokane Portland & Seattle Steel Boxcar 12900

 

I have completed the build of a Spokane, Portland & Seattle Steel (SP&S) box car,  I numbered 12900.  My build was done using the recent James Kinkaid article in the August 2021 RMC on this car series.  I cast resin ends, roof and doors, applied car body details, photo etch ladders with wire ladder rungs, under body details, Archer rivets, etc. And, SP&S lettering and paint.  If you are interested, photos and write up are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.  If would like to take a look please do at the following link:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

 

Lester Breuer

 


Spokane Portland & Seattle Steel Boxcar 12900

Lester Breuer
 

I have completed the build of a Spokane, Portland & Seattle Steel (SP&S) box car,  I numbered 12900.  My build was done using the recent James Kinkaid article in the August 2021 RMC on this car series.  I cast resin ends, roof and doors, applied car body details, photo etch ladders with wire ladder rungs, under body details, Archer rivets, etc. And, SP&S lettering and paint.  If you are interested, photos and write up are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.  If would like to take a look please do at the following link:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

 

Lester Breuer

 


Truck Color Questions

Nelson Moyer
 

As a break from building boxcars, I started two RCW gondolas, the MILW 80000 series and the NYC 324000 Series. Both cars were painted freight car red as built. Instructions are silent about truck color, so were they black or freight car color? The MILW rib side cars I built had freight car color trucks, but I don’t know about gondolas

 

Nelson Moyer


Re: Paint scheme for Westerfield #6702 North Western Refrigerator AC&F Type 3 reefer car, NWX

Dennis Storzek
 

Oh, cool. Look at the lower end of the brake staff on NWX 5094.

Dennis Storzek


Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Paint scheme for Westerfield #6702 North Western Refrigerator AC&F Type 3 reefer car, NWX

Bruce Smith
 

Chuck,

The scheme is well represented in RP Cyc, volume 4, if you have that.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
temporarily in Boulder Co.


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...>
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2021 9:40 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Paint scheme for Westerfield #6702 North Western Refrigerator AC&F Type 3 reefer car, NWX
 
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Group,

I now have on order the Westerdield decals for this model but would like some advice on colors for the paint scheme.  I am looking at the original scheme that I believe was gray sides with boxcar red/brown ends and sides.  It also looks like there is a red/brown panel below the door and possibly along the bottom of the sides.  I do not have the Westerfield instructions and cannot find prototype photos.  Any advice would be appreciated.  Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM

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