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Re: New Kit Release from National Scale Car B&O M55's

Bruce Hendrick
 

Nowhere in this email nor in the lengthy product link is there any mention of the scale of these cars.

Bruce Hendrick
Brea, California 


Interesting Running Board Weathering

Bob Chaparro
 

Interesting Running Board Weathering

Photo courtesy of David Smith.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


New Kit Release from National Scale Car B&O M55's

Ryan Mendell
 

I am happy to announce our Newest Kit Release.

Baltimore & Ohio M55, M55A & M55B 40' 1937 ARR Boxcar mini kits.

Between 1940 and 1942, The Baltimore and Ohio took delivery of 1500 40' boxcars from orders split between Pressed Steel Car (M55 series), and Pullman Standard (M55A and M55B series). The orders specified a 10’ interior height and 6’ doors built to the AAR standard but with a few distinguishing features. Both builders used their own proprietary ‘Car Builder’s Ends’. The Pressed Steel Cars had unique 4-5 square corner ends with a stepped flat style rib while the Pullman Standard Cars had 4-5 round corner ends with a tapered rib that wrapped around the round corner  end. All cars were equipped with Duryea cushioned under frames. Two styles of Duryea under frame construction were fitted.  The M55’s and M55A’s used centre sills built up from ship channels while the M55B had a centre sill utilizing a Z26 rolled and welded steel member. All cars were equipped with a flat panel roof with interior car lines that featured a lower flat panel used on the panels closest to the car ends. Both builders supplied Youngstown doors with Camel fixtures.


For further details and purchasing please go to www.nationalscalecar.com

Ryan Mendell
www.nationalscalecar.com


Re: Help with MEC boxcar color - DOOR COLOR?

Marty McGuirk
 

Rich,
I think you’re right - it was an old Paint Shop in MR I was thinking of - on BAR cars.
Thanks!
Marty

On Oct 29, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Rich Gibson via groups.io <richgibson89@...> wrote:

No, you might be thinking of BAR, which had 1932 BCR boxcars with green doors. I’ve never seen anything indicating other that one color on MEC BCR cars.

Rich Gibson





Re: Larry Jackman - was daylight?

Tony Thompson
 

Thanks, Rufus. But that’s the short version. In the long version, Joe was the night yardmaster, he would know the answer, and he hasn’t gone to bed yet. Call him. And Joe says, car of lumber for Memphis. But it’s a tank car, etc. and Joe says, “Send it to Memphis and it’ll be their problem.” Slightly better IMO.

Tony Thompson
tony@...


Re: Help with MEC boxcar color - DOOR COLOR?

Rich Gibson
 

No, you might be thinking of BAR, which had 1932 BCR boxcars with green doors. I’ve never seen anything indicating other that one color on MEC BCR cars.

Rich Gibson


Re: Help with MEC boxcar color

Tim O'Connor
 

The very first green MEC box car was painted in November 1953.

I like this shot because it shows a faded (bluer, not lighter) green box car with a freshly painted car.

On 10/29/2021 4:00 PM, Marty McGuirk wrote:
According to “”Northern New England Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment” (Sweetland/Horsley) “Late in 1953 MEC changed from “boxcar red” to green for its boxcars.” There’s a photo in the book of 50-foot boxcar 9006 in New Haven, Conn. in obviously new paint dated April 1954. From what I can tell if modeling fall of 1953 you can include a very newly painted - shiny(!) - car - but obviously the vast majority of MEC boxcars would still have been BCR!
I used the Speedwitch decals that came in the kit for the BCR scheme.

Marty
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: Help with MEC boxcar color

Tim O'Connor
 


Accupaint #26 MEC Pine Green is an exact match


On 10/29/2021 3:05 PM, Marty McGuirk wrote:
Fenton, 

I just finished up a Speedwitch kit for the MEC version of the 1923 ARA boxcar. Ted provided decals for the BCR and green versions of this car and in the kit instructions he recommended (and used) White Ensign Models “Dull Dark Green” (https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/p/Colourcoats+Dull+Dark+Green+ACUS24/25650/#.YXxDkBDMJR4) for the body color for the green mid 1950s repaints.  

I’ve seen Ted’s model and the color certainly looked right to my eyes. I painted my car in the BCR scheme since the green is too late for my era so I can’t offer share a photo of a green model. 

I have used White Ensign paint in the past and don’t remember anything particularly memorable (ie “bad”) about it!

Hope this helps, 

Marty



On Oct 26, 2021, at 1:20 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

I'm getting ready to do a MEC 1923 ARA (X29) car in the green with yellow logo.  I know TCP makes a green color but I read an article about a better green paint that wsn't a railroad color in a magazine article.  Of course I cannot find the article as my filing system is just too secure.  I should have worked for NSA.
Can anyone help or give a suggestion to a laquer base dark green for this project.
Thanking all in advance
Fenton


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Help with MEC boxcar color

O Fenton Wells
 

By the way Marty there are two excellent photos of the MEC in green in RP CYC vol 18 by Pat Wider on page 102.  
Fenton

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 4:43 PM O Fenton Wells via groups.io <srrfan1401=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have the MEC Speedwitch MEC kit and hadn't looked at the decals close enough.  
Thanks again Marty
Please keep sharing photos of your layout as it is inspiring.
Fenton

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 4:01 PM Marty McGuirk <mjmcguirk@...> wrote:
According to “”Northern New England Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment” (Sweetland/Horsley) “Late in 1953 MEC changed from “boxcar red” to green for its boxcars.” There’s a photo in the book of 50-foot boxcar 9006 in New Haven, Conn. in obviously new paint dated April 1954. From what I can tell if modeling fall of 1953 you can include a very newly painted - shiny(!) - car - but obviously the vast majority of MEC boxcars would still have been BCR!  
I used the Speedwitch decals that came in the kit for the BCR scheme. 

Marty

On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:19 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

By the way I think the green came in in 1953, but I’ve read where it was 55 so not sure if you know let me know. I too will do the brown scheme for my layout since my time ends in fall of 53 so I can run FM H-16-44’s. But I really like the green
Just say’in 
Who’s decals did you use for the brown scheme?
Fenton 


On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:16 PM, O Fenton Wells via groups.io <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Thanks Marty, that’s exactly what I was looking for 
Much appreciated 
Fenton 


On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Marty McGuirk <mjmcguirk@...> wrote:

Fenton, 

I just finished up a Speedwitch kit for the MEC version of the 1923 ARA boxcar. Ted provided decals for the BCR and green versions of this car and in the kit instructions he recommended (and used) White Ensign Models “Dull Dark Green” (https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/p/Colourcoats+Dull+Dark+Green+ACUS24/25650/#.YXxDkBDMJR4) for the body color for the green mid 1950s repaints.  

I’ve seen Ted’s model and the color certainly looked right to my eyes. I painted my car in the BCR scheme since the green is too late for my era so I can’t offer share a photo of a green model. 

I have used White Ensign paint in the past and don’t remember anything particularly memorable (ie “bad”) about it!

Hope this helps, 

Marty



On Oct 26, 2021, at 1:20 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

I'm getting ready to do a MEC 1923 ARA (X29) car in the green with yellow logo.  I know TCP makes a green color but I read an article about a better green paint that wsn't a railroad color in a magazine article.  Of course I cannot find the article as my filing system is just too secure.  I should have worked for NSA.
Can anyone help or give a suggestion to a laquer base dark green for this project.
Thanking all in advance
Fenton




--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Help with MEC boxcar color - DOOR COLOR?

Marty McGuirk
 

One further question on MEC boxcars for the group - somewhere I remember reading the BCR MEC boxcars had green (or black?) doors. I can’t remember where I saw that - perhaps it was an early NEB&W related Paint Shop column in MR? 

Curious if anyone has a source that confirms (or disproves) this. 

Thanks in advance, 

Marty


On Oct 29, 2021, at 4:00 PM, Marty McGuirk <mjmcguirk@...> wrote:

According to “”Northern New England Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment” (Sweetland/Horsley) “Late in 1953 MEC changed from “boxcar red” to green for its boxcars.” There’s a photo in the book of 50-foot boxcar 9006 in New Haven, Conn. in obviously new paint dated April 1954. From what I can tell if modeling fall of 1953 you can include a very newly painted - shiny(!) - car - but obviously the vast majority of MEC boxcars would still have been BCR!  
I used the Speedwitch decals that came in the kit for the BCR scheme. 

Marty

On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:19 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

By the way I think the green came in in 1953, but I’ve read where it was 55 so not sure if you know let me know. I too will do the brown scheme for my layout since my time ends in fall of 53 so I can run FM H-16-44’s. But I really like the green
Just say’in 
Who’s decals did you use for the brown scheme?
Fenton 


On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:16 PM, O Fenton Wells via groups.io <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Thanks Marty, that’s exactly what I was looking for 
Much appreciated 
Fenton 


On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Marty McGuirk <mjmcguirk@...> wrote:

Fenton, 

I just finished up a Speedwitch kit for the MEC version of the 1923 ARA boxcar. Ted provided decals for the BCR and green versions of this car and in the kit instructions he recommended (and used) White Ensign Models “Dull Dark Green” (https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/p/Colourcoats+Dull+Dark+Green+ACUS24/25650/#.YXxDkBDMJR4) for the body color for the green mid 1950s repaints.  

I’ve seen Ted’s model and the color certainly looked right to my eyes. I painted my car in the BCR scheme since the green is too late for my era so I can’t offer share a photo of a green model. 

I have used White Ensign paint in the past and don’t remember anything particularly memorable (ie “bad”) about it!

Hope this helps, 

Marty



On Oct 26, 2021, at 1:20 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

I'm getting ready to do a MEC 1923 ARA (X29) car in the green with yellow logo.  I know TCP makes a green color but I read an article about a better green paint that wsn't a railroad color in a magazine article.  Of course I cannot find the article as my filing system is just too secure.  I should have worked for NSA.
Can anyone help or give a suggestion to a laquer base dark green for this project.
Thanking all in advance
Fenton




Re: Help with MEC boxcar color

O Fenton Wells
 

I have the MEC Speedwitch MEC kit and hadn't looked at the decals close enough.  
Thanks again Marty
Please keep sharing photos of your layout as it is inspiring.
Fenton

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 4:01 PM Marty McGuirk <mjmcguirk@...> wrote:
According to “”Northern New England Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment” (Sweetland/Horsley) “Late in 1953 MEC changed from “boxcar red” to green for its boxcars.” There’s a photo in the book of 50-foot boxcar 9006 in New Haven, Conn. in obviously new paint dated April 1954. From what I can tell if modeling fall of 1953 you can include a very newly painted - shiny(!) - car - but obviously the vast majority of MEC boxcars would still have been BCR!  
I used the Speedwitch decals that came in the kit for the BCR scheme. 

Marty

On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:19 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

By the way I think the green came in in 1953, but I’ve read where it was 55 so not sure if you know let me know. I too will do the brown scheme for my layout since my time ends in fall of 53 so I can run FM H-16-44’s. But I really like the green
Just say’in 
Who’s decals did you use for the brown scheme?
Fenton 


On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:16 PM, O Fenton Wells via groups.io <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Thanks Marty, that’s exactly what I was looking for 
Much appreciated 
Fenton 


On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Marty McGuirk <mjmcguirk@...> wrote:

Fenton, 

I just finished up a Speedwitch kit for the MEC version of the 1923 ARA boxcar. Ted provided decals for the BCR and green versions of this car and in the kit instructions he recommended (and used) White Ensign Models “Dull Dark Green” (https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/p/Colourcoats+Dull+Dark+Green+ACUS24/25650/#.YXxDkBDMJR4) for the body color for the green mid 1950s repaints.  

I’ve seen Ted’s model and the color certainly looked right to my eyes. I painted my car in the BCR scheme since the green is too late for my era so I can’t offer share a photo of a green model. 

I have used White Ensign paint in the past and don’t remember anything particularly memorable (ie “bad”) about it!

Hope this helps, 

Marty



On Oct 26, 2021, at 1:20 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

I'm getting ready to do a MEC 1923 ARA (X29) car in the green with yellow logo.  I know TCP makes a green color but I read an article about a better green paint that wsn't a railroad color in a magazine article.  Of course I cannot find the article as my filing system is just too secure.  I should have worked for NSA.
Can anyone help or give a suggestion to a laquer base dark green for this project.
Thanking all in advance
Fenton




--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Help with MEC boxcar color

Marty McGuirk
 

According to “”Northern New England Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment” (Sweetland/Horsley) “Late in 1953 MEC changed from “boxcar red” to green for its boxcars.” There’s a photo in the book of 50-foot boxcar 9006 in New Haven, Conn. in obviously new paint dated April 1954. From what I can tell if modeling fall of 1953 you can include a very newly painted - shiny(!) - car - but obviously the vast majority of MEC boxcars would still have been BCR!  
I used the Speedwitch decals that came in the kit for the BCR scheme. 

Marty

On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:19 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

By the way I think the green came in in 1953, but I’ve read where it was 55 so not sure if you know let me know. I too will do the brown scheme for my layout since my time ends in fall of 53 so I can run FM H-16-44’s. But I really like the green
Just say’in 
Who’s decals did you use for the brown scheme?
Fenton 


On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:16 PM, O Fenton Wells via groups.io <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Thanks Marty, that’s exactly what I was looking for 
Much appreciated 
Fenton 


On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Marty McGuirk <mjmcguirk@...> wrote:

Fenton, 

I just finished up a Speedwitch kit for the MEC version of the 1923 ARA boxcar. Ted provided decals for the BCR and green versions of this car and in the kit instructions he recommended (and used) White Ensign Models “Dull Dark Green” (https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/p/Colourcoats+Dull+Dark+Green+ACUS24/25650/#.YXxDkBDMJR4) for the body color for the green mid 1950s repaints.  

I’ve seen Ted’s model and the color certainly looked right to my eyes. I painted my car in the BCR scheme since the green is too late for my era so I can’t offer share a photo of a green model. 

I have used White Ensign paint in the past and don’t remember anything particularly memorable (ie “bad”) about it!

Hope this helps, 

Marty



On Oct 26, 2021, at 1:20 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

I'm getting ready to do a MEC 1923 ARA (X29) car in the green with yellow logo.  I know TCP makes a green color but I read an article about a better green paint that wsn't a railroad color in a magazine article.  Of course I cannot find the article as my filing system is just too secure.  I should have worked for NSA.
Can anyone help or give a suggestion to a laquer base dark green for this project.
Thanking all in advance
Fenton



Re: Help with MEC boxcar color

O Fenton Wells
 

By the way I think the green came in in 1953, but I’ve read where it was 55 so not sure if you know let me know. I too will do the brown scheme for my layout since my time ends in fall of 53 so I can run FM H-16-44’s. But I really like the green
Just say’in 
Who’s decals did you use for the brown scheme?
Fenton 


On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:16 PM, O Fenton Wells via groups.io <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Thanks Marty, that’s exactly what I was looking for 
Much appreciated 
Fenton 


On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Marty McGuirk <mjmcguirk@...> wrote:

Fenton, 

I just finished up a Speedwitch kit for the MEC version of the 1923 ARA boxcar. Ted provided decals for the BCR and green versions of this car and in the kit instructions he recommended (and used) White Ensign Models “Dull Dark Green” (https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/p/Colourcoats+Dull+Dark+Green+ACUS24/25650/#.YXxDkBDMJR4) for the body color for the green mid 1950s repaints.  

I’ve seen Ted’s model and the color certainly looked right to my eyes. I painted my car in the BCR scheme since the green is too late for my era so I can’t offer share a photo of a green model. 

I have used White Ensign paint in the past and don’t remember anything particularly memorable (ie “bad”) about it!

Hope this helps, 

Marty



On Oct 26, 2021, at 1:20 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

I'm getting ready to do a MEC 1923 ARA (X29) car in the green with yellow logo.  I know TCP makes a green color but I read an article about a better green paint that wsn't a railroad color in a magazine article.  Of course I cannot find the article as my filing system is just too secure.  I should have worked for NSA.
Can anyone help or give a suggestion to a laquer base dark green for this project.
Thanking all in advance
Fenton


Re: Help with MEC boxcar color

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Marty, that’s exactly what I was looking for 
Much appreciated 
Fenton 


On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Marty McGuirk <mjmcguirk@...> wrote:

Fenton, 

I just finished up a Speedwitch kit for the MEC version of the 1923 ARA boxcar. Ted provided decals for the BCR and green versions of this car and in the kit instructions he recommended (and used) White Ensign Models “Dull Dark Green” (https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/p/Colourcoats+Dull+Dark+Green+ACUS24/25650/#.YXxDkBDMJR4) for the body color for the green mid 1950s repaints.  

I’ve seen Ted’s model and the color certainly looked right to my eyes. I painted my car in the BCR scheme since the green is too late for my era so I can’t offer share a photo of a green model. 

I have used White Ensign paint in the past and don’t remember anything particularly memorable (ie “bad”) about it!

Hope this helps, 

Marty



On Oct 26, 2021, at 1:20 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

I'm getting ready to do a MEC 1923 ARA (X29) car in the green with yellow logo.  I know TCP makes a green color but I read an article about a better green paint that wsn't a railroad color in a magazine article.  Of course I cannot find the article as my filing system is just too secure.  I should have worked for NSA.
Can anyone help or give a suggestion to a laquer base dark green for this project.
Thanking all in advance
Fenton


Re: Larry Jackman - was daylight?

gary laakso
 

Yes, that is a wonderful story and the dialogue cannot be improved upon “since you don’t have to unload it!”

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rufus Cone
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 12:09 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Larry Jackman - was daylight?

 

Attached below must be the Jackman story that Tony describes.

-- 
Rufus Cone
Bozeman, MT

On 10/29/2021 12:38 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:

Yep, I still remember
Larry fondly, and often think of some of his yarns. My favorite was the one about the car in the yard with missing paperwork.

Tony Thompson



On Oct 29, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Dave Nelson <Western.Pacific.203@...> wrote:

 

Just imagine the story Larry Jackman would have spun with this lead-in.

 

Dave Nelson

 


Larry Jackman - was daylight?

Rufus Cone
 

Attached below must be the Jackman story that Tony describes.

-- 
Rufus Cone
Bozeman, MT
On 10/29/2021 12:38 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:

Yep, I still remember Larry fondly, and often think of some of his yarns. My favorite was the one about the car in the yard with missing paperwork.
Tony Thompson

On Oct 29, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Dave Nelson <Western.Pacific.203@...> wrote:

Just imagine the story Larry Jackman would have spun with this lead-in.
 
Dave Nelson


Re: Help with MEC boxcar color

Marty McGuirk
 

Fenton, 

I just finished up a Speedwitch kit for the MEC version of the 1923 ARA boxcar. Ted provided decals for the BCR and green versions of this car and in the kit instructions he recommended (and used) White Ensign Models “Dull Dark Green” (https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/p/Colourcoats+Dull+Dark+Green+ACUS24/25650/#.YXxDkBDMJR4) for the body color for the green mid 1950s repaints.  

I’ve seen Ted’s model and the color certainly looked right to my eyes. I painted my car in the BCR scheme since the green is too late for my era so I can’t offer share a photo of a green model. 

I have used White Ensign paint in the past and don’t remember anything particularly memorable (ie “bad”) about it!

Hope this helps, 

Marty



On Oct 26, 2021, at 1:20 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

I'm getting ready to do a MEC 1923 ARA (X29) car in the green with yellow logo.  I know TCP makes a green color but I read an article about a better green paint that wsn't a railroad color in a magazine article.  Of course I cannot find the article as my filing system is just too secure.  I should have worked for NSA.
Can anyone help or give a suggestion to a laquer base dark green for this project.
Thanking all in advance
Fenton


Re: daylight?

Tony Thompson
 

Yep, I still remember Larry fondly, and often think of some of his yarns. My favorite was the one about the car in the yard with missing paperwork.
Tony Thompson



On Oct 29, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Dave Nelson <Western.Pacific.203@...> wrote:

Just imagine the story Larry Jackman would have spun with this lead-in.
 
Dave Nelson
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Keene via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 10:07 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] daylight?
 
They grow ‘em big in Kansas!
 
Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


Re: daylight?

Dave Nelson
 

Just imagine the story Larry Jackman would have spun with this lead-in.

 

Dave Nelson

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Keene via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 10:07 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] daylight?

 

They grow ‘em big in Kansas!

 

Cheers,

Bill Keene

Irvine, CA


Re: One out of the penalty box Fruit Growers Express truss rod reefer

Bill J.
 

Where’s the bottle, no pic! Name?

Thanks,

Bill Jolity

5501 - 5520 of 193520