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Re: Reading White Decals printed on pale blue backing.paper

Ken Adams
 

I have found a solution....I purchased an inexpensive LED backlit Illuminated Tracing Lightbox on Amazon for $19.99. 

This is the X29 decal on the lightbox. With magnification the P57 6-50 Reweigh date was located and marked with a marker pen


This is the light box box....


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Still in splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek
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Re: Moving a captured V2 from White Sands NM to Norfolk VA Navy Yard in 1947

Steve SANDIFER
 

Notice the bow in the end door, most apparent when it was open.

Also notice that the last car on this train is a Santa Fe Drover Caboose. Several of there were used by the Atomic Energy Commission in guard service. (09:21)

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffrey White
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 1:43 AM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Moving a captured V2 from White Sands NM to Norfolk VA Navy Yard in 1947

 

Interesting load involving Santa Fe end door auto car and PRR flat car. Some good shots of movement on the tight curves in the Navy Yard.

 

https://youtu.be/RHNVCnHl19M

 

Jeff White

Alma IL

 

 

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Re: New Kit Release from National Scale Car B&O M55's

Tim O'Connor
 

Brian

Yeah, I actually jumped onto the web site hoping to find undec 10-foot inside height cars
with 10 panel sides (very useful because the ends and roof are separate) but no such luck. :-(

Tim O'Connor

On 10/31/2021 12:43 PM, Brian Carlson via groups.io wrote:
Intermountain undec kits have been “reserve now” for years. I’ve had several on order for 3-4 years.

For the mini-kit you’d be better off with the IM 1937 AAR car so you don’t have to cut off the end.

 I have a half dozen IMWX 1937 AAR kits for kitbashing stock when I need a “standard” 1937 AAR car.

Brian J. Carlson
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: New Kit Release from National Scale Car B&O M55's

O Fenton Wells
 

I believe the Branchline Yardmaster cars are 10'-0" IH and the ends are separate but you do have to shave off the ladders.  We used to make a lot of the USRA rebuilds for the Cocoa Beach Shake 'N Take under the late Greg Martins wonderful leadership.
Fenton

On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 12:43 PM Brian Carlson via groups.io <prrk41361=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Intermountain undec kits have been “reserve now” for years. I’ve had several on order for 3-4 years. 

For the mini-kit you’d be better off with the IM 1937 AAR car so you don’t have to cut off the end.

 I have a half dozen IMWX 1937 AAR kits for kitbashing stock when I need a “standard” 1937 AAR car.  

Brian J. Carlson 

On Oct 31, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Ken Adams <smadanek44g@...> wrote:

The website http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1937aarmain.html indicates they had 6' doors.  Intermountain lists undecorated kits https://www.intermountain-railway.com/distrib/redcaboose/html/RR-38600.htm as reserve now.  

Just in case you were quick enough to reserve the NSC kit. 
--
Ken Adams
Still in splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io

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Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY



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Re: Moving a captured V2 from White Sands NM to Norfolk VA Navy Yard in 1947

Kenneth Montero
 

At 9:16 and onward, note the brakeman on top of the middle boxcar giving hand signals to the engineer. Same signal as was given by a brakeman in a previous posting.

Ken Montero


On 10/31/2021 11:05 AM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



Skip to the freight cars  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHNVCnHl19M&t=333s


On 10/31/2021 2:43 AM, Jeffrey White wrote:

Interesting load involving Santa Fe end door auto car and PRR flat car. Some good shots of movement on the tight curves in the Navy Yard.


https://youtu.be/RHNVCnHl19M


Jeff White

Alma IL


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: New Kit Release from National Scale Car B&O M55's

Brian Carlson
 

Intermountain undec kits have been “reserve now” for years. I’ve had several on order for 3-4 years. 

For the mini-kit you’d be better off with the IM 1937 AAR car so you don’t have to cut off the end.

 I have a half dozen IMWX 1937 AAR kits for kitbashing stock when I need a “standard” 1937 AAR car.  

Brian J. Carlson 

On Oct 31, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Ken Adams <smadanek44g@...> wrote:

The website http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1937aarmain.html indicates they had 6' doors.  Intermountain lists undecorated kits https://www.intermountain-railway.com/distrib/redcaboose/html/RR-38600.htm as reserve now.  

Just in case you were quick enough to reserve the NSC kit. 
--
Ken Adams
Still in splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io

--
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: New Kit Release from National Scale Car B&O M55's

Ken Adams
 

The website http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1937aarmain.html indicates they had 6' doors.  Intermountain lists undecorated kits https://www.intermountain-railway.com/distrib/redcaboose/html/RR-38600.htm as reserve now.  

Just in case you were quick enough to reserve the NSC kit. 
--
Ken Adams
Still in splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io


Re: Moving a captured V2 from White Sands NM to Norfolk VA Navy Yard in 1947

Ken Adams
 

Prototype for the toy missile in a box car in the 1950's?
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Ken Adams
Still in splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io


Re: Reading White Decals printed on pale blue backing.paper

Lester Breuer
 

Ken sorry photo did not attach properly in prior post so here it be.

Lester Breuer


Re: Reading White Decals printed on pale blue backing.paper

Lester Breuer
 

Ken I was cutting out Speedwitch Media decals this morning.  As yourself when I got to the reweigh dates I could not read them without help.  I used a 8x lupe, not expensive as plastic, to read the clear well printed decals with white lettering on blue paper.   I had to hold the decals in light hitting the paper held at an angle to read.   It is a method that works for me.  I have attached photo of Lupe.   Just another method you might try in the future if you have a lupe.

Lester Breuer


Re: Cudahy General American reefer reweigh.

Steve and Barb Hile
 

I have several photos on my computer showing ECH with dates from 35 to 52.  The earlier ones clearly show periods for separators such as

 

E.CH. 2.35

 

The periods are less distinct by the mid to late 40’s and don’t show in 52

 

ECH 6 52

 

Hope this helps.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Parker via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 11:47 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Cudahy General American reefer reweigh.

 

East Chicago.  I have it as EC in a photo with a 1929 reweigh, but the (mostly) Hendrickson tabulation gives it as ECH.  Hopefully someone has a later photo where it is legible.
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Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: Moving a captured V2 from White Sands NM to Norfolk VA Navy Yard in 1947

Tim O'Connor
 

On 10/31/2021 2:43 AM, Jeffrey White wrote:

Interesting load involving Santa Fe end door auto car and PRR flat car. Some good shots of movement on the tight curves in the Navy Yard.


https://youtu.be/RHNVCnHl19M


Jeff White

Alma IL


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Moving a captured V2 from White Sands NM to Norfolk VA Navy Yard in 1947

Jeffrey White
 

Interesting load involving Santa Fe end door auto car and PRR flat car. Some good shots of movement on the tight curves in the Navy Yard.


https://youtu.be/RHNVCnHl19M


Jeff White

Alma IL



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Re: Cudahy General American reefer reweigh.

Dave Parker
 

East Chicago.  I have it as EC in a photo with a 1929 reweigh, but the (mostly) Hendrickson tabulation gives it as ECH.  Hopefully someone has a later photo where it is legible.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Cudahy General American reefer reweigh.

Brian Carlson
 

I have a Rapido Cudahy reefer. What would be the typical reweigh symbol (home) for Cudahy? Protocraft has some decals but I can read the small print online.

Brian J. Carlson


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Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Chalk Marks on the Roof?

Mark Kapka
 

Hi

I have had many photos from the accident and claims file of the Pere Marquette.
When there was a claim or a slip and fall, a commercial photographer was hired to take photos for court purposes.
Often it required closeups of the accident point.  The Photographer would mark RR and car # in chalk so as to show in the photo. 
I have some that show A or B end or Left or Right some say point of impact, when a auto was involved. 
I hope that this helps.

Mark Kapka

On Oct 30, 2021, at 7:01 PM, Dennis Storzek <dennis@...> wrote:

May have been done by a car inspector when he wrote up a defect card on either damaged roof, running board, or safety appliance, to be sure a car man walking the tops found the car. With the thousands of car roof photos we have all looked at, it has to be rare.

Dennis Storzek


Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Chalk Marks on the Roof?

Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
 

May have been done by a car inspector when he wrote up a defect card on either damaged roof, running board, or safety appliance, to be sure a car man walking the tops found the car. With the thousands of car roof photos we have all looked at, it has to be rare.

Dennis Storzek


Re: New Kit Release from National Scale Car B&O M55's

Mike Clements
 

Thanks Steve I should have checked there first, but I had it in my head that the hardware choices on these would have made them different enough to be left off that list. 
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Wakefield, MA
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Re: New Kit Release from National Scale Car B&O M55's

Ed Hawkins
 



On Oct 30, 2021, at 10:25 AM, pennsylvania1954 <stevehprr@...> wrote:

That was fast. Website shows they are sold out

Please don't forget that we have the Steam Era Freight Cars site for all sorts of easy to find info. For these cars, go here:

http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1937aarmain.html

Once again thank you Ed Hawkins!
-- 
Steve Hoxie

Steve,
You're kind words are much appreciated. 

And I’ll add a plug for the 385-page book about the 1937 AAR Standard Box Car, Railway Prototype Cyclopedia Volume 35, authored by Patrick C. Wider & sold via an exclusive arrangement with Ron’s Books.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Chalk Marks on the Roof?

O Fenton Wells
 

From that enlargement I would agree
Fenton

On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 11:55 AM Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:

I see this as a chalk mark.

 

 

I don’t recall any Rock Island documentation showing a roof stencil.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 10:39 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Chalk Marks on the Roof?

 

Is it possible, as the roof photo at least looks like to me that this was a stencil on the roof.  I know some reefers had their car number and Road Name Initials stencilled on the ice hatches.

Fenton

 

On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 11:06 AM Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:

I seem to recall that photo being posted to our list before.  I see the car number as RI 25189.  If so, it is a pre-PS-1 post war Pullman Standard built boxcar with 6 panel riveted sides on each side of the door with a Murphy roof and Improved Dreadnaught ends.  There were 500 cars in the series 25000-25499 built in 1946.  Good roof photos are, indeed rare.

 

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bruce Smith
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 9:39 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Chalk Marks on the Roof?

 

Scott, Folks,

 

The time stamp is 21:21 in this interview of Angela Sutton, a skilled PRR modeler. She is showing a photo of Homestead, PA. The date is unclear, but most likely in the late 1940s, or 1950s, as it is a B&W photo but the car has steel roofwalks. While the angle and resolution of the photo are challenging, it certainly looks like a car number, upside down to the perspective of the photographer. 

 

I have never noticed this being done before, so I think it is probably rare. As to the reason, well, brakemen did what was needed to get the job done. In all likelihood, it is location specific, so that a crew person, riding the tops of the cars, would know where to stop the cut to spot the car in the correct location.

 

I certainly wouldn't go bonkers and add this detail to all my boxcars, but to have it on one or two of a fleet of 100s is probably fine. It should also be noted that certain types of cars, such as refrigerator cars would have the number stenciled on the roof or hatch so that icing crews knew how much ice/salt to add.

 

Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, Al

 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Scott H. Haycock <shhaycock@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 3:14 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Chalk Marks on the Roof?

 

CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.

Folks,

I was watching Ken Patterson's weekly show- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtcnbUNNfZM&t=1662s

At approximately 20 minutes in, there is a photo of a box car roof with, what appears to be, the cars' reporting marks chalked on the roof panel adjacent to a lateral walkway. 

I've never seen this before- how common was it? And Why?

Scott Haycock


 

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