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Re: [ResinFreightCarBuilders] CB&Q 15508
Lovely product from Speedwitch, and a gorgeous build!
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Michael Gross Pasadena, CA
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Re: Soo Line 76144
Paul Doggett
Rich
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Another excellent model. Paul Doggett. England 🏴
On 10 Nov 2021, at 15:24, Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:
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Re: CB&Q 15508
Paul Doggett
Rich
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Very nice I really like the weathering and chalk marks. Paul Doggett England 🏴
On 10 Nov 2021, at 15:30, Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:
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Re: NYC and MILW Truck Color Question
Eric Hansmann
I typically paint the trucks with the car color. When a prototype car is painted, over spray would cover at least some portion of the truck side frames. Weathering will alter the final appearance. The attached image of a B&O M-26b boxcar shows the effect. Additional examples can be seen on my Flickr gallery.
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
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CB&Q 15508
Richard Remiarz
Greetings,
Next up from the AZ built cars is CB&Q 15508, a Speedwitch XA-9 Auto Car kit. I finished this car earlier today. and brackets. The cars was painted with TruColor TCP-240 CB&Q Frt Car Red. Weathering was done using Prismacolor Terra Cotta, Tuscan Red,Light Umber, 30% Cool Grey, and Sienna Brown pencils; Pan Pastel Raw Umber, Black, Red Iron Oxide Ex. Dark, Red Iron Oxide Shade, and Permanent Red Extra Dark; and Polly Scale Rust and Grimy Black Finally, Speedwitch chalk mark decals were added.
Sincerely, Rich Remiarz
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Soo Line 76144
Richard Remiarz
Greetings,
Earlier this year we headed down to AZ when the weather got cold in Minnesota and I brought a handful of resin freight car kits along. I built several cars and was able to spray them with primer while in AZ, but I didn’t bring equipment along to paint the cars. Once we got back home I focused on other projects (including getting the layout back to operating condition after COVID).
I have finally gotten around to painting, decaling, and weathering these cars. The first car I finished is Soo Line 76144, A Resin Car Works kit. I added Kadee 158 couplers, Intermountain 0.088" wheelsets, PSC 39156 air hose brackets, HiTech Details 6038 air hoses, and Tangent TSM-203 coupler lift bars. The car was painted with TruColor TCP-200 SOO 1949-55 Freight Car Red and TCP-010 Black. The car was weathered using Pan Pastel Raw Umber, Neutral Gray Shade, and Paynes Grey Extra Dark, along with Polly Scale Rust and Grimy Black. Light weathering was applied to simulate a car repainted 23 months ago. Then I added Speedwitch chalk mark decals.
Sincerely, Rich Remiarz
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Re: Refrigerator Car Return Instruction 1955
Jim Mischke,
If you have an ice rack on your layout then using "a rack full" as some kind of multiplier of reefers makes a lot of sense - the question then would be 'how many rack loads to use'. If you don't have an actual rack you can decide the same kind of thing by using something related to the 'imaginary' rack(s) in staging. Another possibility would be to use "the size most convenient for the industry where the reefers would be loaded/unloaded" ("size" is the number of reefers in a cut). What I'm saying, rather clumsily, is that the reefers could be handled either in complete trains at a time or in 'complete cuts' of reefers ... rather than as oneseys and twoseys. And they would go out/come in either on "the reefer train" or at least on "the express/thru train". All of this is, of course, during the peak shipping season(s) for the products that would be in reefers for the part of the country you are modeling. For example, if your layout represents California then you can easily use reefers for lettuce, fruits, and any other product that is going East to the fresh market(s). - hope this helps ... Jim in the PNW
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Re: Dahlman trucks on CGW ARA boxcars
Nelson Moyer
The CGW Chicagoland mini-kit also used elliptical coil trucks, which a good reason to add some CGW cars to your roster for truck variety.
Nelson Moyer
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Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 8:41 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Dahlman trucks on CGW ARA boxcars
That series, 87000 even #s rode on TMW elliptical sprung trucks
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NYC and MILW Truck Color Question
Nelson Moyer
What color were trucks for these NYC and MILW gondolas under conditions stated?
NYC 751000-751099 wood floor rebuild in 1945, presumably repainted then, as it would appear in 1953.
MILW 80000-81034 repainted in 1947 as it would appear in 1953.
I have no color photos to work from, and color model photos available show both black and freight car red on both models, so they’re not a reliable reference.
Thanks,
Nelson Moyer
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Wright Track X-29D boxcar instructions
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Alex;
PRR bought its paint in that era from a large group of commercial suppliers, who provided “best match” paints. I am sure quality varied, but surface prep was also crucial.
Elden Gatwood
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Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 9:37 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Wright Track X-29D boxcar instructions
Chris, thank you very much. Exactly what I needed.
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Re: Dahlman trucks on CGW ARA boxcars
Clark Propst
That series, 87000 even #s rode on TMW elliptical sprung trucks
Clark Propst
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Re: Wright Track X-29D boxcar instructions
Alexander Schneider Jr
Chris, thank you very much. Exactly what I needed.
I hope my decals look better than the last prototype photo! Was the PRR buying paint at a going-out-of-business sale? Alex Schneider
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Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Refrigerator Car Return Instruction 1955
The PRR had specific trains, symbol TRS, to "expedite" empty refrigerator cars (and tank and stock cars) west.
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
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Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 10:51 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Refrigerator Car Return Instruction 1955 CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.
> This was win-win. The railroads got a backhaul with someone else's equipment instead of toting empties cross country. The reefer owners got their cars back sooner on a more expedited basis. Remember that reefers were paid on a mileage basis, loaded or empty, so the reefer owners could not care less about westward loads. And in harvest time, they wanted their cars back without divergence to loading points, followed by delays getting the cars unloaded again and moved to produce areas. PFE people told me that they put up with some westward loading (less than 10 percent of westward cars) but would have been happy with all empties coming west. Tony Thompson tony@...
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Re: RC Double Staggered Door 40' Box Car Redux
Scott H. Haycock
The highlighted part is incorrect. The IH should read 10'-0''. The mistake is entirely mine.
I wish to thank Tom Christensen for bringing this to my attention.
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Re: Photos of NC&StL 70100-70199 and SP&S 32005-32054 41' Flatcar Ends
I apologize for bumping an old thread and responding late. Thank you everyone for the photos both in this thread and the ones that PMed me information. Anyway regarding the SP&S car, I've done work with the cut bars. They aren't 100% accurate but they're pretty good as is using reference photos.
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Re: Buffalo Creek boxes to Canada?
Drew Bunn
On Tue., Nov. 9, 2021, 22:56 Jim Mischke, <jmischke@...> wrote: "Yet there are many occasions when only an American product will suffice and distinctive US railroad cars make their way north." Don't forget the Canada Southern that was owned by NYC/Michigan Central. Any number of cars from the west coast could and would have moved through Southern Ontario between Windsor and Niagara Falls/Buffalo on their way to NY, NJ, and points east.
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Re: Refrigerator Car Return Instruction 1955
Tony Thompson
This was win-win. The railroads got a backhaul with someone else's equipment instead of toting empties cross country. The reefer owners got their cars back sooner on a more expedited basis. Remember that reefers were paid on a mileage basis, loaded or empty, so the reefer owners could not care less about westward loads. And in harvest time, they wanted their cars back without divergence to loading points, followed by delays getting the cars unloaded again and moved to produce areas. PFE people told me that they put up with some westward loading (less than 10 percent of westward cars) but would have been happy with all empties coming west. Tony Thompson tony@...
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Re: Refrigerator Car Return Instruction 1955
Scott H. Haycock
Ken,
George was generous to send me those two pages. Here you go.
Scott Haycock
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Re: Refrigerator Car Return Instruction 1955
Jim Mischke
To promote reefer return, one backhaul from east to west was magazine bundles. Care was taken to avoid any aromatic contamination. A favorable carload rate was negotiated where three reefers = one boxcar load. This was win-win. The railroads got a backhaul with someone else's equipment instead of toting empties cross country. The reefer owners got their cars back sooner on a more expedited basis. So a model westbound coast-to-coast reefer string might be three or multiples of three. Does this prototype observation and model idea make sense?
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Re: Catalytic refining: was UTLX 10,000 gallon X-3 tankcar
Jim Mischke
Thank you for your observation. While researching B&O oil traffic, I become familiar with pretroleum technology as found in the oil trade press. The Standard Oil refinery near Philadelphia is credited as an innovator and early adopter of catalytic cracking. That the technology flow might be earlier and the story more complicated comes as no surprise.
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