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Re: Red Caboose GATX "Flying A" Tank Car

John Mateyko
 

There is a bulk unloading facility in Cincinnati.  DOD tank cars carried JP-4 between that facility and Wright-Patterson AFB northeast of Dayton.  John Mateyko


Re: Red Caboose GATX "Flying A" Tank Car

Wayne Cohen
 

Thank you, Tony.


Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Red Caboose GATX "Flying A" Tank Car

Wayne Cohen
 

With all due respect, I wasn't only asking if the paint scheme was correct for the Red Caboose car, but whether it was accurate for a different tank car.   I am well aware of the group search function and I DID use the group search function: I think I even noted that on my post.  Searching "red caboose tank" didn't answer whether the scheme was fantacy or not eiether, but Tony has since indicated that it is pure fantacy.

Wayne


PRR F-41 Underbody

Lester Breuer
 

My friend is looking for photo or drawing of a PRR F-41 flat car underside. He has a Tichy Train Group PRR F-41 Flat Car Kit . The kit had no detail needed for underside.  He would like to add the AB brake Rigging under the car. The Kit was made for the Pittsburgh Limited 1996 Mid central region 50th anniversary convention. He has been unable to find any information for the underside on this PRR flat car.
Thank You for your time and effort to help.
Lester Breuer


Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Red Caboose GATX "Flying A" Tank Car

Bruce Smith
 

Wayne,

We have discussed the viable paint schemes for the Red Caboose welded tank car repeatedly on this list, with the latest iteration less than a month ago! While I realize the search function on Yehaw sucked, the search on groups.io works just fine. A quick "red caboose tank" would get you all the information you need 😉

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


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Subject: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Red Caboose GATX "Flying A" Tank Car
 
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My apologies if this topic has been covered before.  I've used the group search function and have searched the internet at large and I am unable to find the answer.

Is the silver GATX "Flying A" paint job  applied to the Red Caboose 103W tank car based on reality, is it a totlal foobie, or somewhere in between? I think the answer would fall into one of these three categories:

1. Complete fantacy paint scheme
2. Paint scheme existed, but not for this type of car
3. Paint scheme accurate for this car

Thank you for any assistance.

Wayne


Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Red Caboose GATX "Flying A" Tank Car

Bruce Smith
 

Depending on the era, aviation gas, gasoline, diesel, lube oil, etc...
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


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Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Red Caboose GATX "Flying A" Tank Car
 
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What would be a typical lading for a DODX tank car? (I assume the car is owned by the Department of Defense).


Re: Red Caboose GATX "Flying A" Tank Car

Tony Thompson
 

Category 1.
Tony Thompson 


On Nov 27, 2021, at 11:01 AM, Wayne Cohen <waynecohen49@...> wrote:

My apologies if this topic has been covered before.  I've used the group search function and have searched the internet at large and I am unable to find the answer.

Is the silver GATX "Flying A" paint job  applied to the Red Caboose 103W tank car based on reality, is it a totlal foobie, or somewhere in between? I think the answer would fall into one of these three categories:

1. Complete fantacy paint scheme
2. Paint scheme existed, but not for this type of car
3. Paint scheme accurate for this car

Thank you for any assistance.

Wayne
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Re: Single-sheathed box cars

Nelson Moyer
 

The car diagrams are compressed horizontally. Please send them uncompressed.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffrey White
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:21 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Single-sheathed box cars

 

Owen,

Here are the diagram sheets for all of the IC 50 foot SS double door cars including door and a half cars from the 1954 diagram book.

 

And some photos:

I have used the old Roundhouse car for my IC 50ft Single Sheathed cars.  I hope this information helps.

Jeff White

Alma IL

On 11/26/2021 9:00 PM, Owen Thorne wrote:

Hello group,
Beyond a brief mention within this 12 y.o. discussion of using the HO Walthers 50' single sheathed automobile boxcar kit to represent an IC prototype series, I have found little further info searching our archive, or in other groups.io discussion groups. I may have missed something.

  1. How could one bash an IC double-door boxcar using the Walthers kit?
  2. Has anyone a source for a photo or photos of a prototype car?
  3. How about an IC company diagram?

Thank you,
Owen Thorne


OMI GATX 8K insulated tank is too big?

nyc3001 .
 

I took out my GATX 10k (OMI 3229, painted) and 8k (OMI 3270, unpainted) insulated tank cars and found that they were the same size and length. I'm aware that varying amounts of insulation could account for their same size, but I'm still wondering whether or not the 8k tank is too big.

-Phil Lee
No photo description available.


Re: Red Caboose GATX "Flying A" Tank Car

Alexander Schneider Jr
 

What would be a typical lading for a DODX tank car? (I assume the car is owned by the Department of Defense).


Re: Red Caboose GATX "Flying A" Tank Car

Wayne Cohen
 

Thank you, Phil. 


Re: Red Caboose GATX "Flying A" Tank Car

nyc3001 .
 

2. The Red Caboose tank car is only accurate for some DODX AC&F-built welded tanks. GATX had its own welded tank car designs; several of them are accurately represented by the Tangent tanks.

-Phil


Re: Sheet Piling - Gondola Loads

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Nov 27, 2021, at 11:41, Guy Wilber via groups.io <guycwilber@...> wrote:

[...]

If you need copies I can scan and forward to you.
If there are no incumbrances, please consider posting the material in the files section.
--
Willie saw some dynamite
Couldn't understand it quite
Curiosity never pays;
It rained Willie seven days.


Re: Single-sheathed box cars

Jeffrey White
 

Owen,

Here are the diagram sheets for all of the IC 50 foot SS double door cars including door and a half cars from the 1954 diagram book.


And some photos:

I have used the old Roundhouse car for my IC 50ft Single Sheathed cars.  I hope this information helps.

Jeff White

Alma IL

On 11/26/2021 9:00 PM, Owen Thorne wrote:
Hello group,
Beyond a brief mention within this 12 y.o. discussion of using the HO Walthers 50' single sheathed automobile boxcar kit to represent an IC prototype series, I have found little further info searching our archive, or in other groups.io discussion groups. I may have missed something.
  1. How could one bash an IC double-door boxcar using the Walthers kit?
  2. Has anyone a source for a photo or photos of a prototype car?
  3. How about an IC company diagram?
Thank you,
Owen Thorne


Re: Sheet Piling - Gondola Loads

Guy Wilber
 

Andy wrote:

“I have been searching for a source of HO scale sheet piling pieces, and having found one in Germany that produces a fantastic product, I am ready to create some mill gon loads for my 1952-era layout. One question: How was sheet piling loaded in the transition era? I am planning on 50' lengths of piling in 53' mill gons, and the width of my material allows for two rows/piles/bundles in the car. Having looked at the AAR Open Top Loading Rules book from 1949, I see a few entries for structural steel shapes in gondolas (including Items 53 and 56-a). But having seen many steel shapes loaded loose in gons, I'm wondering what such loads really looked like in practice?”

Andy,

The AAR never published a rule specifically tailored to the shipment of sheet piling within the scope of The STMFC. In fact, there is still not one within the present day Open Top Rules.

The Figures that you mentioned are good choices for securing sheet piling along with 52-A.

The 1949 Rules Book you cite is the second supplement to the 1947 Rules and contains only figures which were revised, or newly added, as of June, 1949. All figures within Supplement 2, as well as those within the 1947 Rules, covering steel products (excluding pipe) would later be incorporated into the first of the AAR’s individual pamphlets (MD-1) effective September 1, 1950. All the figures were renumbered including those which were new and revised. If you need copies I can scan and forward to you. Figure 52-A (revised) became Figure 39, Figure 53 (revised - showing specific General Rules for reference) became Figure 40 and Figure 56-A (revised) became Figure 42.

Regards,

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada


Red Caboose GATX "Flying A" Tank Car

Wayne Cohen
 

My apologies if this topic has been covered before.  I've used the group search function and have searched the internet at large and I am unable to find the answer.

Is the silver GATX "Flying A" paint job  applied to the Red Caboose 103W tank car based on reality, is it a totlal foobie, or somewhere in between? I think the answer would fall into one of these three categories:

1. Complete fantacy paint scheme
2. Paint scheme existed, but not for this type of car
3. Paint scheme accurate for this car

Thank you for any assistance.

Wayne


Re: a number of freight cars in this 1947 view taken on the Alton

John Barry
 

While just beyond my 1944 modelling era, the line of condemned Alton 17xxx steel underframe DS boxes is relevant for me as the 17000-17998 40' IL , 8' IH 2730 CUFT boxes wer just over half of the Alton's 1943 box car fleet.  Thanks to Eric Hansmann's blog with its pointer to Ray Breyer's profile on the mid 20's Alton fleet I now know that they were rebuilt B-50-2 Harriman standard cars.  The catch is that Ray's profile only shows rebuilds with corrugated Murphy ends while the condemned cars on the deadline clearly show 3-4 indented dreadnaught ends.  Were at least some of these cars rebuilt later with the DN ends, and is there a source of the 8' inverted DN end?  I can use one of the Westerfield kits for the body and underframe, but the ends?  

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA


707-490-9696 






On Wednesday, November 24, 2021, 05:11:26 PM EST, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) <claus@...> wrote:


Hi List Members,
 
We see a number of freight cars in this 1947 view taken on the Alton.
 
CMO 40ft ss boxcar
Several ALTON 40ft ds boxcars that might be stencilled CONDEMNED
Tank car KINX 104 (8000 gal nominal capacity)
 
Native resolution image can be seen at the link below
 
 
Metadata at the link below
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: Michigan & Kanawha Coal Gone being unloaded

Doug Chapman
 


Ralston Steel Car Company of Columbus built 1,000 of these cars for the Kanawha & Michigan, between July and September 1912. Numbered 7500-8499, these cars were later relettered (NYC) and renumbered (342500-343499) when the New York Central leased the K&M in 1922.

Doug Chapman
Montclair, VA


Re: View of twin hopper TP&W 485 in 1947

Chet
 

Thanks for the information David.  I always thought they were ex-PRR Gla's.

Chet French
Dixon, IL


Re: Single-sheathed box cars

Owen Thorne - owen at udel.edu
 

Hello group,
Beyond a brief mention within this 12 y.o. discussion of using the HO Walthers 50' single sheathed automobile boxcar kit to represent an IC prototype series, I have found little further info searching our archive, or in other groups.io discussion groups. I may have missed something.
  1. How could one bash an IC double-door boxcar using the Walthers kit?
  2. Has anyone a source for a photo or photos of a prototype car?
  3. How about an IC company diagram?
Thank you,
Owen Thorne

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