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Re: 3D Printing Trucks?
Are those 70 ton clasp brake trucks ? Would they be correct for Carbon County open hoppers
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(or indeed other US Steel cars, like the B&LE) ?
On 12/4/2021 11:04 AM, Jeff Helm wrote:
Corey Bonsall has been making and selling HO scale 3D printed trucks to go with his 3D printed D&RGW gondolas, which he has sold on eBay for at least four years now. There should be some good operating history on those from a variety of users, including Mr. Bonsall. He has a Facebook page where one might get some feedback. --
*Tim O'Connor* *Sterling, Massachusetts*
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Re: Frank Peacock Deceased
Thanks so much for letting us know. I am sad about it. Frank was one of the highlights of the Naperville/Lisle RPM meets for me. It was always a blast talking with him at meals or on a trip to Des Plaines Hobbies, even the trip when my rental car was struck by a 16 year old unlicensed driver and we ended up at the police station filing a report. 😁 Tim O'Connor
On 12/3/2021 11:09 PM, Gene Deimling
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Re: 3D Printing Trucks?
Jeff Helm
Corey Bonsall has been making and selling HO scale 3D printed trucks to go with his 3D printed D&RGW gondolas, which he has sold on eBay for at least four years now. There should be some good operating history on those from a variety of users, including Mr. Bonsall. He has a Facebook page where one might get some feedback.
-- Cheers Jeff Helm
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Re: Frank Peacock Deceased
Alexander Schneider Jr
Frank was a very cordial friend and possessed a wealth of information. His presentations on steam locomotive appliances were exceptional. His passing is a great loss to the model railroad community.
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Re: BULK OIL DISTRIBUTOR SECURITY
A few years ago I presented a clinic on this at Collinsville. Dennis Storzek, Ken McCorry, Jared Harper and Doug Harding was very helpful in putting it together.
I see a lot of new and good information that I should add. Anyone wanting the clinic can get in touch with me Ron Christensen
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Re: 3D Printing Trucks?
Kenneth Montero
Gene,
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In addition, Walthers once made trucks with leaf springs (for cabooses) - no. 934-818 (Bettendorf-type trucks) and 932-892 (arch bar trucks). They had working leaf springs, but (if I recall correctly) the springs were oversized. Ken Montero
On 12/03/2021 5:09 PM Steve Summers via groups.io <summers1218@...> wrote:
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Re: Frank Peacock Deceased
It was a pleasure to talk to Frank whenever we would meet at an RPM or similar gathering. He was always willing to share his knowledge and collections. Hopefully we will all keep those traditions going.
RIP Frank!
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Deimling
Please see the attached letter.
-- Gene Deimling El Dorado Hills, CA
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Re: Frank Peacock Deceased
Ah dang. I always enjoyed my conversations with Frank. Had several good ones with him at the St. Louis RPM earlier this year. I used to be the one without gray hair now I’m close to 50. Time marches on.
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On Dec 3, 2021, at 11:09 PM, Gene Deimling <proto48@...> wrote:
-- Brian J. Carlson, P.E. Cheektowaga NY
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Frank Peacock Deceased
Please see the attached letter. Gene Deimling
El Dorado Hills, CA
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Re: BULK OIL DISTRIBUTOR SECURITY
John Holmes
In the 1950’s, we did business with the Mobil Oil distributor on East Fruit Street in Santa Ana California. My recollection is that it was fenced.
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On Dec 3, 2021, at 5:18 PM, Tom Madden via groups.io <pullmanboss@...> wrote:
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Re: BULK OIL DISTRIBUTOR SECURITY
Tom Madden
Fencing may be optional, but depending on era you should include containment. My dad became a Gulf Oil distributor in 1950 and built a (truck served) four tank bulk oil facility. It was built facing east into a hillside that sloped southwest to northeast. Attached is a photo I took in 1960 (late afternoon) standing uphill to the southwest. The hill provided containment on the south and west, and a berm was built on the north and east. I'm sure there's no liner.
It's still there, in service, unfenced, although there's been no family connection since my dad died in 1971. Tom Madden
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Re: BULK OIL DISTRIBUTOR SECURITY
Bill Keene
I will repeat that during the 1950s — early 1960s the oil distributors in the Oklahoma town the family lived in were without fences.
But there is always an exception… The attached photos—kindly provided by John B. Moore—are valuation photos taken in either 1921 or 1922 that show the connection between the Santa Fe and the Katy … and also the Standard Oil Company distributor in Burlington, Kansas. This distributor had a fence around the two 15,000 gallon tanks. Also the 1924 Sanborn Map of the city indicates a fence around the property that incorporated a portion of the fence around the tanks. View looking to the SE along the interchange track between the Santa Fe and the Katy. The Standard Oil warehouse is the first of at least three that were on the distributor site. In the distance above tank #2—the one on the left—there appears to be a train. The locomotive could be one of the last remaining 4-4-0s on the system.  View looking to the NW. The Santa Fe’s water tank is on the left. The ATSF/MKT connection also served as the tank car unloading spot. Note the permanent stop sign between the tracks that protected the ATSF/MKT crossing. Both railroads had a fixed permanent stop protecting this crossing. The fence appears … at least to me … to be a “hog fence” type with the fence posts possibly being repurposed drill pipe.  I am still trying to locate photos of this facility around the 1950s, but do know that it was reconfigured with new and more tanks and a pre-engineered steel warehouse. An aerial photo of the revised site dating from 1966 does not show any fencing. Cheers & Happy Modeling, Bill Keene Irvine, CA
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Re: BULK OIL DISTRIBUTOR SECURITY
Gary McMills
When I was in college I had a part time job working for a bulk oil distributor. We didn't have a fence. The diesel and gasoline tanks had locks and the electrical box for the pumps had locks on those too. The warehouse was locked so pails and quarts of oil were protected. We had many 55 gallon drums of lube oil stored outside on pallets but they were always stacked two or more high so that it would take several football players take a drum without being seriously injured, we used a fork lift to load/unload them. The trucks were locked as well. The owner never kept any cash there and the years I worked there we never had a break in or something stolen. Gary McMills - Vicksburg Miss.
On 2021-12-03 12:42, Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote:
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Re: 3D Printing Trucks?
John
Jim, Zenith Model Works on 3dptrain.com offers several unusual truck styles, mostly from the early 1900s. The ones I have look to be well printed and are nicely detailed. They roll well with the recommended Kadee wheelsets. I haven't run them enough yet to know how durable they will be. But they are very reasonably priced so might be worth a try if any of them are what you are looking for. https://3dptrain.com/Creator/zenithmodelworks/ John Bopp Farmington Hills MI Modeling the Nineteen Aughts
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Re: 3D Printing Trucks?
Dave Yingst
Precision Scale offers metal replacement leaf springs. I used them in Kadee Vulcan trucks for an Espee caboose.
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Re: 3D Printing Trucks?
Steve Summers
Maybe slightly off topic but similar, years ago someone made metal leaf springs inserts for HO sprung trucks. Could something like that be 3D printed? I need to find a source for several cars and have not found any of the metal ones (anyone know of a source?) so perhaps they could be 3D printed?
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On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Gene Deimling <proto48@...> wrote:
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Re: 3D Printing Trucks?
... I guess I'm going to have to restate my question ... Is anyone -using- HO scale, 3D printed, trucks and liking them ... in terms of how they operate (not how good they look)? - Jim in the PNW
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Re: 3D Printing Trucks?
I have attached a picture of a 3D printed truck. The truck is pretty durable. The scale 1/48.
Gene Deimling
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Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] 3D Printing Trucks?
Dennis, Folks, https://www.tichytraingroup.com/Shop/tabid/91/c/trucks/p/3059-bearings/Default.aspx
Regards, Bruce Smith Auburn AL
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 12:19 PM, Jim Betz wrote:
Well, they will be more fragile. If you are worried about bearing wear, you might design them to use the nylon bearing inserts that Tichy designed into the 100 ton wrecker trucks. As I recall, these fit into a 3/32" diameter cylindrical
hole (but don't design the part until you measure the bearings) and provide the standard 60* cone shaped bearing in a tougher material. I don't see these on the Tichy web site as a separate part, but Don is easy to deal with, so contact him and ask.
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Re: 3D Printing Trucks?
Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 12:19 PM, Jim Betz wrote:
What I don't know is whether or notWell, they will be more fragile. If you are worried about bearing wear, you might design them to use the nylon bearing inserts that Tichy designed into the 100 ton wrecker trucks. As I recall, these fit into a 3/32" diameter cylindrical hole (but don't design the part until you measure the bearings) and provide the standard 60* cone shaped bearing in a tougher material. I don't see these on the Tichy web site as a separate part, but Don is easy to deal with, so contact him and ask. https://www.tichytraingroup.com/ContactUs.aspx Dennis Storzek
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