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Re: BULK OIL DISTRIBUTOR SECURITY

Philip Dove
 

So if I fence my bulk oil depot i should have it besieged by pigs. I guess, or combine it with unloading facilities for my double deck hog cars.

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Photo: Midland Valley Tank Line Car No. 8055

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Midland Valley Tank Line Car No. 8055

Photo from the Columbus Metropolitan Library:

https://digital-collections.columbuslibrary.org/digital/api/singleitem/image/transport/2354/default.jpg?highlightTerms=freight%20car

Description:

“This Milton [sic] Valley Tank Line car was built by the American Car & Foundry Company of Milton, Pennsylvania sometime prior to October 1909. It may have been at the Ralston facility for updates or repairs.”

Notice the “Inflammable” stencil. Both flammable and inflammable mean "capable of being easily ignited and of burning quickly".

In the 1920s the National Fire Protection Association urged Americans to start using the word flammable to avoid confusion and prevent fires because they thought people may mistake inflammable as meaning not being able to burn.

Sometime in the late 1950s the ICC regulations shifted to the use of "Flammable" on placards. Anyone have a year for this?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Rapido PRR X31A

Jeffrey White
 

I have 3.  One was a disappointment.  It arrived with a broken truck and a missing step.  Waiting on the replacement parts in the mail.

Other then that (which can happen to any manufacturer) I concur, beautiful cars and I am anxiously awaiting the 4 F30s I preordered. Got an email 3 weeks ago that said they were in and they charged my card.  Hopefully I will have them soon.

Jeff White Alma IL

On 12/6/2021 2:54 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:

Gang;

 

I got an early Christmas present in the form of some Rapido PRR X31A.

 

Outstanding.  Fabulous.  Life-changing😊

 

The details are incredible.  The ends floored me.  The r/b’s.  The delicacy of the grabs and ladders. Accurate transverse reservoir and brake piping and detail.  Jogged top end grab.  The first accurate roof, pitch and inset.  Side panels, wow.  Tack boards with nice brackets.

 

The P&L looks perfect to me, and I am a PITA on that.

 

You all need some of these!  More than one!

 

Well done, Rapido!  What’s next?

 

Elden Gatwood

 


Rapido PRR X31A

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Gang;

 

I got an early Christmas present in the form of some Rapido PRR X31A.

 

Outstanding.  Fabulous.  Life-changing😊

 

The details are incredible.  The ends floored me.  The r/b’s.  The delicacy of the grabs and ladders. Accurate transverse reservoir and brake piping and detail.  Jogged top end grab.  The first accurate roof, pitch and inset.  Side panels, wow.  Tack boards with nice brackets.

 

The P&L looks perfect to me, and I am a PITA on that.

 

You all need some of these!  More than one!

 

Well done, Rapido!  What’s next?

 

Elden Gatwood

 


Re: Photos: Unloading A Fire Truck (1954)

schmuck804_99@...
 

Youngstown Ohio 1944:

https://www.youngstownfire.com/1944-firetruckdelivery


Photos: Unloading A Fire Truck (1954)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photos: Unloading A Fire Truck (1954)

Photos from the Montana Memory Project:

https://mtmemory.recollectcms.com/assets/display/83679-max

https://mtmemory.recollectcms.com/assets/display/83582-max

https://mtmemory.recollectcms.com/assets/display/83655-max

C&O end-door boxcar at Missoula, MT.

First photo is a good interior shot of the car.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Steam Fittings for Tank Car Heads

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Thanks Tim,

 

I guess that I am trying to find that person who is interested and willing to do these in 3D printing.  I can provide more photos.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 12:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Steam Fittings for Tank Car Heads

 

Steve

Anyone with 3-D skills and a 3-D printer could make these - And happily the resolution of
them (smoothness) is not critical. What do you think? They could even be shaped to match
the curvature of existing models.

Tim O'

On 12/5/2021 11:21 PM, Steve and Barb Hile wrote:

Rich,

 

The special thing I am looking for is the round riveted plate around the fitting, plus, it would be nice to have just the round riveted plate without a fitting, which you can also find on cars where the interior coils have be inserted.

 

Thanks,

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich C via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 8:11 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Steam Fittings for Tank Car Heads

 

Precision has a bunch of pipes and fittings that might work?

Rich Christie

 


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Steam Fittings for Tank Car Heads

Tim O'Connor
 

Steve

Anyone with 3-D skills and a 3-D printer could make these - And happily the resolution of
them (smoothness) is not critical. What do you think? They could even be shaped to match
the curvature of existing models.

Tim O'

On 12/5/2021 11:21 PM, Steve and Barb Hile wrote:

Rich,

 

The special thing I am looking for is the round riveted plate around the fitting, plus, it would be nice to have just the round riveted plate without a fitting, which you can also find on cars where the interior coils have be inserted.

 

Thanks,

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich C via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 8:11 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Steam Fittings for Tank Car Heads

 

Precision has a bunch of pipes and fittings that might work?

Rich Christie



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: BULK OIL DISTRIBUTOR SECURITY

Bob Chaparro
 

A very good modeling resource.
Is Part II available?
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Steam Fittings for Tank Car Heads

Richard Townsend
 

Some nominees (I have not seen any of these; the list comes from looking through the PSC catalog):

There are various clean-out/wash-out plugs: GH-48274, GH-48213, look like good nominees, but I'd check them all if I could (there's a whole page of them in the PSC steam locomotive catalog)

Also: Pipe flanges, such as GH-48100,  there are others as well - this is the smallest. Again, there's a whole page of them in the catalog

More off the wall items:

PSHO-32135 Starter control Franklin booster engine (It has a flange that might be good if cut off)
HO-3535 Throttle control for booster engine (ditto)

HO-31837 Rear inspection plates, Vanderbilt tender

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Dec 5, 2021 8:21 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Steam Fittings for Tank Car Heads

Rich,
 
The special thing I am looking for is the round riveted plate around the fitting, plus, it would be nice to have just the round riveted plate without a fitting, which you can also find on cars where the interior coils have be inserted.
 
Thanks,
Steve Hile
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich C via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 8:11 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Steam Fittings for Tank Car Heads
 
Precision has a bunch of pipes and fittings that might work?
Rich Christie


Re: BULK OIL DISTRIBUTOR SECURITY

Douglas Harding
 

Ron’s Bulk Oil Dealer clinic is on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMKIshUiRKU

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of ron christensen via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 5:49 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] BULK OIL DISTRIBUTOR SECURITY

 

Contact me off list. I’m converting it to power point from a pdf in vertical format. It will be horizontal format and larger font. It is large enough that it may be in 2 parts.
Ron Christensen


Re: Steam Fittings for Tank Car Heads

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Rich,

 

The special thing I am looking for is the round riveted plate around the fitting, plus, it would be nice to have just the round riveted plate without a fitting, which you can also find on cars where the interior coils have be inserted.

 

Thanks,

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich C via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 8:11 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Steam Fittings for Tank Car Heads

 

Precision has a bunch of pipes and fittings that might work?

Rich Christie


Re: BULK OIL DISTRIBUTOR SECURITY

Doug Polinder
 

However, unless the fencing is actually buried in the ground it will not prevent hogs from digging out.  The only way to do that is to mount an electric wire about 5" above the ground inside the fence posts.  The piggies do not like to get zapped on the snout.  You can also bury corrugated steel panels 12" deep all the way around the enclosure, as they seem not to be interested in going deeper than that.  But the electric fence is easier and cheaper. 

Woven wire fences from Tractor Supply have the same pattern and also work well for smaller animals like Nigerian dwarf goats, although the kids have no problem going through until they are a couple months old.  Goats are expert fence flaw finders but a 4' woven wire fence will keep them in.  My daughter decided she wanted goats so guess who built all the fencing?

Doug Polinder
Seguin TX


Re: Steam Fittings for Tank Car Heads

Rich C
 

Precision has a bunch of pipes and fittings that might work?
Rich Christie


Re: IC, IHB, CB&Q, C&EI, Big Four & other RR gons 1919

Ray Breyer
 

No relationship: it's a "patch" paint job of cars bought by the IHB from the C&NW. They just missed a part.

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


On Sunday, December 5, 2021, 05:48:17 PM CST, Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote:


A pair of essentially identical photos of a train of gons in the Vancouver Archives.  Lots of interesting old equipment here.  For those wanting to model CB&Q 87712, it look like you might manage without a complete set of decals . . . lol.  Was interested in the C&NW initials on the side sill of IHB 905.  Was not aware of a relationship there.  




Rob   


IC, IHB, CB&Q, C&EI, Big Four & other RR gons 1919

Robert kirkham
 

A pair of essentially identical photos of a train of gons in the Vancouver Archives.  Lots of interesting old equipment here.  For those wanting to model CB&Q 87712, it look like you might manage without a complete set of decals . . . lol.  Was interested in the C&NW initials on the side sill of IHB 905.  Was not aware of a relationship there.  




Rob   


Re: BULK OIL DISTRIBUTOR SECURITY

Bill Keene
 

Doug responded before I was awake this morning. Thank you, Doug. 

Cheers, 
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Dec 5, 2021, at 6:14 AM, Philip Dove <philipdove22@...> wrote:

Sorry to ask, but what is a hog fence? 



IMPORTANT! Regarding Jim Hayes Estate Sale

Rich C
 

Dear Group,

 

This one is on me. I failed to notify the group regarding a deadline date on orders, for 2021. I should have included it in the original letter. The executor informed me that they want to close the sales by December 23rd . They will be away until April 2022. So any orders after that date will not ship or be invoiced until their return.

I will keep all detailed correspondence regarding sales that are placed after the deadline of December 23rd. I will do my best to make sure every placed order is fulfilled.

I want to thank everyone for helping Jim’s family re-home all of his model railroad treasures.

 

 

Sincerely,

Rich Christie

rhcdmc@...

 


I stumbled upon some images showing flat cars with loads...

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi List Members,
 
I stumbled upon some images showing flat cars with loads...
 
 
White truck shipped on flat car 1930s
 
 
 
Mack LRSW truck on flat car 1950
 
 
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: 3D Printing Trucks?

Tim O'Connor
 

John that's it exactly !! (i.e. the plain bearing version)

A roller bearing version would be nice, although I think there were far fewer of those.

On 12/5/2021 12:10 AM, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
On 12/4/2021 10:35 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

In HO scale I think the ONLY chance we will ever get accurate Chrysler trucks
(both plain and roller bearing) is from 3D printed trucks. Good performance is
desirable but the appearance is even more important to myself anyway. 😉

As long as they don't break when inserting the wheels, I'm good to go with them.


Keystone Designs/Customs has one in N-Scale that was recently designed.  If you contact them they would probably do it in HO as well.

http://www.keystonedetails.com/products/n-scale-details/2021/10/25/n-scale-prr-fr-5-class-chrysler-freight-truck-4pk

https://www.keystonedetails.com/suggest-a-product

My apologies if it's not the correct truck.
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*

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