Date   

Re: Accurail DDR 40’ Boxcar Prototype.

Tim O'Connor
 

Rich

I have tried to illustrate in this picture of a Branchline roof. When SRE revised the design the narrow end of the
stamping was extended as far as the wider end of the stamping. Compare with the Moloco roof

ALSO note that I forgot to mention ATHEARN (Genesis) also made an excellent late SRE ZU eave roof for their
North American box car model, and it is a separate part. They also made the ONLY PS bowtie ZU eave roof made
by anyone in HO as far as I know. I sure wish ATHEARN sold their roofs separately!

Tim O'Connor


On 1/5/2022 1:26 PM, Richard Remiarz wrote:

Doug,

 

On January 3, Tim O’Connor posted that the Moloco roof is based on the late 1950’s version, while the 3500 series cars had the earlier version.  I don’t know enough about the two versions to be able to state exactly what the differences are.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: First debut in 22

 

Nice looking car, Clark!

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Clark Propst via groups.io" <cepropst@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 1:07 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] First debut in 22

 

First car on the layout this year. Speedwitch kit. Beautiful casting there were etched parts included. I’m not an etched parts person. I used some and substituted for others.

Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Is the second car in this train one of the Reading Hersey Coca Bean Cars?

Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
 

On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 03:26 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
That is interesting about the car type TG. Did that precede the type XT?
Tim,
You may be correct. I don't have an ORER of the proper vintage here, just looked up the AAR Mechanical designnations for tank cars, and came up with TG. However, that must be an open tank, not enclosed. Anyone want to look them up? Reporting mark was CWSX and numbers were 4401, 4403, 4405, and 4409. There is some reference to CWSX 2, 4, 5, and 9, but I suspect these are the same cars renumbered.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Accurail DDR 40’ Boxcar Prototype.

leakinmywaders
 

Rich, if I’m not mistaken, the most visible difference between the earlier and later version of this roof is how far the narrow leg of the raised impressions in each panel extend toward the roof’s eave. 
--
Chris Frissell
Polson, MT


Re: First debut in 22

Paul Doggett
 

Clark 

Very nice job.

Paul Doggett 


On 5 Jan 2022, at 19:07, Clark Propst via groups.io <cepropst@...> wrote:


First car on the layout this year. Speedwitch kit. Beautiful casting there were etched parts included. I’m not an etched parts person. I used some and substituted for others.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

Attachments:


First debut in 22

Clark Propst
 

First car on the layout this year. Speedwitch kit. Beautiful casting there were etched parts included. I’m not an etched parts person. I used some and substituted for others.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Photo: PRR Flat Car With San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge Section

Andy Laurent
 

American Bridge Company had an HQ and large scale bridge-building plant in Gary, Indiana on the EJ&E.  The facility is still in the steel fabrication business, now served by CSS&SB.
https://goo.gl/maps/jn9wYfkxieFneTgQ7 

Andy L.
Madison, WI


Re: Accurail DDR 40’ Boxcar Prototype.

Richard Remiarz
 

Doug,

 

On January 3, Tim O’Connor posted that the Moloco roof is based on the late 1950’s version, while the 3500 series cars had the earlier version.  I don’t know enough about the two versions to be able to state exactly what the differences are.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Doug Polinder via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 10:37 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Accurail DDR 40’ Boxcar Prototype.

 

Hi Rich, the Moloco 50' roof also works; I have built two of the GN 3500-series DD boxcars using these roofs.

Doug Polinder
Seguin TX 

 


Re: Accurail DDR 40’ Boxcar Prototype.

Doug Polinder
 

Hi Rich, the Moloco 50' roof also works; I have built two of the GN 3500-series DD boxcars using these roofs.

Doug Polinder
Seguin TX 


Re: IM undecs for sale

Clark Propst
 

The 37 mods are spoken for only the PS1 remains.
Clark


IM undecs for sale

Clark Propst
 

I have three AAR 37 mod and one PS1 Intermountain undec kits for sale. $20 each includes postage. I'll probably I'll be replying with a sold message soon!

Please contact me at: cepropst@q.com

Thanks,
Clark


Re: Photo: SP Freight Cars In State Belt Ry. Train (1940)

Dave Nelson
 

Identical ballast hoppers were sold to the WP and lasted many years… last ones were sold to, ummm… IIRC a lumber mill at Lake Alamanor, ESE of Westwood CA.

I cut up a couple shake the box hoppers and was able to make a reasonable standin… it stood out, being very short, very low, but not a gondola.

 

Dave Nelson

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2022 11:13 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SP Freight Cars In State Belt Ry. Train (1940)

 

Photo: SP Freight Cars In State Belt Ry. Train (1940)

Photo from the San Francisco Public Library:

https://tinyurl.com/3psdkzh4

Photo can be enlarged.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

 


Re: Photo: PRR Flat Car With San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge Section

akerboomk
 

Since it looks like a merger, American Bridge probably had plants all over the place.

 

But one notable site was Ambridge, PA (“am.bridge – get it?) IIRC just “east” of Conway yard, on the Ohio river. (west of Pittsburgh)


--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Photo: PRR Flat Car With San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge Section

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Jan 4, 2022, at 17:30, David Soderblom <drs@...> wrote:

Getting back to the thread: once these cars got to SF, what next? Along the SF Belt to the Presidio, and on via road? On via barge (seems unlikely, given a numbers of practicalities)?
The Bay Bridge (the destination for this steel instead of the Golden Gate Bridge) sprang from Rincon Hill on the northeast side of San Francisco, where there is a tangle of tracks al interconnected at various points. If the cars were on the belt they definitely wouldn't be going all the way west, and most likely would wind up in a corporation yard near Rincon Hill down in the very flat landfill on that part of the waterfront. I wonder if they arrived via SP or perhaps by car float at Pier 41, the ATSF dock at Mission Rock, or the WP at the foot of 25th street (fodder for a trip to the main library's history room?).
--
Little Willie from the mirror sucked the mercury all off
Thinking in his childish error it would cure his whooping cought.
At the funeral Willie's mother said to Mrs. Brown,
"Twas a chilly day for Willie when the mercury went down.


Re: Photo: PRR Flat Car With San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge Section

Jason P
 

The lower part of the sign says "American Bridge Co." which at the time would have been US Steel's construction subsidiary so yes it would be fair to say this came from a USS mill.

-Jason

On 01/04/2022 4:27 PM Nolan Hinshaw <nualain48@...> wrote:


On Jan 2, 2022, at 11:13, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Photo: PRR Flat Car With San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge Section
Photo from the San Francisco Public Library:
https://tinyurl.com/mr3afxfv
Photo can be enlarged.
Car number possibly is 925112. Next car is PRR gondola.
Anyone making book on whether they came from around Pittsburg (for some possibly very generous values of "around")? My guess is at least US Steel (based on very vague memories).
--
Willie saw some dynamite
Couldn't understand it quite
Curiosity never pays;
It rained Willie seven days.




Re: Photo: PRR Flat Car With San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge Section

David Soderblom
 

Getting back to the thread: once these cars got to SF, what next? Along the SF Belt to the Presidio, and on via road? On via barge (seems unlikely, given a numbers of practicalities)?


Sent from my tricorder


Re: Steel Shape Catalogs from the 1910s

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Jan 4, 2022, at 15:39, Clarence Zink <clarence.zink@...> wrote:

Enjoy the catalogs?!?!?! That's an understatement! Wow, what a treasure trove. A valuable resource.
I'm astounded that in all 9 I've looked at so far, how much the various steel companies are/were heavily invested in the RR industry.
I also found some info about mining industry products, mainly hoisting ropes, that is of interest.
Imagine how much of that steel wire rope was also in use on logging lines since people started spinning that stuff (both yarding and loading), or in rigging cranes.
--
Willie was a chemist,
Now Willie is no more.
What Willie thought was H2O
Was H2SO4


Re: Steel Shape Catalogs from the 1910s

Clarence Zink
 

Enjoy the catalogs?!?!?!  That's an understatement!  Wow, what a treasure trove.  A valuable resource.
I'm astounded that in all 9 I've looked at so far, how much the various steel companies are/were heavily invested in the RR industry.
I also found some info about mining industry products, mainly hoisting ropes, that is of interest.

Thanks very much for the link.

CRZ


Re: Is the second car in this train one of the Reading Hersey Coca Bean Cars?

Tim O'Connor
 


That is interesting about the car type TG. Did that precede the type XT?

Tim

On 1/4/2022 3:34 PM, Dennis Storzek wrote:
On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 11:08 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
To me the original scan looks like a refrigerator car at such poor photographic resolution that the door disappears.
The Soo Line had for or five flatcars that they leased to the Chippewa Springs Corp. of Chippewa Falls, Wisc., installing glass lined tanks and building a wood reefer-like body over them, thereby converting them to ARA type TG cars, between 1914 and 1928. The cars lasted until 1943. There are not a lot of photos of these cars; one shows a standard reefer door, one shows two small doors maybe 2' x 2' low on the car side, and one shows no door at all, leading me to believe that at least one car only had a door or doors on one side. I have no idea where Chippewa Spring water was shipped, but it's possible they made trips on the NP..

Dennis Storzek

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Tank car trucks

Tim O'Connor
 


Did you search on ACF Type 27 ? That is the Intermountain tank car.

The prototype cars rode on a wide variety of trucks. And the era you model matters, when it comes to trucks.




On 1/4/2022 5:42 PM, mopacfirst wrote:
I dug out some IM 10k tank car kits from when they first appeared.  Although I have a set of the original RMJ articles on these cars, as often happens I'm not where my files are at, so I'd like some assistance.  What types of 50 ton truck were most common on these cars?  The kits I have are three SHPX and one GATX.

I've spent the last hour searching the STMFC files, so I know a lot now about the discussions on these cars over the years, just didn't find anything about the trucks.  I'll even throw in one of my own observations, and that is, although the dome-to-body interface is keyed, and the tank-to-frame interface can only go one way, when I built the first of these kits many years ago, I managed to get one or two of them wrong, by assembling the tank top and bottom backwards.  The relief valves go toward the B end, with the tank drain slightly toward the A end.  I'd looked at the ACF tank car books to see if there were exceptions, after I'd glued everything together, and there is something like a 98-2 bias in favor of the "correct" way.

Few years ago, on this same subject, I was building three P2K UTLX tanks at the same time.  Lo and behold, I managed to swap two of the tanks on their opposite-numbered underframes, discovering this after all the assorted small stuff between the tank and frame was very firmly glued down.  It mattered because P2K actually provided the reporting marks on both the frame and tank, whereas IM just provided decals for the frame numbering.

Ron Merrick

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

6221 - 6240 of 195529