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Re: Vulcan trucks (was [RealSTMFC] First debut in 22)

O Fenton Wells
 

Good to know Todd. I wasn’t a fan of the 2 piece truck 
Fenton 


On Jan 6, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Todd Sullivan via groups.io <sullivant41@...> wrote:

Clark,

The new 'one piece' Kadee trucks can be a handful when you go to install them, but I found that using their included 'washer' helps a good deal.  You have to hold the truck together by pinching it with your fingers on both sides of the bolster, and screwing in the kingpin screw with their funny washer.  After a few frustrating tries, I got the hang of it.  I hope you will, too.  These new material Kadee trucks are now among my favorites.

Todd Sullivan


Strike Photos/SOO Boxcar (1938)

Bob Chaparro
 


Re: Photo: SP Freight Cars In State Belt Ry. Train (1940)

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Jan 5, 2022, at 00:10, Dave Nelson <Western.Pacific.203@...> wrote:

Identical ballast hoppers were sold to the WP and lasted many years… last ones were sold to, ummm… IIRC a lumber mill at Lake Alamanor, ESE of Westwood CA.
That was Collins Pine during the times I was spending summers there in Chester, on the shore of Almanor (at least the Chester Boat Landing is) railroad *west* of Westwood. Robert Hanft's _Red River_ goes into the history of Westwood as a company town for the Red River Lumber Company, originally in Minnesota. There's an interesting GN connection from Westwood to the north, and the WP from Susanville as well.

When last I was there (30 or so years ago) the track out of Chester still looked to be in use, and the feed-a-family-sized rainbows were lurking in the streams in the meadow feeding the lake.
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Little Willie from the mirror sucked the mercury all off
Thinking in his childish error it would cure his whooping cought.
At the funeral Willie's mother said to Mrs. Brown,
"Twas a chilly day for Willie when the mercury went down.


Re: Vulcan trucks (was [RealSTMFC] First debut in 22)

Todd Sullivan
 

Clark,

The new 'one piece' Kadee trucks can be a handful when you go to install them, but I found that using their included 'washer' helps a good deal.  You have to hold the truck together by pinching it with your fingers on both sides of the bolster, and screwing in the kingpin screw with their funny washer.  After a few frustrating tries, I got the hang of it.  I hope you will, too.  These new material Kadee trucks are now among my favorites.

Todd Sullivan


Re: Vulcan trucks (was [RealSTMFC] First debut in 22)

Tim O'Connor
 


Yeah, I dislike the Kadee design as well. Very problematic with some models. I did not know they had redone
the Vulcans in the new material. They added a spring plank, which I don't think was on the metal trucks.

Tim O'Connor



On 1/6/2022 9:42 AM, Clark Propst via groups.io wrote:
Time asked if they were Vulcan trucks. Yes they are. The original buyer of the kit put a pair of Kadee trucks in the box. They were
the newer one piece truck, or so I thought, It appears there are two halves that splice together...I'm not a fan...
Clark

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: First debut in 22

Clark Propst
 

Time asked if they were Vulcan trucks. Yes they are. The original buyer of the kit put a pair of Kadee trucks in the box. They were the newer one piece truck, or so I thought, It appears there are two halves that splice together...I'm not a fan...
Clark


Re: First debut in 22

Paul Doggett
 

Tim 

Kadee do Vulcan trucks. I don’t know if anyone else does them.

Paul Doggett 


On 5 Jan 2022, at 21:30, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



That's a beauty Clark ! Are those Vulcan trucks ? Who makes them ?


On 1/5/2022 2:07 PM, Clark Propst via groups.io wrote:
First car on the layout this year. Speedwitch kit. Beautiful casting there were etched parts included. I’m not an etched parts person. I used some and substituted for others.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Accurail DDR 40’ Boxcar Prototype.

Richard Remiarz
 

Tim,

 

Thank you for the explanation.  Now I understand what to look for.

 

Rich Remiarz

 

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From: Tim O'Connor
Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 3:25 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Accurail DDR 40’ Boxcar Prototype.

 

Rich

I have tried to illustrate in this picture of a Branchline roof. When SRE revised the design the narrow end of the
stamping was extended as far as the wider end of the stamping. Compare with the Moloco roof

ALSO note that I forgot to mention ATHEARN (Genesis) also made an excellent late SRE ZU eave roof for their
North American box car model, and it is a separate part. They also made the ONLY PS bowtie ZU eave roof made
by anyone in HO as far as I know. I sure wish ATHEARN sold their roofs separately!

Tim O'Connor


On 1/5/2022 1:26 PM, Richard Remiarz wrote:

Doug,

 

On January 3, Tim O’Connor posted that the Moloco roof is based on the late 1950’s version, while the 3500 series cars had the earlier version.  I don’t know enough about the two versions to be able to state exactly what the differences are.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

 


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

 


Re: Accurail DDR 40’ Boxcar Prototype.

Tangent Scale Models
 

A few quick points to add to this thread.

1.  50' Pullman OH roof from Athearn's 1960s NACC RBLs.  Available from Cannon and Company as a part right off the website.

2.  The Tangent Scale Models Stanray roof, from our PRR X58 box car is every bit a peer to the Moloco overhanging DP roof.  It has two versions, with holes for running board supports or molded in tabs to affix a running board to.  Available here: https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/product-category/parts/parts-prr-x58-box-car/

David Lehlbach
Tangent Scale Models


Re: Accurail DDR 40’ Boxcar Prototype.

Tim O'Connor
 


Cool, I did not know that! There were many PS-1 plug door cars with those roofs.


On 1/5/2022 4:39 PM, Mike Clements via groups.io wrote:
Cannon catologs the Athearn Genesis Bowtie roof.

3110 (cannonandco.net)

Mike Clements

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Accurail DDR 40’ Boxcar Prototype.

Mike Clements
 

Cannon catologs the Athearn Genesis Bowtie roof.

3110 (cannonandco.net)

Mike Clements
Wakefield, MA
nyc65.wordpress.com


Re: First debut in 22

Tim O'Connor
 


That's a beauty Clark ! Are those Vulcan trucks ? Who makes them ?


On 1/5/2022 2:07 PM, Clark Propst via groups.io wrote:
First car on the layout this year. Speedwitch kit. Beautiful casting there were etched parts included. I’m not an etched parts person. I used some and substituted for others.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Accurail DDR 40’ Boxcar Prototype.

Tim O'Connor
 

Rich

I have tried to illustrate in this picture of a Branchline roof. When SRE revised the design the narrow end of the
stamping was extended as far as the wider end of the stamping. Compare with the Moloco roof

ALSO note that I forgot to mention ATHEARN (Genesis) also made an excellent late SRE ZU eave roof for their
North American box car model, and it is a separate part. They also made the ONLY PS bowtie ZU eave roof made
by anyone in HO as far as I know. I sure wish ATHEARN sold their roofs separately!

Tim O'Connor


On 1/5/2022 1:26 PM, Richard Remiarz wrote:

Doug,

 

On January 3, Tim O’Connor posted that the Moloco roof is based on the late 1950’s version, while the 3500 series cars had the earlier version.  I don’t know enough about the two versions to be able to state exactly what the differences are.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: First debut in 22

 

Nice looking car, Clark!

 

 

Thanks!
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Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Clark Propst via groups.io" <cepropst@...>
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Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 1:07 PM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] First debut in 22

 

First car on the layout this year. Speedwitch kit. Beautiful casting there were etched parts included. I’m not an etched parts person. I used some and substituted for others.

Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Is the second car in this train one of the Reading Hersey Coca Bean Cars?

Dennis Storzek
 

On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 03:26 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
That is interesting about the car type TG. Did that precede the type XT?
Tim,
You may be correct. I don't have an ORER of the proper vintage here, just looked up the AAR Mechanical designnations for tank cars, and came up with TG. However, that must be an open tank, not enclosed. Anyone want to look them up? Reporting mark was CWSX and numbers were 4401, 4403, 4405, and 4409. There is some reference to CWSX 2, 4, 5, and 9, but I suspect these are the same cars renumbered.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Accurail DDR 40’ Boxcar Prototype.

leakinmywaders
 

Rich, if I’m not mistaken, the most visible difference between the earlier and later version of this roof is how far the narrow leg of the raised impressions in each panel extend toward the roof’s eave. 
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Chris Frissell
Polson, MT


Re: First debut in 22

Paul Doggett
 

Clark 

Very nice job.

Paul Doggett 


On 5 Jan 2022, at 19:07, Clark Propst via groups.io <cepropst@...> wrote:


First car on the layout this year. Speedwitch kit. Beautiful casting there were etched parts included. I’m not an etched parts person. I used some and substituted for others.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

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First debut in 22

Clark Propst
 

First car on the layout this year. Speedwitch kit. Beautiful casting there were etched parts included. I’m not an etched parts person. I used some and substituted for others.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Photo: PRR Flat Car With San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge Section

Andy Laurent
 

American Bridge Company had an HQ and large scale bridge-building plant in Gary, Indiana on the EJ&E.  The facility is still in the steel fabrication business, now served by CSS&SB.
https://goo.gl/maps/jn9wYfkxieFneTgQ7 

Andy L.
Madison, WI


Re: Accurail DDR 40’ Boxcar Prototype.

Richard Remiarz
 

Doug,

 

On January 3, Tim O’Connor posted that the Moloco roof is based on the late 1950’s version, while the 3500 series cars had the earlier version.  I don’t know enough about the two versions to be able to state exactly what the differences are.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

 

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From: Doug Polinder via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 10:37 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Accurail DDR 40’ Boxcar Prototype.

 

Hi Rich, the Moloco 50' roof also works; I have built two of the GN 3500-series DD boxcars using these roofs.

Doug Polinder
Seguin TX 

 

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