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Re: MILW 6000-6499 Boxcars - Looking for photos and info

Ken Roth
 

Good guess Clark.  Actually after posting last night, a friend found a picture of one.  It looks like an early attempt at all welded, but vertical welds with no ribs.  The rest of the car looks like the earliest rib-side class.  Hopefully someone else will offer additional photos and a car diagram.   The picture my friend found was in a Morning Sun MILW color photo book.  Its pretty fuzzy, so can't model from that alone, but my first thought would be to bash the sides for use with an Accurail DD 40' ribside.

Ken Roth


DT&I 1923 ARA boxcars

O Fenton Wells
 

I forgot to put the car numbers the general service cars were 18000-18149 and the auto parts cars were 20000-20199.
Fenton


Need help on DT&I 1923 ARA (X 29) boxcar paint

O Fenton Wells
 

I'm building a DT&I 1923 ARA boxcar starting with a Red Caboose X 29.  The cars were numbered I need to know if the roof and ends were painted balck on these cars.  I know on later cars they were.  I'm modelling 1953 so if any DT&I guru knows or has a photo they would share I would be grateful.
Thanks in advance,
Fenton


looking for MDC trucks

Pierre Oliver
 

Good Morning
I'm looking for a pair of MDC/Roundhouse 100 ton trucks with twin clasp brakes.
I'm hoping someone might have a pair they're willing to part with.
Contact me offlist please

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Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Re: MILW 6000-6499 Boxcars - Looking for photos and info

Clark Propst
 

Without looking I'd say these are DD ribside cars. Made my Ribside Cars abd now offered by Accurail.
Hope that's right?
Clark Propst


Re: Shell tankcar for my Quincy-model-RR

Fred Jansz
 

Brian,
I model both, but main portion of the layout is Quincy RR yard and part of town.
There were many oil dealers in Quincy back in the day.
Some of them survived up to now.
Even the remains of the old station building are still present and in use (as office I think).
Fred Jansz


Re: Shell tankcar for my Quincy-model-RR

Fred Jansz
 
Edited

All,
the Southern Car & Foundry tank car is sold out.
The P2k 8000G car has the 1st and 4th straps in the wrong place; they enter the bolster, while they should be at the edges of the car, near the rivet lines.
Also the frame is wrong, the dome valve config too and then there's the lettering.
I wonder if 'my' SCCX cars are 8000 Gallons, the might be 10K.
The Walters RPX car has SHELL lettering but has the same flaws as the P2K car.
The search continues.... (© pics internet)

regards
Fred Jansz


Re: Shell tankcar for my Quincy-model-RR

Fred Jansz
 

Tim,
your prototype picture with the emblem says 11-57 on the car.
My picture of the car in the WP train -with SHELL, no emblem- is taken August 1949.
My wild guess is that the emblem was added in the mid 1950's, when all US rr cars got more colorful and more emblems.
Since I model 1949 strictly, there should be no emblem on my Shell car, just the name.
Wish there was a decal set in HO.
regards, Fred


Re: LOOKING FOR PLATFORN FOR A KADEE 11,000 GALLON 105A TANK CAR

Tony Thompson
 

I don't know if the Athearn part can be obtained from Athearn, but look for part no. 15512 for the platform (plastic) and 15513 for the railing (bent steel wire) Others in this group may have that information.

DO NOT USE this part if you have any interest in accuracy or appearance. It is slightly oversize — for S SCALE. Not a candidate, IMO.

Tony Thompson




MILW 6000-6499 Boxcars - Looking for photos and info

Ken Roth
 

I am looking for info on MILW boxcars in the series 6000-6499.  Car number 6293 appears in a 1950 wheel report in my possession.  1950 ORER lists these as "all steel" 40' double-door cars, but curiously there appear to be only 104 cars left.  Is this perhaps a steel rebuild?  Photos or any other information would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

Ken Roth


Re: LOOKING FOR PLATFORN FOR A KADEE 11,000 GALLON 105A TANK CAR

Allan Smith
 

Atlas 11K tank cars with platform. Check the Atlas Chemical tank car with platform, it is a nice platform and wiil fit the Kadee car. I transferred one from the Atlas tank to a Kadee tank and like the look. I don't know if it available as a separate part or not. You may find one on Ebay. To see what they look like do an Ebay search for Atlas tank car with platform. I may have a spare but can't look until tomorrow, if interested contact me off list.
 Al Smith
Sonora CA
Smithal9@...


On Monday, January 17, 2022, 01:44:46 PM PST, Bill Keene via groups.io <bill41@...> wrote:


Tom,

Yes. This may turn into a small scratch building project. Drawings would be a great help.

Thanks & Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Jan 17, 2022, at 1:12 PM, Thomas Birkett <tnbirke@...> wrote:

If I have drawings of the PPCo car, would that help?
Tom Birkett
Bartlesville, OK


 IIOn Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:51 PM, Bill Keene via groups.io
<bill41@...> wrote:
Easy to answer…

First, I was looking for a car that required the least revision to the factory lettering. Using the car I purchased would require only revising the reporting initials and numbers. The plan being to revise the initials and numbers and add a self-printed decal for the lease assignment. Change wheel sets to semi-scale. Change couplers to Sergents. Then lightly weather a bit. OK… I am also a bit lazy. 

Second, it was a senior moment… forgot about the platform requirement. Happens sometimes. More than I am willing to admit.

To all that have responded … a big THANK YOU. I am presently going though the suggestions. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Jan 17, 2022, at 12:32 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


If you wanted a car with the platform, why didn't you buy a car with the platform? :-\


On 1/17/2022 1:30 PM, Bill Keene via groups.io wrote:
I recently picked up a Kadee model of their 11,000 gallon 105A pressure tank car to model a car in the SHPX 1800-1941 number series, ACF Lot 3365, as a car leased to Phillips Petroleum Company. I chose the Kadee model based on the fact that it was the plainest paint scheme requiring on the revising the lettering to be accurate. Unfortunately, this model did not have the 6'-6" x 4'-7" platform. Hopefully someone on this list can offer suggestions of a source to obtain a platform. See attached photo. 

I have contacted Kadee and received a reply that they did not sell this part. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene 
Irvine, CA

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Shell tankcar for my Quincy-model-RR

Tim O'Connor
 


No, the Shell corporate emblem was applied in the 1950's or earlier. The proto photo I posted of the Type 21
at Taylor Yard is probably from 1958 plus or minus 1 year.

On 1/17/2022 4:21 PM, Fred Jansz wrote:

Thanks Tim,
I see Gene's car's air reservoir has been serviced at Oroville, WP!
Beautiful model. Decals probably by Protocraft, wish they were available in HO too.
I guess the Shell logo was added when the car was restored by the Shell guys (in the 1960's?).
Both of the pics I posted do not show the Shell herald, but a company name.
cheers, Fred

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Shell tankcar for my Quincy-model-RR

Brian Termunde
 

Fred;
While I am sorry I can't help you, but don't you mean just the WP? There was only the Quincy RR serving Quincy and they only connected directly with the WP.

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Murray, Utah

Shell tankcar for my Quincy-model-RR
From: Fred Jansz
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 04:47:28 PST
Hello all,
I'm modeling Quincy, CA in 1949.
Besides lumber being one of the main factors of existence of the QRR, I found 4 oil dealers located in Quincy: Associated, Union, Standard and Shell.
Looking for matching tank cars, I found these two prototype pictures of Shell cars.
SCCX667 was on WP track in 1949, the SCCX673 on GN track.
But I wonder; were these oil cars? Is there a model?
Thanks for your help.
regards, Fred Jansz


Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] LOOKING FOR PLATFORN FOR A KADEE 11, 000 GALLON 105A TANK CAR

Bruce Smith
 

One more possible platform would be Yarmouth YMW-370

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


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Bill,

Here are some possibilities:
Plano nos. 303 and 305
Atlas no. 8820000141 Safety Rail set

A definite possibility:
Tangent Scale Models (tank dome platform) - no number

This may be a candidate, if modified:
Precision Scale no. 3576
See Tony Thompson's blog on modifying the Athearn part (similar to the PSC part) - http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2014/05/upgrading-tank-car-dome-platforms.html

I don't know if the Athearn part can be obtained from Athearn, but look for part no. 15512 for the platform (plastic) and 15513 for the railing (bent steel wire) Others in this group may have that information.

Tyco, at one time, had such a part, similar in size to the Athearn part - part. no. 4117.

Ken Montero

On 01/17/2022 1:30 PM Bill Keene via groups.io <bill41@...> wrote:


I recently picked up a Kadee model of their 11,000 gallon 105A pressure tank car to model a car in the SHPX 1800-1941 number series, ACF Lot 3365, as a car leased to Phillips Petroleum Company. I chose the Kadee model based on the fact that it was the plainest paint scheme requiring on the revising the lettering to be accurate. Unfortunately, this model did not have the 6'-6" x 4'-7" platform. Hopefully someone on this list can offer suggestions of a source to obtain a platform. See attached photo. 

I have contacted Kadee and received a reply that they did not sell this part. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene 
Irvine, CA


Re: LOOKING FOR PLATFORN FOR A KADEE 11,000 GALLON 105A TANK CAR

Bill Keene
 

Tom,

Yes. This may turn into a small scratch building project. Drawings would be a great help.

Thanks & Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Jan 17, 2022, at 1:12 PM, Thomas Birkett <tnbirke@...> wrote:

If I have drawings of the PPCo car, would that help?
Tom Birkett
Bartlesville, OK


 IIOn Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:51 PM, Bill Keene via groups.io
<bill41@...> wrote:
Easy to answer…

First, I was looking for a car that required the least revision to the factory lettering. Using the car I purchased would require only revising the reporting initials and numbers. The plan being to revise the initials and numbers and add a self-printed decal for the lease assignment. Change wheel sets to semi-scale. Change couplers to Sergents. Then lightly weather a bit. OK… I am also a bit lazy. 

Second, it was a senior moment… forgot about the platform requirement. Happens sometimes. More than I am willing to admit.

To all that have responded … a big THANK YOU. I am presently going though the suggestions. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Jan 17, 2022, at 12:32 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


If you wanted a car with the platform, why didn't you buy a car with the platform? :-\


On 1/17/2022 1:30 PM, Bill Keene via groups.io wrote:
I recently picked up a Kadee model of their 11,000 gallon 105A pressure tank car to model a car in the SHPX 1800-1941 number series, ACF Lot 3365, as a car leased to Phillips Petroleum Company. I chose the Kadee model based on the fact that it was the plainest paint scheme requiring on the revising the lettering to be accurate. Unfortunately, this model did not have the 6'-6" x 4'-7" platform. Hopefully someone on this list can offer suggestions of a source to obtain a platform. See attached photo. 

I have contacted Kadee and received a reply that they did not sell this part. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene 
Irvine, CA

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Shell tankcar for my Quincy-model-RR

Fred Jansz
 
Edited

Thanks Tim and others for your help & advise,
I see Gene's car's air reservoir has been serviced at Oroville, WP!
Beautiful model. Decals probably by Protocraft, wish they were available in HO too.
I guess the Shell logo was added when the WRM car was restored by the Shell guys (in the 1960's?).
Both of the pics I posted do not show the Shell herald, but a company name.
But maybe these are early cars and they later added the Shell herald.
cheers, Fred


Re: LOOKING FOR PLATFORN FOR A KADEE 11,000 GALLON 105A TANK CAR

Thomas Birkett <tnbirke@...>
 

If I have drawings of the PPCo car, would that help?
Tom Birkett

 IIOn Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:51 PM, Bill Keene via groups.io
<bill41@...> wrote:
Easy to answer…

First, I was looking for a car that required the least revision to the factory lettering. Using the car I purchased would require only revising the reporting initials and numbers. The plan being to revise the initials and numbers and add a self-printed decal for the lease assignment. Change wheel sets to semi-scale. Change couplers to Sergents. Then lightly weather a bit. OK… I am also a bit lazy. 

Second, it was a senior moment… forgot about the platform requirement. Happens sometimes. More than I am willing to admit.

To all that have responded … a big THANK YOU. I am presently going though the suggestions. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Jan 17, 2022, at 12:32 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


If you wanted a car with the platform, why didn't you buy a car with the platform? :-\


On 1/17/2022 1:30 PM, Bill Keene via groups.io wrote:
I recently picked up a Kadee model of their 11,000 gallon 105A pressure tank car to model a car in the SHPX 1800-1941 number series, ACF Lot 3365, as a car leased to Phillips Petroleum Company. I chose the Kadee model based on the fact that it was the plainest paint scheme requiring on the revising the lettering to be accurate. Unfortunately, this model did not have the 6'-6" x 4'-7" platform. Hopefully someone on this list can offer suggestions of a source to obtain a platform. See attached photo. 

I have contacted Kadee and received a reply that they did not sell this part. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene 
Irvine, CA

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: SFRD Rr-39 Side View Photo Needed

charles slater
 

Thank You I will add it to my collection.
Charlie

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SFRD Rr-39 Side View Photo Needed
 

here's a 1957 overhead view for ya

On 1/16/2022 1:50 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote:

Thanks, Charlie. Those two photo answer both parts of the question, and they are very good photos to add to the collection. It’s really helpful to get these two relatively high resolution photos. All my SFRD photos are lower resolution, and it’s hard to see details and read small lettering.

 

Nelson Moyer



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Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: SFRD Rr-39 Side View Photo Needed

charles slater
 

You are welcome Nelson
Charlie

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SFRD Rr-39 Side View Photo Needed
 

Thanks, Charlie. Those two photo answer both parts of the question, and they are very good photos to add to the collection. It’s really helpful to get these two relatively high resolution photos. All my SFRD photos are lower resolution, and it’s hard to see details and read small lettering.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

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Nelson here is an Rr-35 7029 and Rr-39 8023 hope this answers your questions.

Charlie Slater MSFM2

 

 

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Subject: [RealSTMFC] SFRD Rr-39 Side View Photo Needed

 

The RCW SFRD kits have two style fan housings, and without a good side view photo of a Rr-39, I don’t know which one to use. Also, the  Rr-35 has a single step center sill step, while the Rr-40 appears to have a two-step center sill step. Hopefully, one of you will be willing to send a photo showing  the side and the fan housing and center sill step. A cropped photo is fine as long as it shows the fan housing and center sill step.

 

Nelson Moyer

 


Re: LOOKING FOR PLATFORN FOR A KADEE 11,000 GALLON 105A TANK CAR

Bill Keene
 

Easy to answer…

First, I was looking for a car that required the least revision to the factory lettering. Using the car I purchased would require only revising the reporting initials and numbers. The plan being to revise the initials and numbers and add a self-printed decal for the lease assignment. Change wheel sets to semi-scale. Change couplers to Sergents. Then lightly weather a bit. OK… I am also a bit lazy. 

Second, it was a senior moment… forgot about the platform requirement. Happens sometimes. More than I am willing to admit.

To all that have responded … a big THANK YOU. I am presently going though the suggestions. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Jan 17, 2022, at 12:32 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


If you wanted a car with the platform, why didn't you buy a car with the platform? :-\


On 1/17/2022 1:30 PM, Bill Keene via groups.io wrote:
I recently picked up a Kadee model of their 11,000 gallon 105A pressure tank car to model a car in the SHPX 1800-1941 number series, ACF Lot 3365, as a car leased to Phillips Petroleum Company. I chose the Kadee model based on the fact that it was the plainest paint scheme requiring on the revising the lettering to be accurate. Unfortunately, this model did not have the 6'-6" x 4'-7" platform. Hopefully someone on this list can offer suggestions of a source to obtain a platform. See attached photo. 

I have contacted Kadee and received a reply that they did not sell this part. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene 
Irvine, CA

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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