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Re: Wooden Box Cars with Peaked End Sheathing

Bob Thompson
 

Here’s a late 1880s 33’ 20 ton Canadian Pacific car. Drawings in the CPHA library show a similar 1890s 35’ 30 ton car with the same style of end facia. 


Bob Thompson
North Saanich, BC


Re: Wooden Box Cars with Peaked End Sheathing

Dave Parker
 

Ray:

Did you read Chuck's second, follow-up message?

Dave
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Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: Wooden Box Cars with Peaked End Sheathing

Ray Breyer
 

>>I'm not sure Ray understood the question, or else I don't.  I took it as did early (how early) DS box cars have 
>>(a) single fascia boards with a horizontal bottom edge, or (b) two fascia boards per end such that their bottom 
>>edges paralleled the roof pitch? 
>>Dave Parker


Hi Dave, 

I read this:

>>Does anybody have, or can anyone direct me to, photo(s) of wood box cars where the end sheathing
>>runs all the way to the peak of the car? Photos I've found so far of wood-sheathed box cars are those 
>>where the end sheathing stops at a horizontal line running from one side to the other. From that line 
>>to the peak is fascia board.

So I'm reading NO fascia.
And from what I can tell, that's a mid-19th Century car design. See attached.

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL




Re: Manifest of lading

Andy Laurent
 

Bob,
I have uploaded a conductor's train book from Jan-Feb 1945 on the Green Bay & Western Railroad from my collection.  I had shared it with the group as an attachment previously, but it is now in the files section.
https://realstmfc.groups.io/g/main/files/GBW%201945%20Train%20Book_lowres.pdf 

Andy L.
Madison WI


Re: Photo: ATSF Boxcar 126439 (Bx-12)

irv_thomae
 

Could this have been a promotional stunt by the car dealer?   That might help to explain what puzzled me most about Photo #3: why the "brakeman" looks so over-dressed for his job.  And the guy behind the wheel of the Hudson can't keep a straight face...

Irv


Re: Wooden Box Cars with Peaked End Sheathing

Dave Parker
 

I'm not sure Ray understood the question, or else I don't.  I took it as did early (how early) DS box cars have (a) single fascia boards with a horizontal bottom edge, or (b) two fascia boards per end such that their bottom edges paralleled the roof pitch?  And the answer is yes, plenty of examples of both.

But I don't quite understand quite what Chuck is looking for.  A prototype to closely match the model?  If so, there are a number of other spotting features that should be considered.

In the FWIW department, early (truss-rod) Swift reefers sported both styles of end fascias, even within the same car series.  I don't think it was a particularly rigid design element in cars of the time.
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Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: Indianapolis RPM Rooms

Eric Hansmann
 

And more of the Indy Jct RPM details. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jan 20, 2022, at 7:56 PM, Clark Propst via groups.io <cepropst@...> wrote:

All's I could find was the NMRA part of the meet. I was told the RPM meet was from about noon Thursday till about noon Saturday...I think?
Clark


Re: Indianapolis RPM Rooms

Eric Hansmann
 

Looks like RPM clinics are set for Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jan 20, 2022, at 7:56 PM, Clark Propst via groups.io <cepropst@...> wrote:

All's I could find was the NMRA part of the meet. I was told the RPM meet was from about noon Thursday till about noon Saturday...I think?
Clark


Re: Indianapolis RPM Rooms

Clark Propst
 

All's I could find was the NMRA part of the meet. I was told the RPM meet was from about noon Thursday till about noon Saturday...I think?
Clark


Re: Wooden Box Cars with Peaked End Sheathing

Ray Breyer
 

Pick a prototype, and modify the model to match. Virtually all wood-roofed boxcars had a fascia, which was there to cover and protect the roof carlines (it's not decorative). Adding end fascia boards shouldn't take more than  couple of minutes.

I just breezed through about 1,000 double sheathed boxcar builder photos, and didn't find ANY without end fascias (if you head to the LoC website and look up Civil War railroad photos you'll find a few cars there without fascias).

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL



On Thursday, January 20, 2022, 06:18:35 PM CST, Charles Greene <greenec1144@...> wrote:


Does anybody have, or can anyone direct me to, photo(s) of wood box cars where the end sheathing (tongue and groove I presume) runs all the way to the peak of the car? Photos I've found so far of wood-sheathed box cars are those where the end sheathing stops at a horizontal line running from one side to the other. From that line to the peak is fascia board. I've attached a photo of a kit drawing that illustrates this type of construction. From research I've done so far, such cars may have been built in the late 19th century. I'd like to decal the model I'm assembling with a historically-correct road name consistent with the period when such cars were built.  

            -Chuck 


Re: Wooden Box Cars with Peaked End Sheathing

Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
 

Need more info. From the drawing, it appears to be a truss rod underframe car, that correct? 36' or 40'? What kit? What is A.C.? I don't recall anyone that made a kit for an Algoma Central boxcar.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Wooden Box Cars with Peaked End Sheathing

Charles Greene
 

I should have been a little clearer in my description. As you can see in the drawing, the sheathing actually forms a peak just under the actual peak of the roof. Fascia board follows that peak shape, as you can see in the drawing.

           -Chuck


Wooden Box Cars with Peaked End Sheathing

Charles Greene
 

Does anybody have, or can anyone direct me to, photo(s) of wood box cars where the end sheathing (tongue and groove I presume) runs all the way to the peak of the car? Photos I've found so far of wood-sheathed box cars are those where the end sheathing stops at a horizontal line running from one side to the other. From that line to the peak is fascia board. I've attached a photo of a kit drawing that illustrates this type of construction. From research I've done so far, such cars may have been built in the late 19th century. I'd like to decal the model I'm assembling with a historically-correct road name consistent with the period when such cars were built.  

            -Chuck 


Re: Help with instructions for Sunshine Kit #46.17 Swift 40' steel reefer car

O Fenton Wells
 

Sorry Chuck I have the older Swift 24.
Fenton 


On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:18 PM, O Fenton Wells via groups.io <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Chuck I’ll check I think I may have what you want 
Fenton 


On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:12 PM, Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:

Hi group,

I am looking for the instructions and prototype data sheet for Sunshine Kit #46.17, Swift steel 40' reefer car, 1949 red and white decals.  If you can help me, please contact me off list.  I appreciate your help.

Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM


Re: Help with instructions for Sunshine Kit #46.17 Swift 40' steel reefer car

O Fenton Wells
 

Chuck I’ll check I think I may have what you want 
Fenton 


On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:12 PM, Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:

Hi group,

I am looking for the instructions and prototype data sheet for Sunshine Kit #46.17, Swift steel 40' reefer car, 1949 red and white decals.  If you can help me, please contact me off list.  I appreciate your help.

Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM


Help with instructions for Sunshine Kit #46.17 Swift 40' steel reefer car

Chuck Cover
 

Hi group,

I am looking for the instructions and prototype data sheet for Sunshine Kit #46.17, Swift steel 40' reefer car, 1949 red and white decals.  If you can help me, please contact me off list.  I appreciate your help.

Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM


Re: Manifest of lading

Robert G P
 

Thats right Tony, by manifest I meant non professional lists of what would in actuality be waybills. 

Looking forward to your blog!

Thanks,
Bob

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 4:20 PM Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:
Robert G P wrote:

One of my hobbies within this hobby is creating manifest of freight trains where I imagine lading and origin/destination of the car. 
Is there anyone who can point me where I can find original manifest with lading included or could add photos to the group?

Bob, you probably mean “waybills," not manifests. My blog contains lots of examples of both prototype and model waybills. Here are just two you might enjoy.



Tony Thompson





Re: Manifest of lading

Tony Thompson
 

Robert G P wrote:

One of my hobbies within this hobby is creating manifest of freight trains where I imagine lading and origin/destination of the car. 
Is there anyone who can point me where I can find original manifest with lading included or could add photos to the group?

Bob, you probably mean “waybills," not manifests. My blog contains lots of examples of both prototype and model waybills. Here are just two you might enjoy.



Tony Thompson





Manifest of lading

Robert G P
 

Hello all,

One of my hobbies within this hobby is creating manifest of freight trains where I imagine lading and origin/destination of the car. 

Is there anyone who can point me where I can find original manifest with lading included or could add photos to the group?

Always looking for inspiration.

Thanks,
Bob


Santa Fe Automobile/Furniture Boxcar 63228 (Fe-P)

Bob Chaparro
 

Santa Fe Automobile/Furniture Boxcar 63228 (Fe-P)

Photo from the San Francisco Public Library.

Taken in 1940 at the Hills Brothers coffee warehouse in San Francisco.

The Class Fe-P cars were built in 1923 by Pullman-Standard. These were door-and-a-half cars.

There were several number series for these cars and due to modifications, those equipped with auto racks were reclassified to Fe-T.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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