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Re: Kit with Pratt truss sides

brianleppert@att.net
 

Lester,

I don't have that book, but did photograph a 3M single sheathed box car in southern California, sitting on the ground without trucks.  It looked just like Speedwitch's kit K-111 Pere Marquette autobox, but without the auxiliary door.  Does this match your photo?

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Re: Photo: SFRD 7029 (Rr-35)

Tim O'Connor
 


I will be selling IM/Long's SFRD kits soon, so you could cannibalize those :-)


On 2/3/2022 12:35 PM, Steve SANDIFER wrote:
I am interested in Intermountain parts. I have several of the CB&T that have the plug door that I want to build, but I know how terrible the CB&T parts are.  If anyone has some to sell, give me a holler. 

________________
Steve Sandifer


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Kit with Pratt truss sides

Benjamin Hom
 

Lester Breuer asked:
"After reviewing the new Morning Sun 1950 Freight Car Color Guide, the Minnesota Mining Mfg. Co. car photo on page 104 caught my interest.   A Pratt truss single-sheathed car with Hutchins ends.  I have the Hutchins ends available from Westerfield #4113, however, no kit with a SS boxcar with Pratt truss sides.

Does someone know of a kit, resin or plastic, with Pratt truss sides that might work with the Westerfield Hutchins ends?"

First one I'd look at is the Funaro B&M XM-1 SS boxcar.

Look for a flat kit - Funaro offered these as polybagged economy kits, so you shouldn't have too much trouble finding one.


Ben Hom


Re: Photo: SFRD 7029 (Rr-35)

Steve SANDIFER
 

I am interested in Intermountain parts. I have several of the CB&T that have the plug door that I want to build, but I know how terrible the CB&T parts are.  If anyone has some to sell, give me a holler. 

________________
Steve Sandifer


On Thursday, February 3, 2022, 07:53:38 AM CST, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



Years ago I stocked up on a small stash of roofs and parts from Intermountain (when they
were still making their own parts) to upgrade the C&BT kits. But it's still a major undertaking
to re-invent the kits because of the differences in how IM and C&BT kits are made. In the
end I just decided I didn't need many SFRD reefers - relatively uncommon on the SP.

Tim O'Connor

On 2/3/2022 2:25 AM, Tony Thompson wrote:
kevinhlafferty wrote:

As others have stated those kits are a real nightmare. The parts sprues on the earliest kits were “salvageable” but as the tooling aged they became unusable. The flash on the sprues became as thick as the parts themselves; it was basically a blob of styrene. It’s been a while since I modified any, but as I recall on the early kits the roof sat too high and had to be lowered, and the coupler pockets mounted the couplers too low. The bodies are a good starting point but that’s about all. If you have another option (i.e. resin) I would go with that. YMMV.

My advice has been, and is, throw away all parts sprues. The body moldings are fine, the rest is trash.

Tony Thompson


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: GM&O automobile boxcar

Ken Adams
 

The part about scratch building the underframe from Evergreen plastic components was very informative. 
--
Ken Adams
Omicron may come and go but I still live in splendid Shelter In Place solitude
Location: About half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io


Kit with Pratt truss sides

Andy Carlson
 

A simple swap of the left of door side with the right of door side will convert a Howe truss into a Pratt trust (or vice verda). Gets more challenging if the diagonals on the edges of the car sides are different, such as braces.

You did not mention which version of posts; such as Hat-section or Z-bar. Bill Welch told me years ago there was only one Z-bar trussed SS 40' box car with a Pratt design. That solitary class of SS 40' box cars was Great Northern.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Thursday, February 3, 2022, 08:33:54 AM PST, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:


After reviewing the new Morning Sun 1950 Freight Car Color Guide, the Minnesota Mining Mfg. Co. car photo on page 104 caught my interest.   A Pratt truss single-sheathed car with Hutchins ends.  I have the Hutchins ends available from Westerfield #4113, however, no kit with a SS boxcar with Prass truss sides.
Does someone know of a kit, resin or plastic, with Pratt truss sides that might work with the Westerfield Hutchins ends?


Kit with Pratt truss sides

Lester Breuer
 

After reviewing the new Morning Sun 1950 Freight Car Color Guide, the Minnesota Mining Mfg. Co. car photo on page 104 caught my interest.   A Pratt truss single-sheathed car with Hutchins ends.  I have the Hutchins ends available from Westerfield #4113, however, no kit with a SS boxcar with Prass truss sides.
Does someone know of a kit, resin or plastic, with Pratt truss sides that might work with the Westerfield Hutchins ends?

Thank You for Your time  and effort in advance to respond.
Lester Breuer


Re: GM&O automobile boxcar

Jay Styron
 

This is some impressive modeling, and the article is well worth reading.
-Jay Styron


Re: Photo: SFRD 7029 (Rr-35)

Nelson Moyer
 

I bought the MM DVD from the C&O Historical Society after then cut the price in half.

 

Nelson

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2022 9:22 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SFRD 7029 (Rr-35)

 

The April 1993 Mainline Modeler also had a great article by Jim Teese on upgrading the CB&T cars.

 

How nice to have a library.

 

Bill Pardie

 

 


Re: Photo: SFRD 7029 (Rr-35)

Jay Styron
 

Cut off the C&BT coupler pockets and replace with standard Kadee, and you can get the coupler heights right. Then consult your parts stash for the rest.
-Jay


Re: Lackawanna covered hopper decals?

William Dale
 

Scott, having used the Prime Mover set for the black hoppers, you will NOT be disappointed whatsoever. 

Billy


Re: Photo: SFRD 7029 (Rr-35)

Tim O'Connor
 


Years ago I stocked up on a small stash of roofs and parts from Intermountain (when they
were still making their own parts) to upgrade the C&BT kits. But it's still a major undertaking
to re-invent the kits because of the differences in how IM and C&BT kits are made. In the
end I just decided I didn't need many SFRD reefers - relatively uncommon on the SP.

Tim O'Connor

On 2/3/2022 2:25 AM, Tony Thompson wrote:
kevinhlafferty wrote:

As others have stated those kits are a real nightmare. The parts sprues on the earliest kits were “salvageable” but as the tooling aged they became unusable. The flash on the sprues became as thick as the parts themselves; it was basically a blob of styrene. It’s been a while since I modified any, but as I recall on the early kits the roof sat too high and had to be lowered, and the coupler pockets mounted the couplers too low. The bodies are a good starting point but that’s about all. If you have another option (i.e. resin) I would go with that. YMMV.

My advice has been, and is, throw away all parts sprues. The body moldings are fine, the rest is trash.

Tony Thompson


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Photo: SFRD 7029 (Rr-35)

Alexander Schneider Jr
 

Tony, are better after market parts available and at what cost? These cars were pretty cheap when they were made and by the time you replace wheels and couplers you are running up the cost to the point you may be throwing good money after bad. Too bad as we can all use a few more background models. 

If you have a better approach I'd like to try it. 


GM&O automobile boxcar

Eric Hansmann
 

George Toman shares modeling tips and techniques in the latest Resin Car Works blog post. A GM&O automobile boxcar is his focus 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN


Re: Canadian Newsprint

Earl Tuson
 

Since the topic of Europe has come up with newsprint I read in these
sources at one point on the east coast pulp or newsprint was coming in
from Scandinavia!
See the following for an image of a Norwegian vessel discharging
pulpwood at Ligonia (South Portland,) ME, in 1946:

http://bostonandmainerailroad.redmansefarm.com/BM29000.htm

Earl Tuson


Re: Photo: SFRD 7029 (Rr-35)

Tony Thompson
 

kevinhlafferty wrote:

As others have stated those kits are a real nightmare. The parts sprues on the earliest kits were “salvageable” but as the tooling aged they became unusable. The flash on the sprues became as thick as the parts themselves; it was basically a blob of styrene. It’s been a while since I modified any, but as I recall on the early kits the roof sat too high and had to be lowered, and the coupler pockets mounted the couplers too low. The bodies are a good starting point but that’s about all. If you have another option (i.e. resin) I would go with that. YMMV.

My advice has been, and is, throw away all parts sprues. The body moldings are fine, the rest is trash.

Tony Thompson



Re: Canadian Newsprint

Thomas Eide
 

Since the topic of Europe has come up with newsprint I read in these sources at one point on the east coast pulp or newsprint was coming in from Scandinavia! Pretty interesting. Also in the sources, Canada exported a large amount of newsprint to the United Kingdom as well. No surprise there. 


Re: Photo: SFRD 7029 (Rr-35)

kevinhlafferty
 

As others have stated those kits are a real nightmare. The parts sprues on the earliest kits were “salvageable” but as the tooling aged they became unusable. The flash on the sprues became as thick as the parts themselves; it was basically a blob of styrene. It’s been a while since I modified any, but as I recall on the early kits the roof sat too high and had to be lowered, and the coupler pockets mounted the couplers too low. The bodies are a good starting point but that’s about all. If you have another option (i.e. resin) I would go with that. YMMV.

 

Trying to stay warm in the tundra,

 

Kevin Lafferty

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2022 9:18 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SFRD 7029 (Rr-35)

 

The November 1994 Rail Model Journal has  Richard Hendrickson article on upgrading the CB&T cars.

 

Bill Paardie

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SFRD 7029 (Rr-35)

 

The C&BT RR-35 to -40 and RR-43/45 kits appear on eBay at fairly low prices with some frequency under "Body Style C" and "Body Style D" respectively. 

The bodies are good, but many parts could be upgraded. 

-Phil Lee


Re: Photo: SFRD 7029 (Rr-35)

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

The April 1993 Mainline Modeler also had a great article by Jim Teese on upgrading the CB&T cars.

How nice to have a library.

Bill Pardie



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


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From: "nyc3001 ." <nyc3001@...>
Date: 2/2/22 2:31 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SFRD 7029 (Rr-35)

The C&BT RR-35 to -40 and RR-43/45 kits appear on eBay at fairly low prices with some frequency under "Body Style C" and "Body Style D" respectively. 

The bodies are good, but many parts could be upgraded. 

-Phil Lee


Re: Photo: SFRD 7029 (Rr-35)

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

The November 1994 Rail Model Journal has  Richard Hendrickson article on upgrading the CB&T cars.

Bill Paardie



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "nyc3001 ." <nyc3001@...>
Date: 2/2/22 2:31 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SFRD 7029 (Rr-35)

The C&BT RR-35 to -40 and RR-43/45 kits appear on eBay at fairly low prices with some frequency under "Body Style C" and "Body Style D" respectively. 

The bodies are good, but many parts could be upgraded. 

-Phil Lee

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