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Re: Which sides, roof, etc (was Which trucks?)

Tony Thompson
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:

No way to know without a car record or photograph of the car. 

Luckily the SP Car Ledgers still exist.       Tony


Re: Which sides, roof, etc (was Which trucks?)

Tony Thompson
 

Earl Tuson wrote:

Trucks have been discussed, but is it possible to know whether an SP B-50-15 had been rebuilt to steel sides or received a new roof or other equipment?

Specifically, SP 31802 was interchanged onto the Suncook Valley RR on 11/24/1952, with an inbound load of lumber from Gurdon, AR, most probably destined to Emerson Manufacturing, a furniture manufacturer located in an old cotton mill in Suncook, NH. The empty car was returned to the B&M at Concord, NH four days later.

The SP Car Ledger shows that SP 31802 received steel sides in 1950. By that time, it had also received AB brakes, a geared handbrake, and U-section trucks.

Tony Thompson
tony@...


Re: Photo: Poultry Car

Douglas Harding
 

Here is a photo of a car being shrouded, and the video from which I captured the photo.

 

Doug Harding

https://www.facebook.com/douglas.harding.3156/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK8X8Yb8NEAZqbZjHT5z0sA

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ted Schnepf
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2022 9:27 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Poultry Car

 

Hello,

Are there any photos of poultry cars covered with canvas?

Ted Schnepf

On Sunday, February 13, 2022, 07:45:59 AM CST, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

 

 

Ray points out an aspect that may ease modeling poultry cars, especially if you model winter months. The canvas may be covering the car sides for travel in cold weather.

Ray Breyer suggested using aluminum foil recently when we were discussing a covering for the stake beds on Jordan Mack trucks. The same material would be easy to try with a poultry car. Cut it to fit then spray on color with a rattle can before installing it on the model.

I model mid November so this is something I’ll keep in mind.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

> On Feb 13, 2022, at 7:39 AM, Robert Ellis <bobjel67@...> wrote:
>
> Ray: I can't make out the wire in the photo, but I will assume it was regular chicken wire. Some years ago, in Railmodel Journal, Bob Schleicher suggested tulle to simulate chain link fence, so that might work. Tulle (I believe it's pronounced "tool") is a kind of lace, and you can get it in fabric stores. Hope this helps.  Bob Ellis.






Re: Sunshine PRR X37

Bruce Smith
 

Bob,

 

The Sunshine kits are flat kits, so in that respect, because you have to assemble the “box”, and sometimes Sunshine kits are completely symmetrical, they could be considered “more difficult”. OTOH, Sunshine kits generally have better instructions, and the parts are in grey resin, making it much easier to see what you are doing. The Sunshine parts also seem more crisply cast. The body casting on the F&C are also thicker than the Sunshine sides, so you have more to drill for grab irons, etc…

 

I have 2 from each company to build (several subclasses, plus the 50’ variant, the X38) and I’m hoping to get to them this year.  We did the “X37” as a project on the PRRPro group a few years ago now so those building these kits are welcome to check in and post there as well 😉

 

Sunshine has been out of business for many years now, so Sunshine kits are only seen on the resale market (eBay, auctions, some stores, etc…) and they can be quite pricey.

 

Regards,

Bruce

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Bob Morningstar via groups.io" <bobmorningstar@...>
Reply-To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:53 AM
To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Sunshine PRR X37

 

CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.

Are they difficult to build, say in relation to a Funaro & Camerlengo kit? 

You did a nice job on that.   Where did you get the kit?


Re: Sunshine PRR X37

Paul Doggett
 

Bob 

No they are usually pretty good to build the instructions are much better then Funaro and Camerlengo and there’s a prototype data sheet that’s 4 pages long. I found this one on U.K. eBay. The problem is Martin Lofton the Sunshine kit producer died about ten of so years ago.
Paul Doggett.   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 16 Feb 2022, at 16:53, Bob Morningstar via groups.io <bobmorningstar@...> wrote:

Are they difficult to build, say in relation to a Funaro & Camerlengo kit? 

You did a nice job on that.   Where did you get the kit?


Re: Weathered Rapido DS boxcars

Joe
 

Really great weathering!
Need to get your maintenance crew busy replacing the missing rung ;-)

[ADMIN: Per the list rules, please sign your messages with your full name.]


Re: Photo: Poultry Car

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello,

Are there any photos of poultry cars covered with canvas?

Ted Schnepf
On Sunday, February 13, 2022, 07:45:59 AM CST, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:


Ray points out an aspect that may ease modeling poultry cars, especially if you model winter months. The canvas may be covering the car sides for travel in cold weather.

Ray Breyer suggested using aluminum foil recently when we were discussing a covering for the stake beds on Jordan Mack trucks. The same material would be easy to try with a poultry car. Cut it to fit then spray on color with a rattle can before installing it on the model.

I model mid November so this is something I’ll keep in mind.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

> On Feb 13, 2022, at 7:39 AM, Robert Ellis <bobjel67@...> wrote:
>
> Ray: I can't make out the wire in the photo, but I will assume it was regular chicken wire. Some years ago, in Railmodel Journal, Bob Schleicher suggested tulle to simulate chain link fence, so that might work. Tulle (I believe it's pronounced "tool") is a kind of lace, and you can get it in fabric stores. Hope this helps.  Bob Ellis.







Re: Sunshine PRR X37

Bob Morningstar
 

Are they difficult to build, say in relation to a Funaro & Camerlengo kit? 

You did a nice job on that.   Where did you get the kit?


Re: Which sides, roof, etc (was Which trucks?)

Tim O'Connor
 

Earl

No way to know without a car record or photograph of the car. Wood sheathed cars continued in revenue service
even into the early 1960's. Steel rebuilding continued as late as 1956 according to Tony's SP Freight Cars Volume 4.

Cars rebuilt from 1950 onwards received new roofs - over 700 cars total [Vol 4].


On 2/16/2022 11:19 AM, Earl Tuson wrote:

Trucks have been discussed, but is it possible to know whether an SP B-50-15 had been rebuilt to steel sides or received a new roof or other equipment?

Specifically, SP 31802 was interchanged onto the Suncook Valley RR on 11/24/1952, with an inbound load of lumber from Gurdon, AR, most probably destined to Emerson Manufacturing, a furniture manufacturer located in an old cotton mill in Suncook, NH. The empty car was returned to the B&M at Concord, NH four days later.

If not know for certain, can anyone speak to relative probability for different aspects of the car's construction and equipment?

Earl Tuson


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


ADMIN : RE: [RealSTMFC] Policy changes at Yarmouth Model Works

Aley, Jeff A
 

Hi Folks,

In my judgement, it is okay for Pierre to notify us of the policy change for his business, which largely serves the STMFC community.

However, it is OFF TOPIC to discuss the reasons and/or politics behind those changes. Such discussions are appropriate for private emails - they should take place OFF-LIST.

Thanks,

-Jeff Aley
Deputy Moderator,
RealSTMFC

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pierre Oliver
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 6:13 AM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io; ResinFreightCarBuilders@groups.io; Proto-Layouts@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Policy changes at Yarmouth Model Works

Friends,
I very much regret having to do this, but government agencies have left me no choice

Due to changes at US Customs and Border Protection and Canada Post, we are no longer able to mail small parts orders as letter mail. As a result we have to implement a minimum order policy effective immediately.
Orders will now have to be have at least $40.00 before shipping costs are added.
I very much regret having to do this, but the government agencies leave me with option.

Bureaucrats sticking it to small business yet again

--
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Which sides, roof, etc (was Which trucks?)

Earl Tuson
 

Trucks have been discussed, but is it possible to know whether an SP B-50-15 had been rebuilt to steel sides or received a new roof or other equipment?

Specifically, SP 31802 was interchanged onto the Suncook Valley RR on 11/24/1952, with an inbound load of lumber from Gurdon, AR, most probably destined to Emerson Manufacturing, a furniture manufacturer located in an old cotton mill in Suncook, NH. The empty car was returned to the B&M at Concord, NH four days later.

If not know for certain, can anyone speak to relative probability for different aspects of the car's construction and equipment?

Earl Tuson


Re: Photo: ASF Dalman Patent Truck – C&O (Undated)

akerboomk
 

That's quite a bit of "crud" built up on the right wheel face
--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Policy changes at Yarmouth Model Works

Christopher J. Palermo
 

Not bureaucrats, but elected representatives. Canada, the US, and most other First World nations agreed in 2018, as part of their participation in the Universal Postal Union, to prohibit the transit of “merchandise” using international first class letter mail. Merchandise now must use parcel services and parcel pricing. The change was intended in part to equalize postal costs for small merchandise packets originating from China, the cost of which previously had been artificially low. Today’s bureaucrats are merely implementing what your nation’s UPU reps agreed to years ago.


Photo: B&LE Hopper 5783 (Undated)

David
 

With a CuFt rating of 1028 these cars must have been ~28 feet long, maybe 8 feet inside height.  Tiny.  I can’t find any on their 1930 ORER roster.
Yes, they were low-cube cars for iron ore transfer service. Original series was 5701-6100, sandwiched between the initial order for Schoen-design cars. The 1897 order was retired in the late 1920s.

David Thompson


Re: Suggestions for Commonwealth 90 T trucks?

Joseph
 

I have 2 pair commonwealth 90 ton trucks from ECW still on the sprue.  They are yours for the asking
Send me an email off list (with your snail mail address)if you want them
Joe Binish

On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 5:32 PM akerboomk <ken-akerboom@...> wrote:
Well, after searching everywhere I could think of (Bowser, Athearn, Tahoe, Rapido, shapeways, etc.) the best I can come up with are these:
https://americanscalemodels.com/HO/HO_Detail_Parts/Trucks?product_id=762
Although they still don't look quite the same as the ECW one.
Although expensive, they already come with 28" wheels (saving that expense) and being brass, they add some weight.

Anyone have (or know of) some of the ECW ones available for sale? (I searched the web, didn't come up with anything yet)

Any other suggestions?
--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Suggestions for Commonwealth 90 T trucks?

akerboomk
 

Well, after searching everywhere I could think of (Bowser, Athearn, Tahoe, Rapido, shapeways, etc.) the best I can come up with are these:
https://americanscalemodels.com/HO/HO_Detail_Parts/Trucks?product_id=762
Although they still don't look quite the same as the ECW one.
Although expensive, they already come with 28" wheels (saving that expense) and being brass, they add some weight.

Anyone have (or know of) some of the ECW ones available for sale? (I searched the web, didn't come up with anything yet)

Any other suggestions?
--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Photo: B&LE Hopper 5783 (Undated)

Eric Hansmann
 

Yes. Those are Pressed Steel Car Company diamond arch bar trucks. HO scale versions are available as 3D prints from Zenith Model Works. These were previewed on the DesignBuildOp blog last year. 

Cast metal versions were once produced by Bethlehem Car Works but the truck line was sold to LaBelle Woodworking. I don’t see these trucks on their website at the moment. 

The Reading also used these trucks under hoppers and boxcars. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN


On Feb 15, 2022, at 5:03 PM, Clarence Zink <clarence.zink@...> wrote:

I'm by no means a "truck expert", but those are some very curious looking trucks:

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Are they a form of 'arch bar' truck?  Or maybe a transition from arch bar into the next generation of truck?  I can't recall seeing them in any of the "truck" articles over the years.

CRZ


Re: Mobile Icing On The Santa Fe

Clarence Zink
 

Interesting!  The guy in the truck feeds very large blocks into a machine that then cuts/breaks the ice to size to go through the hatches.

CRZ


Re: What part of kit building causes the most swear words?

Clarence Zink
 

Yep, that first micro-instant when your brain registers that the part is defying the laws of gravity and will land out of sight.

CRZ


Re: Photo: B&LE Hopper 5783 (Undated)

Clarence Zink
 

I'm by no means a "truck expert", but those are some very curious looking trucks:



Are they a form of 'arch bar' truck?  Or maybe a transition from arch bar into the next generation of truck?  I can't recall seeing them in any of the "truck" articles over the years.

CRZ

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