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Re: CPR 50' Express Car Prototype

Benjamin Hom
 

Gavin asked:
"Recently just picked up this 50' Express Car painted in CPR Block, and I'm wondering if anyone knows the manufacturer/prototype."

Rob Kirkham replied:
"Roundhouse MDC (now Athearn?)"

The MDC Tooling did go to Horizon, but the 50 ft Express Reefers in previous releases under Horizon's "Roundhouse" line appear to be the Athearn express reefer.  The giveaway in the photos on their website is the higher arched roof of the Athearn model and lack of the large end sills of the MDC model. 

"I do not believe there was a single 50 CPR reefer let alone one with that configuration.   Not sure if it is close to a prototype for another line."

Lehigh Valley.  See "Lehigh Valley's 'New' Milk Cars", David Lambert with Chuck Yungkurth drawings, Railroad Model Craftsman, January 1993.


Ben Hom


Re: RDG box car on an NP peddler freight in 1958

William Dale
 

Yes, most certainly an XMt. The second batch built, 100500-100999, built 1925 by Standard Steel.

Billy


Re: PRR X28a and N&W BPa single-door boxcars

Chris Barkan
 

Ben and Fenton,

Thank you for your replies.  Upon reflection, the height difference makes sense given the original BPa cars' purpose.

Chris
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Re: PRR X28a and N&W BPa single-door boxcars

O Fenton Wells
 

Chris, Ben, has the right answer
Fenton

On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 9:47 AM O Fenton Wells via groups.io <srrfan1401=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Chris the RC version is too short.  I believe the F&C X 29B version works pretty well.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 8:54 AM Chris Barkan <cplbarkan@...> wrote:
This thread started with the question about whether the F&C X28 is accurate for the N&W BPa boxcars. A related question is whether the Red Caboose ARA 1932 steel boxcar (aka X29, M-26, etc) is accurate for the rebuilt N&W BPa boxcars?  If not, what are the principal discrepancies?

Thanks!
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Re: PRR X28a and N&W BPa single-door boxcars

O Fenton Wells
 

Chris the RC version is too short.  I believe the F&C X 29B version works pretty well.


On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 8:54 AM Chris Barkan <cplbarkan@...> wrote:
This thread started with the question about whether the F&C X28 is accurate for the N&W BPa boxcars. A related question is whether the Red Caboose ARA 1932 steel boxcar (aka X29, M-26, etc) is accurate for the rebuilt N&W BPa boxcars?  If not, what are the principal discrepancies?

Thanks!
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Re: PRR X28a and N&W BPa single-door boxcars

Benjamin Hom
 

Chris Barkan asked:
"This thread started with the question about whether the F&C X28 is accurate for the N&W BPa boxcars. A related question is whether the Red Caboose ARA steel boxcar (aka X29, M-26, etc) is accurate for the rebuilt N&W BPa boxcars?"

NO.


"If not, what are the principal discrepancies?"

Height is the biggest difference - the X29/Proposed ARA standard boxcar has 8 ft 7 in IH, the rebuilt automobile boxcars are 9 ft 3 IH.

FWIW, the Funaro Class X28A is actually a good starting point for the N&W single door cars, as it has a side sheathing error for the PRR cars (the second panel to the left of the door should be narrower than the rest as PRR sheathed over the door opening while keeping the existing side panels) that actually captures what's on the N&W car (equal side panels - see linked photo).
  

Ben Hom


Re: PRR X28a and N&W BPa single-door boxcars

Chris Barkan
 
Edited

This thread started with the question about whether the F&C X28 is accurate for the N&W BPa boxcars. A related question is whether the Red Caboose ARA steel boxcar (aka X29, M-26, etc) is accurate for the rebuilt N&W BPa boxcars?  If not, what are the principal discrepancies?

Thanks!
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Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL


Sunshine GN tongue in groove sided boxcar

Paul Doggett
 

Hi

Can anyone email me the PDS for this sunshine kit #18.6

Thank you in advance

Paul Doggett


Re: tank car identity

 

Gang, Here is a scan of the Champ HT-210 Baby Ruth under GATX rep marks

Rich Christie

On Monday, March 14, 2022, 06:21:14 PM CDT, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:


> Iirc on some black and white photo's silver can appear to be white. The silver was aluminum and not all that shiny under a cloudy sky.

Conversely, many tank car colors interpreted as aluminum were actually light gray. Richard Hendrickson accumulated a lot of evidence in that direction.

Tony Thompson





Saws for Modeling

Lester Breuer
 

At the Modelers Retreat, RPM in Plymouth, Minnesota, this past weekend the “UMM saw” sold by UMM-USA was discovered by some of the attending modelers.  A tool, a saw  purchased to help make saw cuts with almost no saw kerf.  And, the UMM saw cuts require little if any sanding.  If you are interested in seeing the UMM saw that improved my modeling and other saws that make our modeling easier, photos and writeup are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

 

 

Lester Breuer

 


Re: CPR 50' Express Car Prototype

Robert kirkham
 

Roundhouse MDC (now Athearn?) 

I do not believe there was a single 50 CPR reefer let alone one with that configuration.   Not sure if it is close to a prototype for another line.

Rob  

On Mar 14, 2022, at 3:47 PM, Gavin <senftgav@...> wrote:

Recently just picked up this 50' Express Car painted in CPR Block, and I'm wondering if anyone knows the manufacturer/prototype.
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Re: tank car identity

Tony Thompson
 

Iirc on some black and white photo's silver can appear to be white. The silver was aluminum and not all that shiny under a cloudy sky.
Conversely, many tank car colors interpreted as aluminum were actually light gray. Richard Hendrickson accumulated a lot of evidence in that direction.

Tony Thompson


CPR 50' Express Car Prototype

Gavin
 

Recently just picked up this 50' Express Car painted in CPR Block, and I'm wondering if anyone knows the manufacturer/prototype.


Re: RDG box car on an NP peddler freight in 1958

nyc3001 .
 

I think it's an 8'7" Reading XMt USRA clone based on the Murphy ends.

-Phil Lee


box car heights

Tim O'Connor
 


http://www.nprha.org/Ingles/Ingles_468_1_0815.jpg

I like this ^ NP freight train shot - 2 10-0 box cars, then 2 10-6 box cars, and then
what looks like 2 9-6 box cars. And one of the 9-6 box cars appears to be an MEC
box car in the green paint scheme.

Tim O'Connor


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Tim O'Connor
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RDG box car on an NP peddler freight in 1958

Tim O'Connor
 


not able to see the car number but it appears to be a distinctive freight car

http://www.nprha.org/Ingles/Ingles_468_1_0807.jpg


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Baby Ruth tank car (was tank car identity)

G.J. Irwin
 

For what it's worth, Micro-Trains released a series of N Scale Baby Ruth cars...

https://micro-trains.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=63_68_143

The source for most of their paint scheme selections was the "Billboard Refrigerator Cars" book.  Their body styles for the models are some degree of "stand in" -- the degree of stand in is of course up to the tastes of the individual modeler.

Pages 60 to 63 of the book have most of the reference photos.  Page 63 has a shot of NADX 375 which does appear to have the signature at the bottom of the tank.  My sense is that Micro-Trains has a better photo of the car than what's in the book.

George Irwin
The Unofficial Micro-Trains Release Report


Re: Baby Ruth reefer (was tank car identity)

gary laakso
 

The authors are Richard Hendrickson and Edward Kaminski.

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2022 7:50 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Baby Ruth reefer (was tank car identity)

 


Gary, what is this source "B
illboard Refrigerator Cars" you speak of ?  :-)

Tim O'Connor

On 3/13/2022 8:41 PM, gary laakso wrote:

Billboard Refrigerator Cars at page 14 has a colorized picture of this car in red with yellow lettering save for the yellow bar below where the lettering is black.  Pages 60-63 include other Baby Ruth cars, including the tank car with no comments on the colors.

 

Gary Laakso

 


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Tim O'Connor
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Re: Baby Ruth reefer (was tank car identity)

Tim O'Connor
 


Wow, how did I miss that one? :-D


On 3/14/2022 11:08 AM, Brian Carlson via groups.io wrote:
Not Gary but.
https://www.signaturepress.com/kaminski/BLBD.html
Brian J. Carlson 

On Mar 14, 2022, at 10:49 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Gary, what is this source "Billboard Refrigerator Cars" you speak of ?  :-)
Tim O'Connor

On 3/13/2022 8:41 PM, gary laakso wrote:

Billboard Refrigerator Cars at page 14 has a colorized picture of this car in red with yellow lettering save for the yellow bar below where the lettering is black.  Pages 60-63 include other Baby Ruth cars, including the tank car with no comments on the colors.

 

Gary Laakso



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Baby Ruth reefer (was tank car identity)

Brian Carlson
 

Not Gary but. 

On Mar 14, 2022, at 10:49 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



Gary, what is this source "B
illboard Refrigerator Cars" you speak of ?  :-)

Tim O'Connor

On 3/13/2022 8:41 PM, gary laakso wrote:

Billboard Refrigerator Cars at page 14 has a colorized picture of this car in red with yellow lettering save for the yellow bar below where the lettering is black.  Pages 60-63 include other Baby Ruth cars, including the tank car with no comments on the colors.

 

Gary Laakso



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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Cheektowaga NY

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