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Re: Loading Finished Lumber

Brian Stokes
 

It looks to be pretty clear and quarter-sawn wood, and it is being loaded indoors so probably high-value lumber. Great photo!



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Brian Stokes
North Point Street in Proto:48


Re: Loading Finished Lumber

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

My research on the Yosemite Valley Railroad suggested that, after abandonment, 10 of the YVRR log cars were sold to Red River Lumber Company. If someone has a copy of Hanft's book, I would appreciate confirmation of my research.

Jack Burgess
jack@...

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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nolan Hinshaw
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 11:50 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
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On Mar 19, 2022, at 10:58, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Loading Finished Lumber
A photo from the UC Davis Library’s Digital Collections:
https://digital.ucdavis.edu/collection/eastman/D-051/P-1/P-1776
What caught my eye about this photograph is the elaborate protective lining in the boxcar.
I’ve never seen this before. Anyone know how common this was?
I've not, but I suspect that it's select or better lumber; the "Red River" in the caption brings to mind Bob Hanft's book by that name, but my copy is inaccessible at the moment. If it's in the book or in a collection connected to the book, I'd suspect Westwood CA rather than Akeley MN, but that's showing my geographical bias.
--
Little Willie from the mirror sucked the mercury all off Thinking in his childish error it would cure his whooping cought.
At the funeral Willie's mother said to Mrs. Brown, "Twas a chilly day for Willie when the mercury went down.


Re: Loading Finished Lumber

Dave Nelson
 

List members may enjoy this photo of the sawdust mountain at Red River Lumber:

https://digital.ucdavis.edu/collection/eastman/D-051/P-0/P-0243

 

Dave Nelson


Re: Loading Finished Lumber

Dave Nelson
 

And here is the proof of craft paper as a boxcar liner: (same collection as before)

https://digital.ucdavis.edu/collection/eastman/D-051/P-1/P-1776

 

Dave Nelson

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 12:39 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Loading Finished Lumber

 


It's just kraft paper - Yes, high quality millwork number that nowadays would be wrapped
with paper. It's being carefully stacked, too.



Re: Loading Finished Lumber

Dave Nelson
 

It is Westwood CA., the date is 1936.

The Red River Lumber Co. was one of the largest in the west and Robert Hanff's book is an excellent account of its history.

A bit of trivia: AFAIK Red River took the folk lore Paul Bunyan and used the name and an image in its marketing starting .ca 1916-17 and lasting into WWII. Its use this way may explain why the folk lore became so well known.

Two other RR tidbits: They had a deal w/ PG&E for a certain amount of really inexpensive electricity. In the winter they closely monitored usage if there was plenty to spare they electrified a large grid of rails and dropped it into the ice cold holding pond so as to melt the ice on the lake.

2nd, when the soon-to-become Lake Almanor basin was identified as a reservoir, RR bid on blearing and got the contract. They then strung overhead wire above the WP main and used a pair of all-electric box cabs to move the logs to mill. Mind you, this is in the high Sierra.

Dave Nelson

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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nolan Hinshaw
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 11:50 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Loading Finished Lumber

On Mar 19, 2022, at 10:58, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Loading Finished Lumber
A photo from the UC Davis Library’s Digital Collections:
https://digital.ucdavis.edu/collection/eastman/D-051/P-1/P-1776
What caught my eye about this photograph is the elaborate protective lining in the boxcar.
I’ve never seen this before. Anyone know how common this was?
I've not, but I suspect that it's select or better lumber; the "Red River" in the caption brings to mind Bob Hanft's book by that name, but my copy is inaccessible at the moment. If it's in the book or in a collection connected to the book, I'd suspect Westwood CA rather than Akeley MN, but that's showing my geographical bias.
--
Little Willie from the mirror sucked the mercury all off Thinking in his childish error it would cure his whooping cought.
At the funeral Willie's mother said to Mrs. Brown, "Twas a chilly day for Willie when the mercury went down.


Re: Loading Finished Lumber

Tim O'Connor
 


It's just kraft paper - Yes, high quality millwork number that nowadays would be wrapped
with paper. It's being carefully stacked, too.


On 3/19/2022 3:00 PM, Charles Peck wrote:
Considering that the roof was covered as well, My guess is that it was for waterproofing. 
Perhaps straight grain millwork grade lumber, high value? 
Chuck Peck

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 1:58 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Loading Finished Lumber

A photo from the UC Davis Library’s Digital Collections:

https://digital.ucdavis.edu/collection/eastman/D-051/P-1/P-1776

What caught my eye about this photograph is the elaborate protective lining in the boxcar.

I’ve never seen this before. Anyone know how common this was?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Loading Finished Lumber

Todd Sullivan
 

I agree with Chuck.  The boards on the floor of the boxcar look to be high grade 'clear' pine, which is the most costly softwood 'stick lumber' available in hardware stores currently.

Todd Sullivan


Re: Loading Finished Lumber

Charles Peck
 

Considering that the roof was covered as well, My guess is that it was for waterproofing. 
Perhaps straight grain millwork grade lumber, high value? 
Chuck Peck

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 1:58 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Loading Finished Lumber

A photo from the UC Davis Library’s Digital Collections:

https://digital.ucdavis.edu/collection/eastman/D-051/P-1/P-1776

What caught my eye about this photograph is the elaborate protective lining in the boxcar.

I’ve never seen this before. Anyone know how common this was?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Loading Finished Lumber

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Mar 19, 2022, at 10:58, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Loading Finished Lumber
A photo from the UC Davis Library’s Digital Collections:
https://digital.ucdavis.edu/collection/eastman/D-051/P-1/P-1776
What caught my eye about this photograph is the elaborate protective lining in the boxcar.
I’ve never seen this before. Anyone know how common this was?
I've not, but I suspect that it's select or better lumber; the "Red River" in the caption brings to mind Bob Hanft's book by that name, but my copy is inaccessible at the moment. If it's in the book or in a collection connected to the book, I'd suspect Westwood CA rather than Akeley MN, but that's showing my geographical bias.
--
Little Willie from the mirror sucked the mercury all off
Thinking in his childish error it would cure his whooping cought.
At the funeral Willie's mother said to Mrs. Brown,
"Twas a chilly day for Willie when the mercury went down.


Re: Tools for carving off details

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Mar 18, 2022, at 16:14, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


I have found dental vendors at the Springfield MA show in January and at the RPM meet in Collinsville IL.
Local sellers with bins and bins full of cheap dental tools! I must have 2 dozen of the tools because they were
just a couple of bucks each.
That much? My dentist (a former neighbor and still a good friend) batches up his not-ready-for-prime-time tools for me and weighs me down every visit.
--
Willie was a chemist,
Now Willie is no more.
What Willie thought was H2O
Was H2SO4


Reading Boxcar 102610

Bob Chaparro
 

Reading Boxcar 102610

A photo from the UC Davis Library’s Digital Collections:

https://digital.ucdavis.edu/collection/eastman/D-051/P-1/P-1940

Use the + symbol and scroll to enlarge the photo.

Good detail of the car’s “A” end.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Loading Finished Lumber

Bob Chaparro
 

Loading Finished Lumber

A photo from the UC Davis Library’s Digital Collections:

https://digital.ucdavis.edu/collection/eastman/D-051/P-1/P-1776

What caught my eye about this photograph is the elaborate protective lining in the boxcar.

I’ve never seen this before. Anyone know how common this was?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: New resin freight car kits

lrkdbn
 

YES!!!!!!!
Larry King


Re: New resin freight car kits

Matt Smith
 

Phil,

I have a set of those, however they don't include the Peoria & Eastern lettering and I'm assuming the lot number or specific data for this series of hopper.
--
Matt Smith
Bloomington, IL


Tools for carving off details

Andy Carlson
 

I had, some years ago, a project to remove the door latches for a (beyond our era!) LifeLike Thrall all-door boxcar. This was before the Walthers better one arrived. That is a lot of door latches, and I tried placing a small Dremel end mill (This means the bottom is smooth with no cutting capability leaving all of the work to the side of the mill bit.

Keeping a perpendicular approach I was able to remove nearly all of the latch bars. The only problem is when the angle moves to even slightly off-perpendicular, and that would produce gouging. With careful work, this end mill use works well.
-Andy Carlson
Las Vegas, NV

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Re: New resin freight car kits

nyc3001 .
 

Matt, they're already available on the RCW site as part of a decal set for Central steel hoppers.

Frank, I'm looking forward to that release as well as the Cudahy reefers as I'd be down for multiples of both.

-Phil


Re: New resin freight car kits

Matt Smith
 

Frank,

Will you have any P&E decals available or have a source for them? Looking forward to to these!
--
Matt Smith
Bloomington, IL


Re: Tools for carving off details

Tim O'Connor
 


I have found dental vendors at the Springfield MA show in January and at the RPM meet in Collinsville IL.
Local sellers with bins and bins full of cheap dental tools! I must have 2 dozen of the tools because they were
just a couple of bucks each.

Tim O'Connor


On 3/18/2022 11:40 AM, Bill J. via groups.io wrote:
Eric, dental tools are great because you pull some of them instead of push.  My dentist called them curettes but said they’re expensive.  I went looking but couldn’t find exactly what you and LesterB recommended.

Where to find!?

Bill Jolitz 

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: DECO ends

John H. Reinhardt
 


Thank you for that.  I have the C&O magazine that this was taken from but who knows if I would have found it.  Intermountain was going to do these in N-Scale a few years ago but they didn't get the require number of reservations.  I have my doubts if they ever would.

-- 
John H. Reinhardt
  PRRT&HS  #8909
  C&O HS  #11530
  N-Trak   #7566
On 2/21/2022 7:35 PM, kevinhlafferty wrote:

This should help.

http://files.constantcontact.com/654d25d0101/2fe99140-9866-408f-9357-94263b90d093.pdf

 

Kevin Lafferty

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of greg kennelly
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 4:55 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] DECO ends

 

Can anyone direct me to a drawing or direct end view photo for the DECO ends used on the C&O 5400 series 10'-0" IH box cars, please?  I would like to model one of these cars in N Scale using the IM 10'-0" 1937 AAR box with the Des Plaines Hobbies Viking roof but will need to fabricate the DECO ends.  A search of my available CBCs (1928, 1931 & 1946) did not turn up anything and I also didn't find anything in the Files or Photos sections.  I have found an online 3/4 view photo but would like to find a more direct end view, if possible.

Thanks,
Greg Kennelly




Re: RDG box car on an NP peddler freight in 1958

Mark Rossiter
 

 

Billy, assuming you model in HO scale, Labelle has Taylor trucks in their product line.  I believe these originated in the Red Ball line, but I wouldn’t swear to it.

 

https://www.labellemodels.com/taylor-coil-spring-truck-p-1579.html

 

Mark Rossiter

 

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