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Re: Gon interior pt 1

Douglas Harding
 

Yep, just like hide cars. Wood cars were used, you just didn’t want them to leak, much.

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 1:18 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Gon interior pt 1

 


Urp. One of the cars has wood sides!

On 3/27/2022 1:27 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote:

Yes, it took real guts to handle these cars. Not so much to model them.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA

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--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Photo: T&NO Water Tank Car No. 398

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: T&NO Water Tank Car No. 398

Photo from Alamy:

https://tinyurl.com/39kum64x

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Alamy states the photo date is May 14, 2015, but I believe that is an error.

There are a number of SP and T&NO photos on this page. Just keep scrolling down and down to see more.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Grain industry rolling loads

Tim O'Connor
 


Years ago this was discussed - probably still in the message archive. I'm not sure about rollers - unsold cargo - but
there were single waybills in some cases that included a stopover at a large grain elevator for grading & sale.

On 3/27/2022 1:43 PM, Thomas Eide wrote:

I was talking to two of my friends Jim Dick and Greg Smith who live in the St. Paul, MN area about a question I have on operations. I was chatting about the grain industry. My question is: Was grain sold as a rolling load? Lumber, coal and produce was sold while rolling in transit. Country elevators fill up and the grain needs to go somewhere! Any help is appreciated!

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Gon interior pt 1

Tim O'Connor
 


Urp. One of the cars has wood sides!

On 3/27/2022 1:27 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote:

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Grain industry rolling loads

Thomas Eide
 

I was talking to two of my friends Jim Dick and Greg Smith who live in the St. Paul, MN area about a question I have on operations. I was chatting about the grain industry. My question is: Was grain sold as a rolling load? Lumber, coal and produce was sold while rolling in transit. Country elevators fill up and the grain needs to go somewhere! Any help is appreciated!


Re: Grain door lumber size

Bob Chaparro
 

Lyle Hetsler commented:

“I worked as a switchman in Neebing Ontario. They were often bundled up and left hanging out the door. When the empties were pulled slowly by the grain door shack they were taken out of the car and deposited in a bin. At the shack they would recycle the lumber and toss the card board.”

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Gon interior pt 1

Bob Chaparro
 

Yes, it took real guts to handle these cars. Not so much to model them.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Unbuilt kits

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Mar 27, 2022, at 07:59, BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...> wrote:

Tim’s comment reminds me of when I got out of the Army, and moved back to Houston to look for work in early 1987. I went to Joseph A. Bank to buy two “interview suits” (as most of my clothing was either BDU fatigues or dress greens and blues). After selecting and getting fitted for the suits, I salesman asked about shoes. Then he mentioned “when you invest in a good pair of shoes”.

In my mind, my reply was along the lines of “You mean I can resell these later for a profit????”
There's invest-ment, and invest-iture, Brian, and this could be the second meaning.
--
Willie was a chemist,
Now Willie is no more.
What Willie thought was H2O
Was H2SO4


Re: Unbuilt kits

 

Tim’s comment reminds me of when I got out of the Army, and moved back to Houston to look for work in early 1987. I went to Joseph A. Bank to buy two “interview suits” (as most of my clothing was either BDU fatigues or dress greens and blues). After selecting and getting fitted for the suits, I salesman asked about shoes. Then he mentioned “when you invest in a good pair of shoes”.

 

In my mind, my reply was along the lines of “You mean I can resell these later for a profit????”

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 9:49 AM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Unbuilt kits

 


In the business world we used to call this a "price umbrella" - Means the competition is setting
prices so high that it's easy to sell at lower asking prices that are still reasonable. I must be doing
something right with the prices I've asked recently because everything sells very quickly. Trains
are definitely NOT an 'investment' - we all should have learned that by now. :-D

Tim O'Connor


On 3/26/2022 10:41 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote:

Part of the no sale problem at shows is that the seller is asking two to  four time the original purchase price. I’m against profiteering in all forms, and I won’t pay a ‘storage fee’.

 

Nelson Moyer

 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Cat D-7 Tractor

Jay Styron
 

There are a few on eBay, built and priced accordingly.


Re: Unbuilt kits

Tim O'Connor
 


In the business world we used to call this a "price umbrella" - Means the competition is setting
prices so high that it's easy to sell at lower asking prices that are still reasonable. I must be doing
something right with the prices I've asked recently because everything sells very quickly. Trains
are definitely NOT an 'investment' - we all should have learned that by now. :-D

Tim O'Connor


On 3/26/2022 10:41 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote:

Part of the no sale problem at shows is that the seller is asking two to  four time the original purchase price. I’m against profiteering in all forms, and I won’t pay a ‘storage fee’.

 

Nelson Moyer



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Unbuilt kits

Richard McQuade
 

Who was it who once said, "the guy who dies with the most toys wins?"  :+)
Richard


Re: Unbuilt kits

Tim O'Connor
 


My Dad had a funny plaque up over his work bench in the basement - I don't recall the exact
words but it was something like "Don't start vast projects with half vast ideas." I inherited my Dad's
ability to plan half vastly. :-D


On 3/26/2022 4:35 PM, Paul Catapano wrote:

I often hear, on this list, about modelers who have a lot of unbuilt car kits awaiting assembly. I recently heard a term for unbuilt car kits.

“Boxes of Shame”

Paul Catapano

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Unbuilt kits

frograbbit602
 

Bruce I like it, “UFO = UnFinished Objects.”

I knew there was something unique about my cabinet of unbuilt kits each time I opened the doors and the feeling I got exploring it.   Now I know why, a “UFO Cabinet”.
Always something new to learn in this wonderful hobby we enjoy and Keep Sharing.
And, that UFO Cabinet enables us to-
Keep Modeling,
Lester Breuer



John Prophet III films

Brian Carlson
 

Guys. I don’t usually post you tube videos but this is a collection of John Prophet III films with narration by the the man himself. Now it’s mostly PRR focused but includes freight and passenger equipment in color from 1937 on. 

Grab a beverage and get comfortable. 


--
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: Unbuilt kits

Jeff Helm
 

As someone who hesitated to buy Sunshine and other resin or craftsman kits when I was just beginning to develop my modeling abilities because they were “beyond my skill set ”, I missed out on some great models with complexity that I’m now about ready to handle.  I feel fortunate that newer manufacturers such as Resin Car Works, Yarmouth and National Scale Car, along with other individuals like Chad Boas and Jerry Hamsmith, are producing some fine models for prototypes I now want.  I don’t hesitate to buy and stash now, having learned my lesson.  I have also chased down a few “must have” out-of-production kits on my wishlist through various means and will continue to do so.

I did amass a large stash of styrene kits and enjoy contemplating adding improved details or modifying them with mini kits that I am acquiring.  My collection of unbuilt kits and detail parts far outnumbers my completed projects for now, but I feel no shame, only anticipation.

Since I am still working full time, my modeling hours are quite limited.  I plan to accelerate my building within the next few years and hope to enjoy my hobby for many years in retirement if health and dexterity allow.  I’m cheered by seeing many highly skilled modelers in their retirement years on these forums.  


My advice to anyone who has a serious interest in high fidelity modeling would be not to hesitate in buying it when you see it, if your finances allow.

--
Cheers

Jeff Helm
The Olympic Peninsula Branch
https://olympicpeninsulabranch.blogspot.com/


Re: Gon interior pt 1

akerboomk
 

Or back in the day where meat processing offal was carried in gondolas.
There were a few brakemen who encountered a not so pleasant "surprise"
--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Unbuilt kits

Douglas Harding
 

I just tell my wife that is her “retirement fund”. And I thank this list for the investment recommendations that have been posted through the years. I value your input.

 


Re: Unbuilt kits

Larry Smith
 

I can relate to what Tom said, and I've seen it on two occasions where its not just unbuilt kits but the whole model railroad.  Two recent occasions was the removal of one layout that had been idle from 2009 in a basement where the dryer wasn't vented to the outside.  We had to take at least a 1/2" of lent from one of the buildings.  Another my club was trying to save the layout for use by our club, however the spouse decided that she wanted to keep it the way it was as a memorial to her husband.  That was over five years ago and none of us has seen it since.

Larry Smith

On Saturday, March 26, 2022, 09:41:38 PM CDT, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:


Part of the no sale problem at shows is that the seller is asking two to  four time the original purchase price. I’m against profiteering in all forms, and I won’t pay a ‘storage fee’.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charles Peck
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 9:22 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Unbuilt kits

 

It seems though, when I take those unbuilt kits to a show, very few get bought. 

Maybe those of us who do or have built kits haven't inspired but few younger 

hobbyists. Between failing eyesight and shaky hands, I'm not doing much building

any more. 

Chuck Peck 

 

On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 9:58 PM Tom Madden via groups.io <pullmanboss=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I'm in Bruce's range when it comes to unbuilt kits, which makes absolutely no sense considering my age and current hobby interests. Whenever someone is looking for a particular kit on one of these lists I almost always have one. But when I pull it out and have it in my hands I turn into Gollum, muttering about "My preciousssss..". and back on the shelf it goes. All the more ironic since I'm still dealing with Gail's stash of yarn, fabric, books, magazines and weaving equipment, almost four years after her death. But I know having all that meant a lot to her, and having all those kits means a lot to me. But still.....

Tom Madden


Re: Unbuilt kits

Nelson Moyer
 

Part of the no sale problem at shows is that the seller is asking two to  four time the original purchase price. I’m against profiteering in all forms, and I won’t pay a ‘storage fee’.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charles Peck
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 9:22 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Unbuilt kits

 

It seems though, when I take those unbuilt kits to a show, very few get bought. 

Maybe those of us who do or have built kits haven't inspired but few younger 

hobbyists. Between failing eyesight and shaky hands, I'm not doing much building

any more. 

Chuck Peck 

 

On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 9:58 PM Tom Madden via groups.io <pullmanboss=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I'm in Bruce's range when it comes to unbuilt kits, which makes absolutely no sense considering my age and current hobby interests. Whenever someone is looking for a particular kit on one of these lists I almost always have one. But when I pull it out and have it in my hands I turn into Gollum, muttering about "My preciousssss..". and back on the shelf it goes. All the more ironic since I'm still dealing with Gail's stash of yarn, fabric, books, magazines and weaving equipment, almost four years after her death. But I know having all that meant a lot to her, and having all those kits means a lot to me. But still.....

Tom Madden

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