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Re: ATSF boxcar with grain doors

O Fenton Wells
 

Nicely done Charlie.  Innovative
fenton

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 1:06 PM Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:

With the recent feedback on grain doors you all helped with I took an Intermountain Santa Fe boxcar kit I had and added grain doors.  The kit is factory paint, all I did was to add a ATSF reweigh station, light weight and a repack stencil.  Before adding the roof I cut some 2” x 8” HO wood strips I had and stained a few for some variation.  Kadee steel roof walk replaced the kit’s supplied one.  The doors are held on with double sided scrap booking tape. 



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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.



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Fenton Wells
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Re: ATSF boxcar with grain doors

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

This is a great reminder that despite the complaints that we have about some of the major suppliers their cars can look really great on a layout.

Bill Pardie

On Mar 30, 2022, at 7:17 AM, hubert mask <maskisland@...> wrote:

Great job Charlie.  I am getting grain harvest flash backs. O Keene Okarshi.

Hubert 


On Mar 30, 2022, at 1:06 PM, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:



With the recent feedback on grain doors you all helped with I took an Intermountain Santa Fe boxcar kit I had and added grain doors.  The kit is factory paint, all I did was to add a ATSF reweigh station, light weight and a repack stencil.  Before adding the roof I cut some 2” x 8” HO wood strips I had and stained a few for some variation.  Kadee steel roof walk replaced the kit’s supplied one.  The doors are held on with double sided scrap booking tape. 


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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.



Re: ATSF boxcar with grain doors

hubert mask
 

Great job Charlie.  I am getting grain harvest flash backs. O Keene Okarshi.

Hubert 


On Mar 30, 2022, at 1:06 PM, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:



With the recent feedback on grain doors you all helped with I took an Intermountain Santa Fe boxcar kit I had and added grain doors.  The kit is factory paint, all I did was to add a ATSF reweigh station, light weight and a repack stencil.  Before adding the roof I cut some 2” x 8” HO wood strips I had and stained a few for some variation.  Kadee steel roof walk replaced the kit’s supplied one.  The doors are held on with double sided scrap booking tape. 



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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: ATSF boxcar with grain doors

Tim O'Connor
 


Perfect !!

On 3/30/2022 1:06 PM, Charlie Duckworth wrote:

With the recent feedback on grain doors you all helped with I took an Intermountain Santa Fe boxcar kit I had and added grain doors.  The kit is factory paint, all I did was to add a ATSF reweigh station, light weight and a repack stencil.  Before adding the roof I cut some 2” x 8” HO wood strips I had and stained a few for some variation.  Kadee steel roof walk replaced the kit’s supplied one.  The doors are held on with double sided scrap booking tape. 



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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


ATSF boxcar with grain doors

Charlie Duckworth
 

With the recent feedback on grain doors you all helped with I took an Intermountain Santa Fe boxcar kit I had and added grain doors.  The kit is factory paint, all I did was to add a ATSF reweigh station, light weight and a repack stencil.  Before adding the roof I cut some 2” x 8” HO wood strips I had and stained a few for some variation.  Kadee steel roof walk replaced the kit’s supplied one.  The doors are held on with double sided scrap booking tape. 



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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


DL&W Open Hoppers

Brian Carlson
 

Has anyone every done a deep dive on DL&W open hoppers, both prototype and model? I searched the archives and found several discussions on a specific series or car. I'm interested in the post-war fleet. 
DL&W is underrepresented on my layout and I would like a hopper or two to deliver anthracite.
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Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: HO scale shingles

Ray Breyer
 

Also note that asphalt shingles have been in use since 1903 and common since 1911, so they're definitely not "modern" (a tip for you 1910s and 1920s modelers).

The first asphalt shingles were single 8"x16" shingles, and by the early 1920s 12"x20" two tab shingles were common.

The NPS has a nice compact history of early asphalt shingles online:


Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL



On Wednesday, March 30, 2022, 09:39:44 AM CDT, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


Note that 3-tab asphalt shingles weren’t standardized until the 1950s. At that time, they were definitely an “upgrade” that one would expect on the better homes in town…

 

Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, Al

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
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Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] HO scale shingles

 

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 05:47 AM, Gary McMills wrote:

I was attempting just to go one step better with the 3 tab black asphalt shingles.

I haven't had any experience with the recent gummed paper products, but I've shingled enough roofs to know that three tab shingles are a LOT smaller than modelers think... Each tab is 12" long and only 5-3/8" exposed to the weather. That's 1/16 of an actual inch in HO scale. I did a depot roof years ago using .060" Evergreen clapboard siding, scraping the face flatter with a razor blade so the exposed edges weren't as thick and then scribing the tab cuts every 12" on alternate rows... Never again! Most my buildings got roll roofing thereafter. There was a injection molded styrene product, about 2-1/2" x 11" sheet that was accurately scaled, but I forget the manufacturer; Rix, maybe.

Dennis Storzek


Re: HO scale shingles

Bruce Smith
 

Note that 3-tab asphalt shingles weren’t standardized until the 1950s. At that time, they were definitely an “upgrade” that one would expect on the better homes in town…

 

Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, Al

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
Reply-To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 9:06 AM
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Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] HO scale shingles

 

CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 05:47 AM, Gary McMills wrote:

I was attempting just to go one step better with the 3 tab black asphalt shingles.

I haven't had any experience with the recent gummed paper products, but I've shingled enough roofs to know that three tab shingles are a LOT smaller than modelers think... Each tab is 12" long and only 5-3/8" exposed to the weather. That's 1/16 of an actual inch in HO scale. I did a depot roof years ago using .060" Evergreen clapboard siding, scraping the face flatter with a razor blade so the exposed edges weren't as thick and then scribing the tab cuts every 12" on alternate rows... Never again! Most my buildings got roll roofing thereafter. There was a injection molded styrene product, about 2-1/2" x 11" sheet that was accurately scaled, but I forget the manufacturer; Rix, maybe.

Dennis Storzek


Re: HO scale shingles

Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
 

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 05:47 AM, Gary McMills wrote:
I was attempting just to go one step better with the 3 tab black asphalt shingles.
I haven't had any experience with the recent gummed paper products, but I've shingled enough roofs to know that three tab shingles are a LOT smaller than modelers think... Each tab is 12" long and only 5-3/8" exposed to the weather. That's 1/16 of an actual inch in HO scale. I did a depot roof years ago using .060" Evergreen clapboard siding, scraping the face flatter with a razor blade so the exposed edges weren't as thick and then scribing the tab cuts every 12" on alternate rows... Never again! Most my buildings got roll roofing thereafter. There was a injection molded styrene product, about 2-1/2" x 11" sheet that was accurately scaled, but I forget the manufacturer; Rix, maybe.

Dennis Storzek


Re: HO scale shingles

O Fenton Wells
 

Well done Eric, love the look and you captured the color
Fenton

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 9:50 AM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:
Sorry for jumping on the shingle train.

I use newsprint for rolled roofing. I spray a sheet using a rattle can. Green, primer red, and black are rolled roofing colors I've seen the most. I cut the sheet into strips about three scale feet wide and use rubber cement or canopy glue to install on the roof. I use a black Sharpie marker to add tar lines at the edges of the strips.

Here's an S scale AT&SF tool house I scratchbuilt. I sprayed primer red onto newsprint for the rolled roof material here.




Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN



On 03/30/2022 6:47 AM Gary McMills <santafe@...> wrote:


Steve is correct. these are company houses and usually would use the rolled roofing. I was attempting just to go one step better with the 3 tab black asphalt shingles.

Thanks to everyone who helped with their suggestions and I will plow through them today and find an acceptable one.

best regards,


Gary McMills - Vicksburg MS



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
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Re: HO scale shingles

Eric Hansmann
 

Sorry for jumping on the shingle train.

I use newsprint for rolled roofing. I spray a sheet using a rattle can. Green, primer red, and black are rolled roofing colors I've seen the most. I cut the sheet into strips about three scale feet wide and use rubber cement or canopy glue to install on the roof. I use a black Sharpie marker to add tar lines at the edges of the strips.

Here's an S scale AT&SF tool house I scratchbuilt. I sprayed primer red onto newsprint for the rolled roof material here.




Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN



On 03/30/2022 6:47 AM Gary McMills <santafe@...> wrote:


Steve is correct. these are company houses and usually would use the rolled roofing. I was attempting just to go one step better with the 3 tab black asphalt shingles.

Thanks to everyone who helped with their suggestions and I will plow through them today and find an acceptable one.

best regards,


Gary McMills - Vicksburg MS


Re: ATSF 6145

Brian Carlson
 

So…. You’ll be done by noon. :)

Brian J. Carlson 

On Mar 30, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Clark Propst via groups.io <cepropst@...> wrote:

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 03:39 PM, Allan Smith wrote:
I have conductors lists from the Sierra Railroad in 1952 & 1954. There are 26 Fe-26 ATSF cars on my lists. They were loaded with lumber for various cities in the east. 
 
Al Smith
Sonora CA
Oh Thanks!!! Just what I didn't need to hear  ;  )) I think I'll work on a door. If it turns out I'll go for the whole car.
Clark

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Cheektowaga NY


Re: ATSF 6145

Clark Propst
 

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 03:39 PM, Allan Smith wrote:
I have conductors lists from the Sierra Railroad in 1952 & 1954. There are 26 Fe-26 ATSF cars on my lists. They were loaded with lumber for various cities in the east. 
 
Al Smith
Sonora CA
Oh Thanks!!! Just what I didn't need to hear  ;  )) I think I'll work on a door. If it turns out I'll go for the whole car.
Clark


Re: HO scale shingles

Scott Kremer
 

Try Nick and Nora Models.  Great product multiple colors and styles 


On Mar 29, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Joseph <Mstl852@...> wrote:


Northeastern(I think) makes a sheet of paper shingles assembled so all you need to do is cut to size.  I have used on a couple of buildings 
Joe Binish, New Hope MN

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 6:15 PM Patrick Wade <patwadesb@...> wrote:
Campbell's at one time made shingles that can in a long roll. As I recall they had glue on the back that you simply moistened.

Pat Wade
Santa Barbara, CA

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 3:48 PM Gary McMills <santafe@...> wrote:

I am building several company houses in HO scale and I would like to model them with shingles for their roofs.

Is there a manufacturer that makes nice scale shingles in HO scale ?


best regards,

Gary McMills - Vicksburg Miss.


Re: HO scale shingles

Gary McMills
 

Steve is correct. these are company houses and usually would use the rolled roofing. I was attempting just to go one step better with the 3 tab black asphalt shingles.

Thanks to everyone who helped with their suggestions and I will plow through them today and find an acceptable one.

best regards,


Gary McMills - Vicksburg MS


On 2022-03-29 22:24, Steve Summers via groups.io wrote:

I hate to stir up trouble with all the references to great looking shingles, but the original email was about company houses. While I believe all the shingles mentioned are nice, company house weren't always nice. The companies tried to keep the expense of building houses at a minimum, especially remote coal or lumber camp houses. Roll roofing was cheaper and easier to install, hence, many company houses had roll roofing when built. I suggest at least evaluating roll roofing for your company houses.

 

On Mar 29, 2022, at 8:29 PM, Jason P <gmo1515@...> wrote:

Cambell's shingles are classics in the model railroading community but they seem best for simulating wood shake style shingles but if he's trying to represent asphalt shingles then probably any of the suggestions that Larry mentioned below would be better suited for he'd need. 
 
-Jason
On 03/29/2022 7:19 PM Larry Smith <wooddale@...> wrote:
 
 
 
They come in all shapes and sizes in HO.  Here's some of the companies who make shingles.  PS Campbell's still does and you can order them on line.  OK here goes: BTS, BEST, Builders in Scale, Bar Mills, Rail Scale, Fox Scale, KC's Workshop, Carolina Craftsman, Northeastern.  Take you pick.
 
Larry Smith
 
On Tuesday, March 29, 2022, 06:51:37 PM CDT, James Brewer <jim.brewer.3611@...> wrote:
 
 

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 7:19 PM Joseph <Mstl852@...> wrote:
Northeastern(I think) makes a sheet of paper shingles assembled so all you need to do is cut to size.  I have used on a couple of buildings 
Joe Binish, New Hope MN

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 6:15 PM Patrick Wade <patwadesb@...> wrote:
Campbell's at one time made shingles that can in a long roll. As I recall they had glue on the back that you simply moistened.
 
Pat Wade
Santa Barbara, CA

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 3:48 PM Gary McMills <santafe@...> wrote:

I am building several company houses in HO scale and I would like to model them with shingles for their roofs.

Is there a manufacturer that makes nice scale shingles in HO scale ?


best regards,

Gary McMills - Vicksburg Miss.








Re: HO scale shingles

Steve Summers
 

I hate to stir up trouble with all the references to great looking shingles, but the original email was about company houses. While I believe all the shingles mentioned are nice, company house weren’t always nice. The companies tried to keep the expense of building houses at a minimum, especially remote coal or lumber camp houses. Roll roofing was cheaper and easier to install, hence, many company houses had roll roofing when built. I suggest at least evaluating roll roofing for your company houses.


On Mar 29, 2022, at 8:29 PM, Jason P <gmo1515@...> wrote:


Cambell's shingles are classics in the model railroading community but they seem best for simulating wood shake style shingles but if he's trying to represent asphalt shingles then probably any of the suggestions that Larry mentioned below would be better suited for he'd need. 

-Jason
On 03/29/2022 7:19 PM Larry Smith <wooddale@...> wrote:



They come in all shapes and sizes in HO.  Here's some of the companies who make shingles.  PS Campbell's still does and you can order them on line.  OK here goes: BTS, BEST, Builders in Scale, Bar Mills, Rail Scale, Fox Scale, KC's Workshop, Carolina Craftsman, Northeastern.  Take you pick.

Larry Smith

On Tuesday, March 29, 2022, 06:51:37 PM CDT, James Brewer <jim.brewer.3611@...> wrote:



On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 7:19 PM Joseph <Mstl852@...> wrote:
Northeastern(I think) makes a sheet of paper shingles assembled so all you need to do is cut to size.  I have used on a couple of buildings 
Joe Binish, New Hope MN

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 6:15 PM Patrick Wade <patwadesb@...> wrote:
Campbell's at one time made shingles that can in a long roll. As I recall they had glue on the back that you simply moistened.

Pat Wade
Santa Barbara, CA

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 3:48 PM Gary McMills <santafe@...> wrote:

I am building several company houses in HO scale and I would like to model them with shingles for their roofs.

Is there a manufacturer that makes nice scale shingles in HO scale ?


best regards,

Gary McMills - Vicksburg Miss.








Re: HO scale shingles BEST shingles

Kenneth Montero
 

Tichy has slate shingles (part no. 8135) and "snowbirds" to keep snow from sliding off the roof (part no. 8207).  https://www.tichytraingroup.com/Shop/tabid/91/c/ho_structure-parts/PageIndex/2/Default.aspx

Ken Montero

On 03/29/2022 9:15 PM Richard McQuade via groups.io <richardmcquade@...> wrote:


I've been using BEST shingles (Bollinger Edgely Scale Trains), I picked them up at the Amherst Train Show a few years ago, They are self sticking and come off their carrier sheet in a row, look great and have a nice texture, I've only used them smaller buildings. It wouldt ake qute some time to do a very large buiiding. I hgihly recommend them. Here's the site address: Bollinger Edgerly Scale Trains - Shingles (besttrains.com)


Re: HO scale shingles BEST shingles

Richard McQuade
 

I've been using BEST shingles (Bollinger Edgely Scale Trains), I picked them up at the Amherst Train Show a few years ago, They are self sticking and come off their carrier sheet in a row, look great and have a nice texture, I've only used them smaller buildings. It wouldt ake qute some time to do a very large buiiding. I hgihly recommend them. Here's the site address: Bollinger Edgerly Scale Trains - Shingles (besttrains.com)


Re: HO scale shingles

Eric Hansmann
 

N Scale Architect has a nice slate roofing sheet. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Mar 29, 2022, at 7:29 PM, Jason P <gmo1515@...> wrote:

Cambell's shingles are classics in the model railroading community but they seem best for simulating wood shake style shingles but if he's trying to represent asphalt shingles then probably any of the suggestions that Larry mentioned below would be better suited for he'd need. 

-Jason
On 03/29/2022 7:19 PM Larry Smith <wooddale@...> wrote:



They come in all shapes and sizes in HO.  Here's some of the companies who make shingles.  PS Campbell's still does and you can order them on line.  OK here goes: BTS, BEST, Builders in Scale, Bar Mills, Rail Scale, Fox Scale, KC's Workshop, Carolina Craftsman, Northeastern.  Take you pick.

Larry Smith

On Tuesday, March 29, 2022, 06:51:37 PM CDT, James Brewer <jim.brewer.3611@...> wrote:



On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 7:19 PM Joseph <Mstl852@...> wrote:
Northeastern(I think) makes a sheet of paper shingles assembled so all you need to do is cut to size.  I have used on a couple of buildings 
Joe Binish, New Hope MN

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 6:15 PM Patrick Wade <patwadesb@...> wrote:
Campbell's at one time made shingles that can in a long roll. As I recall they had glue on the back that you simply moistened.

Pat Wade
Santa Barbara, CA

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 3:48 PM Gary McMills <santafe@...> wrote:

I am building several company houses in HO scale and I would like to model them with shingles for their roofs.

Is there a manufacturer that makes nice scale shingles in HO scale ?


best regards,

Gary McMills - Vicksburg Miss.








Re: HO scale shingles

Jason P
 

Cambell's shingles are classics in the model railroading community but they seem best for simulating wood shake style shingles but if he's trying to represent asphalt shingles then probably any of the suggestions that Larry mentioned below would be better suited for he'd need. 

-Jason

On 03/29/2022 7:19 PM Larry Smith <wooddale@...> wrote:



They come in all shapes and sizes in HO.  Here's some of the companies who make shingles.  PS Campbell's still does and you can order them on line.  OK here goes: BTS, BEST, Builders in Scale, Bar Mills, Rail Scale, Fox Scale, KC's Workshop, Carolina Craftsman, Northeastern.  Take you pick.

Larry Smith

On Tuesday, March 29, 2022, 06:51:37 PM CDT, James Brewer <jim.brewer.3611@...> wrote:



On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 7:19 PM Joseph <Mstl852@...> wrote:
Northeastern(I think) makes a sheet of paper shingles assembled so all you need to do is cut to size.  I have used on a couple of buildings 
Joe Binish, New Hope MN

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 6:15 PM Patrick Wade <patwadesb@...> wrote:
Campbell's at one time made shingles that can in a long roll. As I recall they had glue on the back that you simply moistened.

Pat Wade
Santa Barbara, CA

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 3:48 PM Gary McMills <santafe@...> wrote:

I am building several company houses in HO scale and I would like to model them with shingles for their roofs.

Is there a manufacturer that makes nice scale shingles in HO scale ?


best regards,

Gary McMills - Vicksburg Miss.







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