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Re: ATSF boxcar with grain doors

Bob Chaparro
 

I'll second using the Prismacolor Verithin pencils.
They work very well and are very easy to use.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Gene Semon

Tony Thompson
 

Very sorry to hear about Gene’s passing. I never met him in person, but he was the “contact” person when the ART book was put together, admittedly with a variety of “working parts” due to its history (all described in the Foreword). Gene was an unfailingly cooperative, responsive, helpful and positive person throughout the process of selecting photos, revising text, and other matters. (I acted as Editor for the book.) I developed great respect for him, and I’m sorry to hear he’s gone.

Tony Thompson


Re: HO scale shingles

 

I'm completing a building using the Plastruct shake shingles John has mentioned. "Good enough" for my layout as well but not contest quality for sure. My only objection is the shingles have rounded edges and are not flat. I use Scotch Super 77 spray adhesive to get them to stick to the subroof.
Gordon


Re: Gene Semon

Jerry Michels
 

Gary, this is terrible news.  I am glad you posted it.  Gene was a good friend that I knew since the 1970s when he resurrected the Missouri Pacific Historical Society. I am sure going to miss him.  Jerry Michels


Re: DL&W Open Hoppers

Tom Madden
 

Two weeks ago DL&W guru Mike Del Vecchio posted to the Lackawanna Facebook group that the recent Resin Car Works NYC hopper mini-kit might be suitable for modeling the Lackawanna's Enterprise taper (chisel side) two bay 100 ton hoppers, of which there were 1000 in two series. (83300 - 83799, Magor Car and ACF, 1934, and 85000 - 85499, ACF, 1940. The two were dimensionally identical but the 1940 cars were lighter by a little over two tons). The NYC mini-kit isn't suitable as it's designed for the Tichy or Accurail USRA hoppers and is too short, but the RCW IC hopper is very close. Major difference is the DL&W hoppers are 34' IL and the IC is 33'. The problem would be decals. I understand from Mike that suitable artwork exists but the decals have yet to be produced.

Tom Madden


Gene Semon

Gary Roe
 

I am sorry to report that Gene died on Tuesday, 29 Mar.  He has been my friend for 50 years.  We were brought together via our hobby of model railroading, bolstered by our time working for the real thing.  In Gene's case, it was the Missouri Pacific.  He was extremely knowledgeable about their equipment; and was coauthor of the Signature Press book on The American Refrigerator Transit.  He was also a good modeler; and had a nearly complete model railroad based on the Missouri-Illinois, an MP subsidiary.

May he Rest in Peace.

gary roe
quincy, illinois


Re: DL&W Open Hoppers

Chuck Cover
 

There was an excellent article in the June-July 1985 Prototype Modeler by Wayne Sittner “Lackawanna 50-Ton two-bay Hoppers.”  About 25 years ago, I kit-bashed a couple of these for my PRR Shamokin Branch layout.

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


Re: ATSF boxcar with grain doors

Charlie Duckworth
 

Bill
I don’t use decals, I pull out a color book and flip though and pick out a few examples of prototype chalk marks and as Brian said, sharpen a white pencil and replicate them.  Some I go very lightly to age them or go over them with my finger to dull them.  I also use the Gelly roll white ink pen for some markings but the pencil is my first choice.  



--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: ATSF boxcar with grain doors

Brian Carlson
 

Colored pencils work well. Need to keep them Very sharp. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Mar 31, 2022, at 10:30 AM, Bill J. via groups.io <jolitzwr@...> wrote:

Charlie, chalk marks!?

Whose?

I contacted Clover House about their product.  Owner said he couldn’t find anyone who could print them the same way with the same quality so he wouldn’t reprint.  Short sighted if you ask me.

We hobbyists need a new source with the same images!

still, thanks to National Car and Microscale.

bill jolitz

--
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: ATSF boxcar with grain doors

Bill J.
 

Charlie, chalk marks!?

Whose?

I contacted Clover House about their product.  Owner said he couldn’t find anyone who could print them the same way with the same quality so he wouldn’t reprint.  Short sighted if you ask me.

We hobbyists need a new source with the same images!

still, thanks to National Car and Microscale.

bill jolitz


Re: DL&W Open Hoppers

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 


Hi List Members,
 
I don't know of anything specific in the model railroad enthusiast press, but perhaps this image below might provide a starting point for further input and discussion on the original question...
 
 
Date is given as 1930s-1940s
 
Quite a variety!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] DL&W Open Hoppers

Brian,
     A few years back there was a magazine article that dove into your question. Now, could I remember where it appeared, no, but lean heavily towards RMC. The Tichy/Accurail USRA works, and surprisingly the TM/Walthers 36’ two bay as well. Now, one of the offset three bay hoppers also works, but I can’t recall which manufacturer. There was a slight deviation as to how the sides were done. Finally, we are fortunate that Shortline Model Products does great decals for these mentioned above. A word of note, the USRA two bay painted at Steamtown in Scranton is wrong.

Billy


Re: DL&W Open Hoppers

William Dale
 

Brian,
     A few years back there was a magazine article that dove into your question. Now, could I remember where it appeared, no, but lean heavily towards RMC. The Tichy/Accurail USRA works, and surprisingly the TM/Walthers 36’ two bay as well. Now, one of the offset three bay hoppers also works, but I can’t recall which manufacturer. There was a slight deviation as to how the sides were done. Finally, we are fortunate that Shortline Model Products does great decals for these mentioned above. A word of note, the USRA two bay painted at Steamtown in Scranton is wrong.

Billy


Re: Cat D-7 Tractor

Daniel A. Mitchell
 

I have had several Artitec models on order for perhaps two years … and still not received. I actually get about 40% of what I order. They ARE nice!

The Wheels of Time AC HD-21 is decent, but basic, and certainly not as detailed as the Artitec Cat D7. A couple hours spent detailing it would make it more-or-less comparable. It is nice to have a model of something other than the ubiquitous Caterpillar models.

The Wheels of Time AC HD-21 is also a larger and more modern tractor, more the size of a late D8 or D9, and of 1955-1964 vintage. The Artitec D7 is WWII to 1950 vintage. Of course many of these machines were around for years after they were built … a few still today.

Dan Mitchell
==========

On Mar 30, 2022, at 7:27 PM, Jeff Helm <jeff.helm.60@...> wrote:

I have had this Artitec tractor on order from Reynaulds for over a year, and they just informed me that it is out of production.  Kit number 10.355 is still shown at Artitec’s website but has been out of stock and no information on when more might be produced.

A potential alternative is a 3D printed model of a similar Allis Chalmers HD-21 tractor available from Wheels of Time. Wheelsotime.com. It appears they have the flatcar load version (less blade) in stock, but not the kit with the blade currently.
--
Cheers

Jeff Helm
The Olympic Peninsula Branch
https://olympicpeninsulabranch.blogspot.com/



Re: Westerfield CB&Q XM-18 off the bench

Charlie Duckworth
 

I hate to spend hours building a kit only to deal with the decals silvering.  I lay down a high gloss clear coat made by Alclad (ALC 310) that gives almost a mirror finish.  Then apply the decals, first using Micro Set Blue and after it’s dry Micro Sol Red.  Any silvering is ‘peppered’ with a needle and more Red is used.  If silvering reappears I use Tamiya’s Markfit Strong or Mr. Mark Setter and this usually takes care of any silvering.  At this point I use a new single edge razor blade and score through the decals on each vertical board seam. If not Walthers Solvaset will be my last resort as it melts most decals.  After the decals are dry I spray a coat of the Gloss over them to seal the edges and once dry a coat of Dullcote. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: 50’ Rectangle Panel Roof ISO

Tim O'Connor
 


I recall that the first Proto 2000 50 foot rectangular panel (aka Murphy, aka SRE) roofs were actually
incorrect - they had too few or too many panels! (I forget which.) This was later corrected. So make sure
you use the correct donor roof. :-)

Splicing two RP 40 foot roofs works too.

Tim O'Connor

On 3/30/2022 8:33 PM, Tom Lawler wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I am searching for a source for the pictured roof (assuming the picture comes through). If not it is a Rectangle Paneled Roof. It came in a Sunshine ATSF 50’ box car. It appears like a Life Life roof would probably do the job. I guess I would have to buy a kit just for the roof. Anyone have a roof of this nature they would like to sell? I understand some vendors made these but they are no longer available. Please contact me off list if you have any ideas.

Thank you,

Tom

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: 50’ Rectangle Panel Roof ISO

Chad Boas
 

Tom,
Something like this? I made one for the B&O 50' that I'm working on. It fits the Branchline 50' kit
Chad


Re: 50’ Rectangle Panel Roof ISO

O Fenton Wells
 

Try Chad Boas he may have them or Mike Brock


On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 10:57 PM Allan Smith <smithal9@...> wrote:

I think the closest you will be able to find is the roof off of a Walthers 50' Automobile Boxcar. The proto 2000 series. The athearn 50' boxcar has a 14 panel roof but the Walthers car has a 15 panel roof. All the panels are the same width on the above cars where as the roof you picture it looks like the two end panels are wider.

Al Smith
Sonora CA
On Wednesday, March 30, 2022, 05:33:17 PM PDT, Tom Lawler <tjlawler@...> wrote:


Hello Everyone,

I am searching for a source for the pictured roof (assuming the picture comes through). If not it is a Rectangle Paneled Roof. It came in a Sunshine ATSF 50’ box car. It appears like a Life Life roof would probably do the job. I guess I would have to buy a kit just for the roof. Anyone have a roof of this nature they would like to sell? I understand some vendors made these but they are no longer available. Please contact me off list if you have any ideas.

Thank you,

Tom









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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: FORGOTTEN TREASURES

Scott H. Haycock
 

Hi Bill,

MM was the magazine that first sparked my interest in prototype equipment modeling, and the overall idea of modeling from the prototype, as much as possible.

Do you know what happened to the end of the Southern Deck Truss project?

Scott Haycock
Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantm
ent

On 03/31/2022 12:42 AM WILLIAM PARDIE <pardiew001@...> wrote:


The May 1990 issue was lost on the way to the publisher.  I was quite disappo8nted as thus issue was to contain part two of the artucle on Southern Pacific P-10 Pacific's.  A project near and dear to me.

Years later I met Bob Hundman at Naperville.  I bought the topic up.  Bob told me the story and was more than extremely gracious.  He sent me the photographic material that was to accompany the article.

This story illustrates not only the quality that Bob possessed but the same caring and generosity shared by most all of the people who are associated with this hobby. 

Bill Pardie


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "Scott H. Haycock" <shhaycock@...>
Date: 3/30/22 6:55 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] FORGOTTEN TREASURES

Hi Dave,

There was no May '90 Issue.

Scott Haycock
Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantm
ent

On 03/30/2022 10:45 PM Dave Nelson <western.pacific.203@...> wrote:


Bill, was there an issue for May, 1990?  It’s the only issue I don’t have and I’ve often wondered whether there really was a May ’90 issue.

 

Dave Nelson

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 7:33 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] FORGOTTEN TREASURES



IMHO there was never before or after a publication of the quality and depth of subject as Bob Hundman's Mainline Modeler in our hobby. The articles, drawings, how to's and prototype information is unmatched.  The twenty plus years of this magazines  run gave us more information than we can ever absorbance apply.


Why, you ask, am I bringing this up?  I subscribed to this publication from the first to the last issue.  Many items were skipped over and forgotten during this time as they were not pertinent back then.  This morning I had to find an article for a current project that I an working on.  Each issue of this magazine featured a listing of the artucles in each issue from day one.  Not five minutes into this venture I had to get a note pad to record forgotten items that I now need.  After twenty minutes when I found the article I has listed twenty five articles to retrieve.


I know that many of you have this magazine digitized.  I encourage you to look at this periodically and you will find the answers to many questions appearing on this list.


I have to spend less time with Judge Judy and more with this endeavor.


Bill Pardie



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone




Re: FORGOTTEN TREASURES

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

The May 1990 issue was lost on the way to the publisher.  I was quite disappo8nted as thus issue was to contain part two of the artucle on Southern Pacific P-10 Pacific's.  A project near and dear to me.

Years later I met Bob Hundman at Naperville.  I bought the topic up.  Bob told me the story and was more than extremely gracious.  He sent me the photographic material that was to accompany the article.

This story illustrates not only the quality that Bob possessed but the same caring and generosity shared by most all of the people who are associated with this hobby. 

Bill Pardie


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "Scott H. Haycock" <shhaycock@...>
Date: 3/30/22 6:55 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] FORGOTTEN TREASURES

Hi Dave,

There was no May '90 Issue.

Scott Haycock
Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantm
ent

On 03/30/2022 10:45 PM Dave Nelson <western.pacific.203@...> wrote:


Bill, was there an issue for May, 1990?  It’s the only issue I don’t have and I’ve often wondered whether there really was a May ’90 issue.

 

Dave Nelson

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 7:33 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] FORGOTTEN TREASURES



IMHO there was never before or after a publication of the quality and depth of subject as Bob Hundman's Mainline Modeler in our hobby. The articles, drawings, how to's and prototype information is unmatched.  The twenty plus years of this magazines  run gave us more information than we can ever absorbance apply.


Why, you ask, am I bringing this up?  I subscribed to this publication from the first to the last issue.  Many items were skipped over and forgotten during this time as they were not pertinent back then.  This morning I had to find an article for a current project that I an working on.  Each issue of this magazine featured a listing of the artucles in each issue from day one.  Not five minutes into this venture I had to get a note pad to record forgotten items that I now need.  After twenty minutes when I found the article I has listed twenty five articles to retrieve.


I know that many of you have this magazine digitized.  I encourage you to look at this periodically and you will find the answers to many questions appearing on this list.


I have to spend less time with Judge Judy and more with this endeavor.


Bill Pardie



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone




Re: FORGOTTEN TREASURES

Scott H. Haycock
 

Hi Dave,

There was no May '90 Issue.

Scott Haycock
Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantm
ent

On 03/30/2022 10:45 PM Dave Nelson <western.pacific.203@...> wrote:


Bill, was there an issue for May, 1990?  It’s the only issue I don’t have and I’ve often wondered whether there really was a May ’90 issue.

 

Dave Nelson

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 7:33 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] FORGOTTEN TREASURES



IMHO there was never before or after a publication of the quality and depth of subject as Bob Hundman's Mainline Modeler in our hobby. The articles, drawings, how to's and prototype information is unmatched.  The twenty plus years of this magazines  run gave us more information than we can ever absorbance apply.


Why, you ask, am I bringing this up?  I subscribed to this publication from the first to the last issue.  Many items were skipped over and forgotten during this time as they were not pertinent back then.  This morning I had to find an article for a current project that I an working on.  Each issue of this magazine featured a listing of the artucles in each issue from day one.  Not five minutes into this venture I had to get a note pad to record forgotten items that I now need.  After twenty minutes when I found the article I has listed twenty five articles to retrieve.


I know that many of you have this magazine digitized.  I encourage you to look at this periodically and you will find the answers to many questions appearing on this list.


I have to spend less time with Judge Judy and more with this endeavor.


Bill Pardie



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone



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