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Re: Photo: SP&S Gondola 23038

passcars
 

This is a trunnion type coupler carrier. It functions much as do swing hangers on passenger truck assemblies.  The coupler shank rests on the support bar which is suspended on each end by swing hanger links.  It serves to act as a coupler centering device.

Steve Peery


Re: PFE R-40-4 series?

Dick Harley
 


Not quite that simple, Tony. 

The June 1946 double medallion scheme with color UP medallion, Black hardware and units on the dimensional and CAPY data had the SP medallion next to the door. 
The January 1948 scheme with what we are now believing was a B&W UP medallion, Orange side hardware and no units on the dimensional and CAPY data still had the SP medallion next to the door. 
The June 1950 scheme with a B&W UP medallion with "Railroad", Orange side hardware and no units on the dimensional and CAPY data still had the SP medallion next to the door. 
The June 1951 scheme with a B&W UP medallion with "Railroad", Orange fan hardware and side sill tabs still had the SP medallion next to the door.  Periods were removed from the reporting marks. 
The August 1951 scheme introduced the "SP medallion toward the B-end" scheme to cars with both UP and SP medallions on both sides.
The 1-inch horizontal stripes around the reporting marks and car number were removed in February 1952, and the end car number became 4-inch instead of 7-inch on all wood-end cars.


Hope this helps,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach,  CA

  


Re: Candidates for Accurail cars

Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
 

On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 09:59 AM, Marty McGuirk wrote:
CN 573500 series total of 1179 cars, were themselves rebuilt from the 582000-582499 series cars. I’ve attached a side on view of the original 582000 car, which were 1-1/2 door cars, for comparison to the Accurail model. I personally don’t think the Accurail model is close enough to this particular group of cars, especially when there are more accurate choices for the Accurail car, and the basic Accurail model is a model of a CN car.  For starters, the Accurail car is a 9-foot tall car, the 573500 series were 10-0 tall, and the 582000-series cars  had one fewer “panels” to the left of the doors. 
If you want an interesting “variant” on the Accurail model consider adding a 1/2 door to the car to create the 9-foot height 1-1/2 door cars? 
Marty,
Those cars are too tall, being 10'-0" IH. The cars you are thinking of were CN 580000 - 580999, which were built in 1923 as 9'-0" door and a half automobile cars. Between 1933 - 1940 they were rebuilt with 6' doors and renumbered 464000 - 464999. These are the prototype for the Accurail 4300 series. We never did the auto car version because auto cars with this low IH were so rare, but New England Rail Service did a conversion kit.

Dennis Storzek
 


Re: PFE R-40-4 series?

Charlie Duckworth
 

Tony
Thanks 

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 6:14 PM Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:
Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:

One more question…on the A end of the car was the UP shield closest to the ladder or was the SP logo?  Being more familiar with ART the MP and a Wabash were swapped depending A or B end. 

If you are doing the scheme with a color UP emblem, then the SP emblem is next to the door on both sides (i.e. both sides are identical). If you do the B&W UP emblem, the SP emblem goes toward the B end on both sides, thus sides not identical.

Tony Thompson







--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: PFE R-40-4 series?

Tony Thompson
 

Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:

One more question…on the A end of the car was the UP shield closest to the ladder or was the SP logo?  Being more familiar with ART the MP and a Wabash were swapped depending A or B end. 

If you are doing the scheme with a color UP emblem, then the SP emblem is next to the door on both sides (i.e. both sides are identical). If you do the B&W UP emblem, the SP emblem goes toward the B end on both sides, thus sides not identical.

Tony Thompson







Re: PFE R-40-4 series?

Charlie Duckworth
 

One more question…on the A end of the car was the UP shield closest to the ladder or was the SP logo?  Being more familiar with ART the MP and a Wabash were swapped depending A or B end. 

thanks again. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: PFE R-40-4 series?

Tim O'Connor
 

On 4/10/2022 10:40 AM, Charlie Duckworth wrote:

I’m ready to start decaling the Tichy PFE reefer and have a question about the car series.  Decaling a car for post 1950. Is the series 38563-39063?  I’ve seen one built up model numbered 71737 so a little confused. 


thanks. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Candidates for Accurail cars

Tim O'Connor
 


Any pictures out there?

On 4/10/2022 10:34 AM, Rich Gibson via groups.io wrote:
4100 series works for MEC 35001-35300 after removing fish belly underframe. 

Rich Gibson

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: help needed

Larry Smith
 

Wonder why they haven't even tried to down load these to disc and sell the whole thing for home use.  When Randy closed the business, he sold all of the magazines from day one to the end and my club has all of them, but having a PDF is so much better.  I found my references in the article and have ordered those magazines as well.  Again thanks for your help

Larry

On Monday, April 11, 2022, 01:04:36 PM CDT, Ed Shoben <ejshoben@...> wrote:


You are most welcome, Larry.  Don't know why trainlife can't get this fixed.  The critical parts are the three letter code for the magazine and then the year and month.  mrr is model railroading, ptm is prototype modeler, and rmj  is railmodel journal.

Ed Shoben


Re: Off the rip track PRR X-29 and T&P 1937 boxcar

Bill Keene
 

Thank you for sharing your RIP Track work. Wonderful. Thank you also for setting a bar to work toward. It is great to have good examples to follow.

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


Re: Suggestions for sill steps & car puller loops

Dean Payne
 

Des Plaines Hobbies also made some double sill steps, of the side-mount design (I already had bottom-mount design, from... Tichy or DA).They were out of stock for years, so I bought enough for my needs.


Re: help needed

Ed Shoben
 

You are most welcome, Larry.  Don't know why trainlife can't get this fixed.  The critical parts are the three letter code for the magazine and then the year and month.  mrr is model railroading, ptm is prototype modeler, and rmj  is railmodel journal.

Ed Shoben


Re: NYC’s Westside High Line Advertisement

Richard Ramik
 

I am more than familiar with that piece of the NYC High Line.  The building was the Bell Telephone Laboratories location called "WEST STREET".  I worked out of there for a short period of time. 

The was until my project was completely settled in the Whippany, New Jersey location.  And while there, I was across the street (Route 10) from the Whippany Railway Museum.

The Telephone Gods took care of me!!!!!!

Thanks,
Rich Ramik


Re: A 'First' screwup?

Clark Propst
 

The grain doors do not match the plans Sunshine published.  The boards are 2x too wide.

Jared Harper

Jared those ARE Sunshine grain doors
Clark


Re: Photo: GH&SA Boxcar 10021

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
Thanks Bob for these awesome images.
 
I will point out that the leftmost boxcar in the image, SP&S 3077, is stencilled with "NOTICE: DO NOT LOAD THIS CAR FOR POINTS OFF THE LINES OF THIS ZZZZZZ"
 
The last word is not quite legible, but might be COMPANY.
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 

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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: GH&SA Boxcar 10021

Photo: GH&SA Boxcar 10021

Galveston, Harrisburg & San Antonio Ry.

(Southern Pacific Lines in Texas and Louisiana)

8/1920-7/1936

https://digitalcollections.ohs.org/sp-s-north-bank-dock

Click on the photo twice for maximum enlargement.

An undated scene from the SP&S North Bank Dock in Portland, Oregon.

In addition to the many Northern Pacific boxcars in this photo, a view of the “A” end of GH&SA Boxcar 10021 appears right in the middle of the photo.

The Galveston, Harrisburg & San Antonio Railway was a Southern Pacific subsidiary operating in Texas and Louisiana.

Undated map: https://www.legendsofamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Galveston-Harrisburg-and-San-Antonio-RailwayMap.jpg

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Freight Cars At Elevator (1927)

Jim Betz
 

  ... and no less than 4 different automotive oil billboards ...


Photo: Plywood Load In Boxcar

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Plywood Load In Boxcar

Photo from the Oregon Historical Society:

https://digitalcollections.ohs.org/crown-zellerbach-lumber-products-shipped-from-saint-helens-oregon

Click on the photo twice for maximum enlargement.

Photo shows the arrangement of the plywood in the boxcar.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Freight Cars At Elevator (1927)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Freight Cars At Elevator (1927)

Photo from the Oregon Historical Society:

https://digitalcollections.ohs.org/port-of-seattle-grain-elevator-seattle-washington

Click on the photo twice for maximum enlargement.

Interesting but unidentified load in the Milwaukee Road gondola.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Off the rip track PRR X-29 and T&P 1937 boxcar

Tony Thompson
 

Nice resort, Charlie, and I especially like the rusty areas at the bottom of the side sheets on the X29. We know what’s coming!

Tony Thompson
tony@...


Re: help needed

Larry Smith
 

Thanks Ed that is exactly what I needed

Larry Smith

On Sunday, April 10, 2022, 04:54:37 PM CDT, Ed Shoben <ejshoben@...> wrote:


This should get you the issue you seek:

http://magazine.trainlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/mrr_199808.pdf

Regards,

Ed shoben

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