Date   

Re: IHB 40’ 1944 boxcar with 5/5 ends

Brian Carlson
 

Tim earlier End design for 10-6 cars not covered by Branchline kit. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Apr 22, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Ben

I didn't follow that exactly -- what do you mean by "earlier design" for the 730-B ?

The 729-B's were the 10-0 cars
The 730-B's were the 10-6 cars

You're right the 729 is IMWX/RedCaboose/Branchline and the 730 is the Intermountain. ( Or Athearn :-D )
The two sizes of the AAR design cars were built concurrently in the 1930's and 1940's.

Tim O'Connor


On 4/22/2022 11:06 AM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
Charlie Duckworth asked:
"Since I bought NSC NYC decals there’s an IHB subject on the sheet I’d like to do.  I’ve found a photo of a car with 5/5 ends. Did Branchline offer this end in their 40’ boxcar series?"

They did not...but why use the Branchline model as a starting point?  What's wrong with the Intermountain 10 ft 6 in IH Modified 1937 AAR Boxcar model?  Despite the 1944 build date, IHB 10600-10699 (Lot 730-B) were built to the earlier design.  See Ed Hawkins' spreadsheet for details.

Photo from Rich Burg's collection:


Ben Hom


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

--
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: IHB 40’ 1944 boxcar with 5/5 ends

Tim O'Connor
 

Ben

I didn't follow that exactly -- what do you mean by "earlier design" for the 730-B ?

The 729-B's were the 10-0 cars
The 730-B's were the 10-6 cars

You're right the 729 is IMWX/RedCaboose/Branchline and the 730 is the Intermountain. ( Or Athearn :-D )
The two sizes of the AAR design cars were built concurrently in the 1930's and 1940's.

Tim O'Connor


On 4/22/2022 11:06 AM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
Charlie Duckworth asked:
"Since I bought NSC NYC decals there’s an IHB subject on the sheet I’d like to do.  I’ve found a photo of a car with 5/5 ends. Did Branchline offer this end in their 40’ boxcar series?"

They did not...but why use the Branchline model as a starting point?  What's wrong with the Intermountain 10 ft 6 in IH Modified 1937 AAR Boxcar model?  Despite the 1944 build date, IHB 10600-10699 (Lot 730-B) were built to the earlier design.  See Ed Hawkins' spreadsheet for details.

Photo from Rich Burg's collection:


Ben Hom


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


RPC request

Ken O'Brien
 

gentlemen,

Looking to purchase a few older RPCs that I missed. Have looked in my usual sources, but no luck. I'm looking for Issues 23, 28 and 29.

If you have extra copies or purchasing info, please reply off line to me.

Ken O'Brien


Re: IHB 40’ 1944 boxcar with 5/5 ends

Charlie Duckworth
 

Ben
Thanks!  

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:07 AM Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
Charlie Duckworth asked:
"Since I bought NSC NYC decals there’s an IHB subject on the sheet I’d like to do.  I’ve found a photo of a car with 5/5 ends. Did Branchline offer this end in their 40’ boxcar series?"

They did not...but why use the Branchline model as a starting point?  What's wrong with the Intermountain 10 ft 6 in IH Modified 1937 AAR Boxcar model?  Despite the 1944 build date, IHB 10600-10699 (Lot 730-B) were built to the earlier design.  See Ed Hawkins' spreadsheet for details.

Photo from Rich Burg's collection:


Ben Hom


--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: NYC Automobile Car Date

Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
 

I just remembered that there were links to photos posted in the discussion of the carbody in an Indiana field.
Here is the builder's photo, showing the original roof:
https://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/mcrr-62475.jpg

Here is the same type of car with a 1935 scale date:
https://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/nyc-260035.jpg

Note the S in the car number. Also note the distinctive wood door stops the NYC added at some point. The car in your photo has not had them applied yet. Does anyone know when these were applied?

Dennis Storzek


Re: IHB 40’ 1944 boxcar with 5/5 ends

Benjamin Hom
 

Charlie Duckworth asked:
"Since I bought NSC NYC decals there’s an IHB subject on the sheet I’d like to do.  I’ve found a photo of a car with 5/5 ends. Did Branchline offer this end in their 40’ boxcar series?"

They did not...but why use the Branchline model as a starting point?  What's wrong with the Intermountain 10 ft 6 in IH Modified 1937 AAR Boxcar model?  Despite the 1944 build date, IHB 10600-10699 (Lot 730-B) were built to the earlier design.  See Ed Hawkins' spreadsheet for details.

Photo from Rich Burg's collection:


Ben Hom


Re: NYC Automobile Car Date

Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
 

On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 08:00 PM, Matt Goodman wrote:
Hi Dennis - hopefully the attached helps. 
Matt,
Actually, I was trying to help you out. Forty years ago I did patterns for this car, and at that time I looked at a lot of photos, and the few remaining prototypes. One of the things I recall is none of the photos, other than the builder's photos, had the original roofs. They were built with outside metal roofs identifiable by the cast clamps that held the end of the seam caps. These predated the introduction of "flexible" metal roofs, and appearantly didn't hold up well. Unfortunately, the enlarged photo is not clear enough to see whether the car has these clamps.

No great loss, because, subsequent to my requesting a larger photo, I remember being in one of these cars in Marquette, MI where a building materials dealer was using it for storage. On the side plate over the door along with the original NYC number was stenciled, "NEW ROOF APPLIED E. ROCHESTER" and a date in 1922. I recall thinking at the time that it was unusual that a six year old car should need a new roof, but does help explain the lack of in-service photos with the original roofs. Anyway, that early date just happens to match your earliest date of use of the sign, so even if we could see the roof, it would prove nothing. Sorry.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Reading,P&R class RMj reefers

Eric Hansmann
 

A great resource PDF on these Reading reefers can be downloaded from this page of the Reading Modeler site. No photos, but some interesting data.

http://www.readingmodeler.info/index.php/component/content/article/99-rolling-stock-reference-files/freight/215-reading-company-refrigerator-cars

 

Side and end photos are also in the AC&F photo collection available from Westerfield Models.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of lrkdbn via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2022 8:17 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Reading,P&R class RMj reefers

 

Dear group
I am looking for information on the Reading RR's class RMj reefers built by ACF in 1923.These were "outside braced" cars-unusual for reefers. In particular I need info on the underframe construction.(I am already aware of the Model Railroader drawing of this car from ca. 1960).Anything would help, even wreck photos,etc.
Larry King


Another hopper

Eric Hansmann
 

Resin Car Works has added another road name for their Enterprise design, 33-foot, offset-side, twin hopper kit. Details are in the latest blog post.

http://blog.resincarworks.com/another-hopper-kit-addition/

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN


Reading,P&R class RMj reefers

lrkdbn
 

Dear group
I am looking for information on the Reading RR's class RMj reefers built by ACF in 1923.These were "outside braced" cars-unusual for reefers. In particular I need info on the underframe construction.(I am already aware of the Model Railroader drawing of this car from ca. 1960).Anything would help, even wreck photos,etc.
Larry King


Re: NYC Automobile Car Date

 

It's funny you mention that, Larry. When I was getting the screenshot for Dennis last night, I wondered the same because the 8/S on the car side seemed to be a different size. I immediately discounted the idea since I had no idea about alpha prefixes. Screenshot of the car side attached.

Matt Goodman
Columbus, Ohio, US


On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 08:18 AM, Larry King wrote:
I think the first digit on the car number might actually be "S"-many NYCL cars in the 1920's had this prefix,in denoted a "System car that did not pay per diem on any NYC line,and also that it could be repaired up to 85% of MCB value.


Re: NYC Automobile Car Date

lrkdbn
 

I think the first digit on the car number might actually be "S"-many NYCL cars in the 1920's had this prefix,in denoted a "System car that did not pay per diem on any NYC line,and also that it could be repaired up to 85% of MCB value.
Larry King


IHB 40’ 1944 boxcar with 5/5 ends

Charlie Duckworth
 

Since I bought NSC NYC decals there’s an IHB subject on the sheet I’d like to do.  I’ve found a photo of a car with 5/5 ends. Did Branchline offer this end in their 40’ boxcar series?  
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: NYC Automobile Car Date

 

Hi Dennis - hopefully the attached helps. 

Phillip, regarding the sign possibly lasting beyond 1930, you could be correct. The earliest photo evidence off the new name - Container Corporation - being on the building is dated 1938. It was a very low-budget repainting, parroting the style, shape, everything (and the original Mid-West was visible beneath it). My point being that work with lack of imagination would surely have been done in a hurry. Surprising for a company that later became known for it’s advertising artistry (Container Corporation - search eBay to see some fine work).

Matt Goodman
Columbus, Ohio  



On Apr 17, 2022, at 11:50 AM, Dennis Storzek <dennis@...> wrote:

Matt,

Is there a way to see the image larger? I'd like to see the edge of the roof better.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Trying to track down Arnold Menkw

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Paul


On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:52 AM Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Fenton 
Just sent it to you.
Paul Doggett 


On 21 Apr 2022, at 15:40, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Anyone have a good email address fro Mr. Menke?  Please contact me off list srrfan1401@...
Thanks
Fenton



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Trying to track down Arnold Menkw

Paul Doggett
 

Fenton 
Just sent it to you.
Paul Doggett 


On 21 Apr 2022, at 15:40, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Anyone have a good email address fro Mr. Menke?  Please contact me off list srrfan1401@...
Thanks
Fenton


Trying to track down Arnold Menkw

O Fenton Wells
 

Anyone have a good email address fro Mr. Menke?  Please contact me off list srrfan1401@...
Thanks
Fenton


Re: LNE 40' SS photo wanted

William Dale
 

Clark,
     Can you contact me off list. I can help with an abundance of information. It’s great to see the L&NE gaining some popularity!

Billy


Re: LNE 40' SS photo wanted

O Fenton Wells
 

Did you call Bob’s photos?  I have the number if you need it
I’ll check wit the Menke photo list as well. 
Fenton 


On Apr 20, 2022, at 6:06 PM, Clark Propst via groups.io <cepropst@...> wrote:

I'm kitbashing a LNE 40' single sheathed box car with a radial roof. Can anyone supply a photo of one of these cars I can use in a presentation?

Thank you!
Clark


Re: How About Another Boxcar in a Field in Indiana?

Ross Dando
 

The ends and brackets match the drawings and pictures I have for the RI, CNW & CMO cars. BUT. The door does not match the pictures as all the ones mentioned have one brace. But it is a USRA design.
Ross Dando 
Meridian, Idaho

3381 - 3400 of 195470