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Re: Accurail MKT 36’ boxcar

 

Gorgeous. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
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On Jun 6, 2022, at 8:07 PM, Charlie Duckworth via groups.io <Worth51@...> wrote:



I always liked the Sloan yellow color the Katy painted their cabooses and boxcars.  The Accurail lettering is pretty accurate so all I did was replace the ladders with those I made and wire hand grabs.  Weathered with pin washes are out d the rivets and door details using black and brown.  I ordered a bottle of Vallejo Brown Wash after seeing an O gauge SLRX car using the wash over the white sides. 

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Re: Accurail MKT 36’ boxcar

Charlie Duckworth
 

Tony thanks, the yellow certainly allows for a canvas to add weathering.  

 Can someone tell me how long these cars lasted; the reweigh date is 1938 and I’d like to move it up to the late 1940’s or early 50’s. 

Charlie 

On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 8:32 PM Tony Thompson <tony_at_signaturepress.com_Worth51@...> wrote:
Very good-looking car, Charlie, with your usual excellent touch with the locations and degree of dirt. I too have always liked the Katy yellow.

Tony Thompson
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Charlie Duckworth 
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Re: Accurail MKT 36’ boxcar

Tony Thompson
 

Very good-looking car, Charlie, with your usual excellent touch with the locations and degree of dirt. I too have always liked the Katy yellow.

Tony Thompson
tony@...


Re: Accurail MKT 36’ boxcar

hubert mask
 

That is sharp.

Hubert 


On Jun 6, 2022, at 9:07 PM, Charlie Duckworth via groups.io <Worth51@...> wrote:



I always liked the Sloan yellow color the Katy painted their cabooses and boxcars.  The Accurail lettering is pretty accurate so all I did was replace the ladders with those I made and wire hand grabs.  Weathered with pin washes are out d the rivets and door details using black and brown.  I ordered a bottle of Vallejo Brown Wash after seeing an O gauge SLRX car using the wash over the white sides. 

96054A85-72C5-4871-B6B4-B2CE5FA73EFA.jpeg3AE080B3-1D92-469D-BF24-C837B69D7CB7.jpeg
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Accurail MKT 36’ boxcar

Charlie Duckworth
 

I always liked the Sloan yellow color the Katy painted their cabooses and boxcars.  The Accurail lettering is pretty accurate so all I did was replace the ladders with those I made and wire hand grabs.  Weathered with pin washes are out d the rivets and door details using black and brown.  I ordered a bottle of Vallejo Brown Wash after seeing an O gauge SLRX car using the wash over the white sides. 


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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Photo: Ogden Stockyards & Nearby Railyards

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Ogden Stockyards & Nearby Railyards

Photo from Weber State University Stewart Library:

https://cdm.weber.edu/digital/collection/OSY/id/38

This photo can be enlarged.

Biographical/Historical Note:        

“The Ogden Union Stockyard was a key fixture in the largest livestock market west of Denver during its heyday from 1916 to 1971. The activities at the yard brought Ogden national attention as a livestock center. The rise of the livestock shows, auctions, etc. at the site spurred the local and regional livestock industry, thereby physically shaping the development of the agricultural landscape both near and far.”

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railway Bull Shippers Group

https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup


Photo: Cudahy Packing Company Plant & Union Stockyards – Salt Lake City

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Cudahy Packing Company Plant & Union Stockyards – Salt Lake City

Photo from Photo from University of Utah Marriott Library:

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/details?id=994206

Circa mid-1940s.

Notice the difference in the heights of the two string of livestock cars at the top of the photo.

Maybe the shorter cars are narrow gauge?

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railway Bull Shippers Group

https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup


Photo: The “Tuna Fish” Wreck

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: The “Tuna Fish” Wreck

Photo from the Facebook Nunda (New York) Historical Society ( https://www.facebook.com/NundaHistoricalSociety )

Caption:

“This photograph of Dalton’s Tuna Fish Wreck in August 1958 was taken by local photographer Roy Gath.

NHS member and Erie Railroad expert Bill Burt has been working on an article on the accident and is looking for folks who have photos and/or story of the train wreck.  If you do, please share them here or message us - we will send you Bill's contact information. Thanks!”

Barbara Anderson commented:

“That was an absolutely unbelievable train wreck, our family lived one street over to the north.

We gathered up a tremendous amount of tuna fish in anything that you could carry. We had tuna fish for a long time.

If I remember correctly there was also a train car with bananas in it.

That was the talk of our small town of Dalton for many years after.

I was seven years old at the time and never seen anything like that before. Most of the people from Dalton were there.”

Diane Williams commented:

“My other half Dennis Bugman worked on that wreck. He recalled not only the cans of tuna but bags of almonds and disgusting animal hides.”

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA




Re: Baltimore & Ohio Box Cars May 1938

steve_wintner
 

Yes, thank you. I've never noticed the taper at the top of those doors on the M-53 before. If i recall, my f&c wagon top's doors  do not have that, I may need to consider surgery. 

Steve


Re: Baltimore & Ohio Box Cars May 1938

Bruce Hendrick
 

Beautiful images. Thanks for sharing.

Bruce Hendrick
Brea, California


Re: Baltimore & Ohio Box Cars May 1938

Richard Wilkens
 

Eric, Your right, it is Richwood and it is written on the sleeves, guess I need stronger glasses :)

Richard


Re: X31 Evans Chain Storage Tubes

Guy Wilber
 

Bruce,

Thank you for your insight.

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada

On Jun 5, 2022, at 12:05 PM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


Guy,

Based on the photographic evidence, it appears that the 4 center tube arrangement was not upgraded to 6 center tubes. I also have not seen any evidence of upgrades in the drawing record. 

Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

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Bruce Smith wrote:

With respect to the number of tubes, no, not exactly. The X31s (no subclass) and X31F had 4 tubes in the center of the car and 2 at each end. The X31C had 6 tubes in the center of the car, and 2 at each end. I modeled the difference.”

Bruce, 

Nearly all the original installations of Evans Auto~Loaders (Type A) were equipped with 8 storage tubes.  As auto cars were upgraded to newer models of racks the number of storage tubes was often increased, typically 12/16 to maximize the flexibility of the system, in order to accommodate the range in sizes of automobiles.  

Do you know if the Pennsylvania added more storage tubes as they upgraded cars or do the totals under the column heading “No. of Floor Tubes or Tie Downs” listed within “Bulletin 28” reflect 8 storage tubes plus either 4 or 6 “U” bolt tie downs?  The tie downs in combination with longer chains served the same function as additional storage tubes.

Thanks,

Guy Wilber 
Reno, Nevada



Re: Baltimore & Ohio Box Cars May 1938

Eric Hansmann
 

Nice shots, Richard! Thanks for sharing. 

I suspect the location was Richwood, WV, as there isn’t a Richmond in WV. This was deep in the heart of hardwood lumber country. The mill is long gone. 

The M-26c box car has KD brake hardware and in the original paint and lettering. The M-53 wagon top cars have Duryea cushion underframes and wear the latest B&O lettering. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jun 5, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Richard Wilkens <railsnw123@...> wrote:

Recently I purchased 8 negatives off of Ebay that are of several B&O box cars at Richmond, WV in May 1938. Hope some will find these of interest.

Richard Wilkens
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Baltimore & Ohio Box Cars May 1938

Richard Wilkens
 

Recently I purchased 8 negatives off of Ebay that are of several B&O box cars at Richmond, WV in May 1938. Hope some will find these of interest.

Richard Wilkens


Photo: Barrels In Boxcar At Lemp's Brewing Company (1912)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Barrels In Boxcar At Lemp's Brewing Company (1912)

Photo from University of Utah Marriott Library:

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/details?id=528232

Photo can be enlarged.

Notice the tally marks chalked on the boxcar wall.

Possibly these are empty barrels.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: X31 Evans Chain Storage Tubes

Bruce Smith
 

Guy,

Based on the photographic evidence, it appears that the 4 center tube arrangement was not upgraded to 6 center tubes. I also have not seen any evidence of upgrades in the drawing record. 

Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

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Bruce Smith wrote:

With respect to the number of tubes, no, not exactly. The X31s (no subclass) and X31F had 4 tubes in the center of the car and 2 at each end. The X31C had 6 tubes in the center of the car, and 2 at each end. I modeled the difference.”

Bruce, 

Nearly all the original installations of Evans Auto~Loaders (Type A) were equipped with 8 storage tubes.  As auto cars were upgraded to newer models of racks the number of storage tubes was often increased, typically 12/16 to maximize the flexibility of the system, in order to accommodate the range in sizes of automobiles.  

Do you know if the Pennsylvania added more storage tubes as they upgraded cars or do the totals under the column heading “No. of Floor Tubes or Tie Downs” listed within “Bulletin 28” reflect 8 storage tubes plus either 4 or 6 “U” bolt tie downs?  The tie downs in combination with longer chains served the same function as additional storage tubes.

Thanks,

Guy Wilber 
Reno, Nevada



Re: Photo: Holly Sugar Plant - Huntington Beach (Circa 1917)

 

Back in late 1960s worked in a super market as a “box boy”. We were putting groceries in paper bags then (way before plastic) but not boxes.

Andy Andy Jackson
Santa Fe Springs CA


X31 Evans Chain Storage Tubes

Guy Wilber
 


Bruce Smith wrote:

With respect to the number of tubes, no, not exactly. The X31s (no subclass) and X31F had 4 tubes in the center of the car and 2 at each end. The X31C had 6 tubes in the center of the car, and 2 at each end. I modeled the difference.”

Bruce, 

Nearly all the original installations of Evans Auto~Loaders (Type A) were equipped with 8 storage tubes.  As auto cars were upgraded to newer models of racks the number of storage tubes was often increased, typically 12/16 to maximize the flexibility of the system, in order to accommodate the range in sizes of automobiles.  

Do you know if the Pennsylvania added more storage tubes as they upgraded cars or do the totals under the column heading “No. of Floor Tubes or Tie Downs” listed within “Bulletin 28” reflect 8 storage tubes plus either 4 or 6 “U” bolt tie downs?  The tie downs in combination with longer chains served the same function as additional storage tubes.

Thanks,

Guy Wilber 
Reno, Nevada



Re: COPX Tank Box Car connection with C&EI

David Forbes
 

Jack,

Thanks for the information.  Milk cars are not something I have researched so thanks for pointing me in the right direction.  

The cars were apparently leased by Consolidated Products and then painted at the C&EI's Danville Shops.  

Attached is a photo of the 1954 ORER for COPX.  

Dave Forbes


Re: Speedwitch p105_uframe2 Wanted and Evens Loader Chain Tubes

Bruce Smith
 

Bill,

Yes that is the trainline.

With repsect to the number of tubes, no, not exactly. The X31s (no subclass) and X31F had 4 tubes in the center of the car and 2 at each end. The X31C had 6 tubes in the center of the car, and 2 at each end. I modeled the difference 😉

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

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The X 31s have six tubes located at the center of the cars.  Is that the trainline that snakes around
the tubes?  The line in the photo seems to be a wrapped pipe.

I ask because I have an. X 31 that I s finished save for the installation of the rubes.

Bill Pardie

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Speedwitch p105_uframe2 Wanted and Evens Loader Chain Tubes

Thanks Al,

In my research the last couple of days I came across a good picture of the cylinder installation in an PRR X31 and a diagram or the loader and cylinder.



https://www.rrmagazineindex.org/ can be very useful.
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