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Re: Santa Reefer Help

Tim O'Connor
 


I think that the trucks were correct for SFRD reefers - if I recall it was an early ASF truck, before the
Ride Control era. They were multi-piece trucks and had some issues... Did Intermountain ever retool them
as one piece trucks? (sideframes+bolster). Tahoe has an early ASF truck but I don't know if it's correct for
SFRD.

Tim O'Connor


On 6/7/2022 3:06 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE wrote:

Lester:

As I recall when these kits came out the Santa Fe gods thought that the kit trucks were perfect.  I always send a photo of the car that I am doing to Brian Leppert of Tahoe Models.  He will tell you what truck to use even if it is not his.  Use my name if you like.

It's amazing th we are now down to the proper brake step in detailing.  I recently learned that there is a Klass Morton step used on an MKT car.  Someone said that they had done some with 3D printing and offered to send some but never followed through..

Also ask Keuth Jordon and Dick Harley.

Bill



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...>
Date: 6/7/22 3:41 AM (GMT-10:00)
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Santa Reefer Help

Current build is a Santa Fe Reefer kit numbered 32153.  A kit I believe produced by InterMountain for the Santa Fe Historical Society.
I need help with the Reefer, in series 31653 to 33155,  with the running board type , I believe wood and the brake step, I believe metal type.
And, trucks. 
I Thank You for your time and effort to respond.
Lester Breuer



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Santa Reefer Help

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Lester:

As I recall when these kits came out the Santa Fe gods thought that the kit trucks were perfect.  I always send a photo of the car that I am doing to Brian Leppert of Tahoe Models.  He will tell you what truck to use even if it is not his.  Use my name if you like.

It's amazing th we are now down to the proper brake step in detailing.  I recently learned that there is a Klass Morton step used on an MKT car.  Someone said that they had done some with 3D printing and offered to send some but never followed through..

Also ask Keuth Jordon and Dick Harley.

Bill



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...>
Date: 6/7/22 3:41 AM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Santa Reefer Help

Current build is a Santa Fe Reefer kit numbered 32153.  A kit I believe produced by InterMountain for the Santa Fe Historical Society.
I need help with the Reefer, in series 31653 to 33155,  with the running board type , I believe wood and the brake step, I believe metal type.
And, trucks. 
I Thank You for your time and effort to respond.
Lester Breuer


Re: Peacock Estate Auction

golden1014
 

So that's where are the Sunshine kits went!!!  We miss ya, Frank.  John Golden


Peacock Estate Auction

Keith Jordan
 

To All,

 

The late Frank Peacock’s Estate has been consigned for auction with Stout Auctions of Indiana. The auction will take place Thursday, June 16th. You can view the lots here:

 

http://www.stoutauctions.com/?p=2021

 

In Frank’s estate, there are over 600 pieces of brass, over 1000 resin kits, and over 1700 plastic kits! Frank’s interests were not only in the railroads of the Southwest, but the Northwest and Southeast, too; steam, Diesel and of course, freight cars, and in three scales: O/P48, HO and S! The auction includes many parts and tools.

 

Stout’s website includes instructions for viewing and bidding. Please take a look. If you have other questions, you may contact me ckjordan at kc dot rr dot com. I will only respond to questions off list.

 

Please excuse the cross-posting of this notice to several lists.

 

Keith Jordan


Re: Photo: Loading Corn In Box Cars (1915)

Eric Hansmann
 

That Intercolonial box car is interesting. But it’s 1915. 

When was the rule/guideline established to ship Canadian cars back empty? We’ve discussed it many times but I don’t recall seeing a starting date. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jun 7, 2022, at 12:24 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Photo: Loading Corn In Box Cars (1915)

A photo from the Gateway To Oklahoma History website:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc1473180/m1/1/?q=Loading

Photo can be enlarged. Use the link.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

 


Photo: N&W Livestock Car 29274 (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: N&W Livestock Car 29274 (Undated)

Photo from the Virginia Tech University Libraries

https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=ns2779

Click on photo to enlarge.

Class SK. View of roof.

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railway Bull Shippers Group

https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup


Re: Accurail MKT 36’ boxcar

Bill J.
 

“Just another” Duckworth masterpiece!  How do you do it EVERY times!?  I would love to know how you scribe into the sides the plastic that remains after you cut off the cast ladder rungs.  


Bill Jolitz 

who really loved running your layout TWICE!


Photo: Loading Corn In Box Cars (1915)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Loading Corn In Box Cars (1915)

A photo from the Gateway To Oklahoma History website:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc1473180/m1/1/?q=Loading

Photo can be enlarged. Use the link.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

 


Re: Santa Reefer Help

Ed Hawkins
 



On Jun 7, 2022, at 8:41 AM, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:

Current build is a Santa Fe Reefer kit numbered 32153.  A kit I believe produced by InterMountain for the Santa Fe Historical Society.
I need help with the Reefer, in series 31653 to 33155,  with the running board type , I believe wood and the brake step, I believe metal type.
And, trucks. 
I Thank You for your time and effort to respond.
Lester Breuer

Lester,
The following info comes from a santa fe diagram for class Rr, 1,500 cars in series 31656-33155, built new as Rr-W in 1920-1921. The diagram refers to another Rr-23 diagram that denotes the cars were modernized from 1954-1959 with Camel sliding flush doors, Improved Dreadnaught ends, Preco fans, a “metal” running board, and a few other details. 

For the Rr-23 cars rebuilt with swing doors, all cars received an Ajax hand brake & 33” 700 lb. single plate chilled wheels (cast iron). 

The diagram doesn’t specify the type of running boards or brake steps. A photo of SFRD 32143, last reweighed 9-50, shows a wood running board. It’s the right side of the car with the system map but doesn’t provide a view of the brake step. Trucks on 32143 are AAR double truss spring plankless. Hope this provides what is needed for your modeling. The photo from Bob’s Photo was taken by Col. Chet McCoid on 11/2/54 at San Diego.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: Photo: Cudahy Packing Company Plant & Union Stockyards – Salt Lake City

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi List Members,


I will point out the presence of a tank car, at the bottom of the image...


Claus Schlund




On 07-Jun-22 00:42, Douglas Harding wrote:

Bob it looks to me like older wooden cars in front of some newer all steel (ie taller) cars.

Doug Harding
Youtube: Douglas Harding Iowa Central Railroad


On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 9:36 PM Kenneth Montero <va661midlo@...> wrote:
The tracks for each string of cars appear to be in the same gauge.

Also, by the time that the photograph was taken (1944-46), the narrow-gauge Rio Grande Western long had been merged wit the Denver & Rio Grande (to create the Denver & Rio Grande Western) and had been standard-gauged.

Ken Montero
On 06/06/2022 1:24 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:


Photo: Cudahy Packing Company Plant & Union Stockyards – Salt Lake City

Photo from Photo from University of Utah Marriott Library:

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/details?id=994206

Circa mid-1940s.

Notice the difference in the heights of the two string of livestock cars at the top of the photo.

Maybe the shorter cars are narrow gauge?

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railway Bull Shippers Group

https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup


SOLD OUT: $3.50 Overland etched running boards for Santa Fe Cupola cabooses

Andy Carlson
 

These have been sold. Thanks,
-Andy Carlson


Hello-

I have 10 sets of Overland models #2163 "Rectangular Hole Roofwalk for Athearn AT&SF caboose (W/Hand grab)" New in mint packaging. For quite sometime I use Overland etched running boards for various little parts and kit bashing.



Re: Accurail MKT 36’ boxcar

Eric Hansmann
 

An additional MKT wood sheathed box car resource is a Steve Hedlund blog post from a few years ago. He reviews several MKT lettering changes that can be used as time markers in our modeling efforts. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jun 7, 2022, at 5:58 AM, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:

Not sure which series the MKT car is, but Ray’s notes at Eric’s site should include length of service:

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/accurail-prototype-data/

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____________________________
David Bott, modeling the A&Y in '34


Re: Accurail MKT 36’ boxcar

Jim Ogden
 

Loving it! Those Accurail cars are real gems and your work is like that of a diamond cutter.

Jim Ogden


Santa Reefer Help

Lester Breuer
 

Current build is a Santa Fe Reefer kit numbered 32153.  A kit I believe produced by InterMountain for the Santa Fe Historical Society.
I need help with the Reefer, in series 31653 to 33155,  with the running board type , I believe wood and the brake step, I believe metal type.
And, trucks. 
I Thank You for your time and effort to respond.
Lester Breuer


Re: Accurail MKT 36’ boxcar here’s and article with brown washes

O Fenton Wells
 

Good stuff Charlie, thanks for sharing
Fenton

On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 6:53 AM Charlie Duckworth via groups.io <Worth51=duck.com@groups.io> wrote:

I’d read this article on building and weathering a white reefer and ordered a bottle of Vallejo Brown wash to see how I could weather my own light colored cars.  While Jim doesn’t go into detail I watched a few YouTube videos on how to apply washes.  Plus there’s others on how to make your own using acrylic paint, water and alcohol which obviously is much cheaper.  I’ve always used oils for pin washes but this adds another method.

Here’s what got me interested…

https://myp48.wordpress.com/2020/03/06/modeling-a-beauty-from-jim-zwernemann/

here’s how to make washes…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1i61SlfOD34

and a ‘how to’ on using them…

https://youtu.be/pwxlB0aFjJo

Charlie Duckworth 

Omaha, Ne.



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: Accurail MKT 36’ boxcar here’s and article with brown washes

Ray Hutchison
 

Very nice information, Charlie.  A lot of ideas to draw from!

rh


Re: $3.50 Overland etched running boards for 1958 cu ft covered hoppers

lsittler
 

Sorry that message was supposed to be private.
 
From: Andy Carlson
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 10:05 PM
To: STMFC
Subject: [RealSTMFC] $3.50 Overland etched running boards for 1958 cu ft covered hoppers
 
Hello-
 
I have 5 sets of Overland models #2152 "Rectangular Hole Roofwalk for  E&B Valley 70-ton covered Hopper"  These are for 1958 cu ft covered hoppers and probably for 2-bay PS2 covered hoppers. New in mint packaging. For quite sometime I have used Overland etched running boards for various little parts and kit bashing.
 
Offered for $3.50 each plus buyer to pay $1.50 and up for shipping. Contact me off-list for details @ <midcentury@...> I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee PayPal is welcomed.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: $3.50 Overland etched running boards for 1958 cu ft covered hoppers

lsittler
 

Hi Andy- I’ll take all 5 sets of these if still available. I can pay by PayPal or check, whatever.
Thanks. Les
 
From: Andy Carlson
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 10:05 PM
To: STMFC
Subject: [RealSTMFC] $3.50 Overland etched running boards for 1958 cu ft covered hoppers
 
Hello-
 
I have 5 sets of Overland models #2152 "Rectangular Hole Roofwalk for  E&B Valley 70-ton covered Hopper"  These are for 1958 cu ft covered hoppers and probably for 2-bay PS2 covered hoppers. New in mint packaging. For quite sometime I have used Overland etched running boards for various little parts and kit bashing.
 
Offered for $3.50 each plus buyer to pay $1.50 and up for shipping. Contact me off-list for details @ <midcentury@...> I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee PayPal is welcomed.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Accurail MKT 36’ boxcar

Charlie Duckworth
 

David
Thanks!

On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 5:58 AM A&Y Dave in MD <dbott_at_vt.edu_Worth51@...> wrote:
Not sure which series the MKT car is, but Ray’s notes at Eric’s site should include length of service: http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/accurail-prototype-data/ -- ____________________________David
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Not sure which series the MKT car is, but Ray’s notes at Eric’s site should include length of service:

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/accurail-prototype-data/

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____________________________
David Bott, modeling the A&Y in '34

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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Accurail MKT 36’ boxcar

A&Y Dave in MD
 

Not sure which series the MKT car is, but Ray’s notes at Eric’s site should include length of service:

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/accurail-prototype-data/

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____________________________
David Bott, modeling the A&Y in '34

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