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Wood grain doors

Jared Harper
 

Anyone have pictures of wood grain doors in storage?

Thanks.

Jared Harper


Re: ADMIN: STMFC Groups.io Fees

Ted Larson
 

Thanks 
Thanks 
To the benefactors 




--
Ted Larson
Trainweb.org/MHRR   ---   GN in 1965   ---   NASG.org 


Re: Water-Base Clear Flat Coating

Ted Larson
 

In other parts of my life I do NOT hearr varnish being used generically 
So I would be cautious about doing so.  
Too much risk of misinterpretation.  




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Ted Larson
Trainweb.org/MHRR   ---   GN in 1965   ---   NASG.org 


Re: Baggage Car As An Airplane Parts Carrier

Dean Payne
 

The depot in the first picture is on the Erie, in Kent, Ohio.  Built in 1875, it is still there, being used as a restaurant, and the tracks below are still in regular use.  I think the tracks next to the depot get less frequent use.
Whether the car was photographed on its home turf before the adventure started, or taken later mid-trip when the plane landed "....near Akron, Ohio" I do not know.


Re: Suppler milk reefer model

al_brown03
 

Nice car! 

Al Brown
Melbourne, Fla.


Re: Suppler milk reefer model

 

I like how the lettering was made.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Eric Hansmann <eric@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 6:15 AM
To: <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Cc: realSTMFC <RealSTMFC@groups.io>, "PRR@PRR.groups.io" <PRR@prr.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Suppler milk reefer model

 

Wow! That looks super, Bruce! I really like your weathering work on this car. How many more will be added to your fleet?

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN


On Jun 15, 2022, at 11:34 PM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:

Folks,

 

Here is a model of SWJX 7, a Supplee Milk tank car. The model is based on the 40' Roundhouse (Now Athearn) milk car. The hand brake was replaced with the proper hand brake and additional details were added. I messed around for several years working on making etched brass lettering for SUPPLEE MILK to go with John Frantz' excellent decals (Mount Vernon Shops) and then Mathew Hurst made the letters in 0.020" styrene using a CriCut cutting machine and I picked up a set from him at the PRRT&HS Annual Meeting this year where Matt also gave an excellent presentation on SUPPLEE traffic. The letters require that you complete the cuts with a sharp knife. Matt suggests putting the letters on the car and then adding the red decals, but I used double sided tape to tape them to cardboard, sprayed them with Future and added the decals. I then used Same Stuff plastic cement to glue them to the painted car side. Weathering was with oils, enamel pin washes, and acrylics. 

 

Among other routes, these cars traveled daily between Huntington, PA and Philadelphia. 

 

Note that these cars appeared not to be reweighed as this car was photographed in 1947 with the NEW stencil, probably because, like most tank cars, the cargo was measured in volume, not weight.

 

Regards,

Bruce

Bruce Smith

Auburn AL

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Re: Suppler milk reefer model

Tim O'Connor
 


Beautiful model - I'd have never guessed it began as a Roundhouse kit!

On 6/15/2022 11:34 PM, Bruce Smith wrote:

Folks,

Here is a model of SWJX 7, a Supplee Milk tank car. The model is based on the 40' Roundhouse (Now Athearn) milk car. The hand brake was replaced with the proper hand brake and additional details were added. I messed around for several years working on making etched brass lettering for SUPPLEE MILK to go with John Frantz' excellent decals (Mount Vernon Shops) and then Mathew Hurst made the letters in 0.020" styrene using a CriCut cutting machine and I picked up a set from him at the PRRT&HS Annual Meeting this year where Matt also gave an excellent presentation on SUPPLEE traffic. The letters require that you complete the cuts with a sharp knife. Matt suggests putting the letters on the car and then adding the red decals, but I used double sided tape to tape them to cardboard, sprayed them with Future and added the decals. I then used Same Stuff plastic cement to glue them to the painted car side. Weathering was with oils, enamel pin washes, and acrylics. 

Among other routes, these cars traveled daily between Huntington, PA and Philadelphia. 

Note that these cars appeared not to be reweighed as this car was photographed in 1947 with the NEW stencil, probably because, like most tank cars, the cargo was measured in volume, not weight.

Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn AL

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Suppler milk reefer model

O Fenton Wells
 

Bruce, the car is excellent great model
Fenton

On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 7:15 AM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:
Wow! That looks super, Bruce! I really like your weathering work on this car. How many more will be added to your fleet?


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jun 15, 2022, at 11:34 PM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:

Folks,

Here is a model of SWJX 7, a Supplee Milk tank car. The model is based on the 40' Roundhouse (Now Athearn) milk car. The hand brake was replaced with the proper hand brake and additional details were added. I messed around for several years working on making etched brass lettering for SUPPLEE MILK to go with John Frantz' excellent decals (Mount Vernon Shops) and then Mathew Hurst made the letters in 0.020" styrene using a CriCut cutting machine and I picked up a set from him at the PRRT&HS Annual Meeting this year where Matt also gave an excellent presentation on SUPPLEE traffic. The letters require that you complete the cuts with a sharp knife. Matt suggests putting the letters on the car and then adding the red decals, but I used double sided tape to tape them to cardboard, sprayed them with Future and added the decals. I then used Same Stuff plastic cement to glue them to the painted car side. Weathering was with oils, enamel pin washes, and acrylics. 

Among other routes, these cars traveled daily between Huntington, PA and Philadelphia. 

Note that these cars appeared not to be reweighed as this car was photographed in 1947 with the NEW stencil, probably because, like most tank cars, the cargo was measured in volume, not weight.

Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn AL
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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Suppler milk reefer model

Eric Hansmann
 

Wow! That looks super, Bruce! I really like your weathering work on this car. How many more will be added to your fleet?


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jun 15, 2022, at 11:34 PM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:

Folks,

Here is a model of SWJX 7, a Supplee Milk tank car. The model is based on the 40' Roundhouse (Now Athearn) milk car. The hand brake was replaced with the proper hand brake and additional details were added. I messed around for several years working on making etched brass lettering for SUPPLEE MILK to go with John Frantz' excellent decals (Mount Vernon Shops) and then Mathew Hurst made the letters in 0.020" styrene using a CriCut cutting machine and I picked up a set from him at the PRRT&HS Annual Meeting this year where Matt also gave an excellent presentation on SUPPLEE traffic. The letters require that you complete the cuts with a sharp knife. Matt suggests putting the letters on the car and then adding the red decals, but I used double sided tape to tape them to cardboard, sprayed them with Future and added the decals. I then used Same Stuff plastic cement to glue them to the painted car side. Weathering was with oils, enamel pin washes, and acrylics. 

Among other routes, these cars traveled daily between Huntington, PA and Philadelphia. 

Note that these cars appeared not to be reweighed as this car was photographed in 1947 with the NEW stencil, probably because, like most tank cars, the cargo was measured in volume, not weight.

Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn AL
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Re: Suppler milk reefer model

O Fenton Wells
 

Great looking model Bruce.  Well done
Fenton

On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 11:34 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
Folks,

Here is a model of SWJX 7, a Supplee Milk tank car. The model is based on the 40' Roundhouse (Now Athearn) milk car. The hand brake was replaced with the proper hand brake and additional details were added. I messed around for several years working on making etched brass lettering for SUPPLEE MILK to go with John Frantz' excellent decals (Mount Vernon Shops) and then Mathew Hurst made the letters in 0.020" styrene using a CriCut cutting machine and I picked up a set from him at the PRRT&HS Annual Meeting this year where Matt also gave an excellent presentation on SUPPLEE traffic. The letters require that you complete the cuts with a sharp knife. Matt suggests putting the letters on the car and then adding the red decals, but I used double sided tape to tape them to cardboard, sprayed them with Future and added the decals. I then used Same Stuff plastic cement to glue them to the painted car side. Weathering was with oils, enamel pin washes, and acrylics. 

Among other routes, these cars traveled daily between Huntington, PA and Philadelphia. 

Note that these cars appeared not to be reweighed as this car was photographed in 1947 with the NEW stencil, probably because, like most tank cars, the cargo was measured in volume, not weight.

Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn AL



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Suppler milk reefer model

Bruce Smith
 

Folks,

Here is a model of SWJX 7, a Supplee Milk tank car. The model is based on the 40' Roundhouse (Now Athearn) milk car. The hand brake was replaced with the proper hand brake and additional details were added. I messed around for several years working on making etched brass lettering for SUPPLEE MILK to go with John Frantz' excellent decals (Mount Vernon Shops) and then Mathew Hurst made the letters in 0.020" styrene using a CriCut cutting machine and I picked up a set from him at the PRRT&HS Annual Meeting this year where Matt also gave an excellent presentation on SUPPLEE traffic. The letters require that you complete the cuts with a sharp knife. Matt suggests putting the letters on the car and then adding the red decals, but I used double sided tape to tape them to cardboard, sprayed them with Future and added the decals. I then used Same Stuff plastic cement to glue them to the painted car side. Weathering was with oils, enamel pin washes, and acrylics. 

Among other routes, these cars traveled daily between Huntington, PA and Philadelphia. 

Note that these cars appeared not to be reweighed as this car was photographed in 1947 with the NEW stencil, probably because, like most tank cars, the cargo was measured in volume, not weight.

Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn AL


Photo: C&NW Boxcar With Banner (1920)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: C&NW Boxcar With Banner (1920)

Photo from University of Utah Marriott Library:

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/details?id=539155

Photo can be enlarged.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Water-Base Clear Flat Coating

Kevin Macomber
 

Thank you. I knew the results but not the chemistry!!

On 2022-06-15 12:32, John Sykes III via groups.io wrote:
Varnish is a generic term for transparent finishes, originally used on
wood surfaces such as floors or boat decks. Traditional varnish was
made up of a mixture of phenolic resins (rosin) an oil, such as
linseed oil, a drying oil (Japan drier), and cut with a solvent, such
as turpentine, to thin the varnish for brushing or spraying. These
traditional varnishes yellow and crack with age. Modern varnishes use
synthetic resins (alkyd, polyurethane, etc.) and mineral spirits or
water as a solvent. Varnish is normally high gloss. Matte and flat
varnishes usually have diatomaceous earth added to get the desired
degree of “flatness” (if that’s a word). The side effect is
that the diatomaceous earth can make the finish look cloudy if a
poor-quality product, or too much product is added to the varnish.
Also, solvent-based varnishes do tend to yellow with age, water-based
varnishes generally do not.
Links:
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[2] https://groups.io/mt/91736959/645454
[3] https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/post
[4] https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/editsub/645454
[5] https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/leave/11334620/645454/765963421/xyzzy
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NGMC
(717) 474-8399
www.narrowgaugemodeling.com


Re: Water-Base Clear Flat Coating

John Sykes III
 

Varnish is a generic term for transparent finishes, originally used on wood surfaces such as floors or boat decks.  Traditional varnish was made up of a mixture of phenolic resins (rosin) an oil, such as linseed oil, a drying oil (Japan drier), and cut with a solvent, such as turpentine, to thin the varnish for brushing or spraying.  These traditional varnishes yellow and crack with age.  Modern varnishes use synthetic resins (alkyd, polyurethane, etc.) and mineral spirits or water as a solvent.  Varnish is normally high gloss.  Matte and flat varnishes usually have diatomaceous earth added to get the desired degree of “flatness” (if that’s a word).  The side effect is that the diatomaceous earth can make the finish look cloudy if a poor-quality product, or too much product is added to the varnish.  Also, solvent-based varnishes do tend to yellow with age, water-based varnishes generally do not.


Re: ADMIN: STMFC Groups.io Fees

 

Roger that!

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 15, 2022, at 11:51 AM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


And we are very grateful for keeping the site going
Fenton

On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 10:56 AM Aley, Jeff A <jaley@...> wrote:

Thanks, Folks, for your generosity!

 

Because of you, I have received (as of this writing) $625.00.  Since the fees are $220 per year, this easily covers 2022, 2023, and enough of 2024 that I’m not going to worry about it.  That means that I will not be bugging you for additional donations until sometime in 2025!

 

Groups.io has my credit card # on file, and will automatically charge it each year.  So you don’t need to worry about the money going astray.

 

Thanks again, I am grateful for your donations!

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff Aley

Deputy Moderator, RealSTMFC

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aley, Jeff A
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 6:55 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] ADMIN: STMFC Groups.io Fees

 

Hi Folks,

 

               On June 3, 2022, I paid the $220.00 annual renewal to Groups.io for RealSTMFC.  Our group is a “Premium” group (as defined by Groups.io), which means that we have plenty of storage, so our emails and attachments don’t get lost / deleted.

 

               I paid last year’s fees ($220.00) out of pocket, and if I remember correctly, the fees for 2020 were paid by a member who wishes to remain anonymous.

 

               There are ways for me to solicit money from the membership using a Groups.io feature, but that requires me to give Groups.io a bunch of my bank account information – no thanks.  I do, however, have a PayPal account.  So, if anyone wishes to donate a few bucks, he can send it to me on PayPal using my email address, which is jaley at comcast dot net.

 

Thanks, and back to Freight Cars!

 

-Jeff Aley

Deputy Moderator, RealSTMFC

 



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: ADMIN: STMFC Groups.io Fees

O Fenton Wells
 

And we are very grateful for keeping the site going
Fenton

On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 10:56 AM Aley, Jeff A <jaley@...> wrote:

Thanks, Folks, for your generosity!

 

Because of you, I have received (as of this writing) $625.00.  Since the fees are $220 per year, this easily covers 2022, 2023, and enough of 2024 that I’m not going to worry about it.  That means that I will not be bugging you for additional donations until sometime in 2025!

 

Groups.io has my credit card # on file, and will automatically charge it each year.  So you don’t need to worry about the money going astray.

 

Thanks again, I am grateful for your donations!

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff Aley

Deputy Moderator, RealSTMFC

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aley, Jeff A
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 6:55 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] ADMIN: STMFC Groups.io Fees

 

Hi Folks,

 

               On June 3, 2022, I paid the $220.00 annual renewal to Groups.io for RealSTMFC.  Our group is a “Premium” group (as defined by Groups.io), which means that we have plenty of storage, so our emails and attachments don’t get lost / deleted.

 

               I paid last year’s fees ($220.00) out of pocket, and if I remember correctly, the fees for 2020 were paid by a member who wishes to remain anonymous.

 

               There are ways for me to solicit money from the membership using a Groups.io feature, but that requires me to give Groups.io a bunch of my bank account information – no thanks.  I do, however, have a PayPal account.  So, if anyone wishes to donate a few bucks, he can send it to me on PayPal using my email address, which is jaley at comcast dot net.

 

Thanks, and back to Freight Cars!

 

-Jeff Aley

Deputy Moderator, RealSTMFC

 



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Water-Base Clear Flat Coating

Charles Greene
 

Ok...thanks to all for suggestions. I hadn't heard about most of these other products.

Chuck Greene
St. Charles, IL


Re: ADMIN: STMFC Groups.io Fees

Aley, Jeff A
 

Thanks, Folks, for your generosity!

 

Because of you, I have received (as of this writing) $625.00.  Since the fees are $220 per year, this easily covers 2022, 2023, and enough of 2024 that I’m not going to worry about it.  That means that I will not be bugging you for additional donations until sometime in 2025!

 

Groups.io has my credit card # on file, and will automatically charge it each year.  So you don’t need to worry about the money going astray.

 

Thanks again, I am grateful for your donations!

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff Aley

Deputy Moderator, RealSTMFC

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aley, Jeff A
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 6:55 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] ADMIN: STMFC Groups.io Fees

 

Hi Folks,

 

               On June 3, 2022, I paid the $220.00 annual renewal to Groups.io for RealSTMFC.  Our group is a “Premium” group (as defined by Groups.io), which means that we have plenty of storage, so our emails and attachments don’t get lost / deleted.

 

               I paid last year’s fees ($220.00) out of pocket, and if I remember correctly, the fees for 2020 were paid by a member who wishes to remain anonymous.

 

               There are ways for me to solicit money from the membership using a Groups.io feature, but that requires me to give Groups.io a bunch of my bank account information – no thanks.  I do, however, have a PayPal account.  So, if anyone wishes to donate a few bucks, he can send it to me on PayPal using my email address, which is jaley at comcast dot net.

 

Thanks, and back to Freight Cars!

 

-Jeff Aley

Deputy Moderator, RealSTMFC

 


Re: Photo: Tonopah & Tidewater Boxcar 130 (1940)

Bruce Hendrick
 

Thanks, Bob.

A couple of questions if anyone has any answers.

Might this be be a second-hand boxcar of a standard Class 1? If so, what would be an available HO approximate?

Also, did T&T cars interchange?

Thanks,

Bruce Hendrick
Brea, California


Re: Spring 2022 Keystone Modeler

Bill Keene
 

The link took me to FB … but … there was a button asking if I wanted to leave FB. It got pushed and the web site linked page came up. Not a problem. 

As I want nothing to do with FB I am very pleased that it was that easy. 

Cheers,
— Bill


On Jun 14, 2022, at 12:47 PM, BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...> wrote:

Tell that to Microsoft Outlook. It took me to Facebook. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 14, 2022, at 2:40 PM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


Richard,

Thanks for the message. It appears that the issue is with what you thought you were doing. You incorrectly copied the SOURCE of the URL, not the URL. Because I post the announcement on both Facebook and on multiple mailing lists, this time I happened to compose the facebook announcement first and then copied it to an email to send to all the relevant lists. When you hover over the URL for the Keystone Modeler, you are not seeing the actual URL, you are seeing where that URL was copied from. You should not be doing that. If you have a competent email reader, or are reading your email on the list web page, you can simply click on the URL imbedded in the text. In this case, that would take you directly to the correct web site. If you experience any trouble with that, you should truncate the link to the core URL https://prrths.org which will get you to the homepage, from which you can select “Keystone Modeler” and work your way through the pages to select the issue to download. I didn’t do that because it is difficult for some of the members of the lists I sent this announcement to, to work their way through more than one page to get to something 😉
 
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
 
 
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "fire5506 via groups.io" <fire5506@...>
Reply-To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Monday, June 13, 2022 at 10:56 PM
To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Spring 2022 Keystone Modeler
 

CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.


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