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Re: Lettering removal proto 2000 hoppers

Jim Betz
 

Hi,

  I have not tried removing the lettering from a P2K hopper - having said that ...

  My go to method for removing factory lettering (which is an ink, not paint or decal) is
isopropyl and rubbing with the side of a round toothpick.  It has never failed to remove
the lettering and rarely affects the base color underneath.  I usually flood the area
with water or isopropyl to get all of the residue bits off.  And I let the first applications
of isopropyl sit on the model "until they start to evaporate" before using the toothpick.
  Rarely takes more than 2 or 3 tries - always works "eventually".   I don't consider
this task to be "quick" but it is easy enough and always works.
                                                                                                       - Jim in the PNW


Re: InterMountain C&O 1937 boxcar with Deco Ends

radiodial868
 

One would never know that was at one time an Intermountain RTR car.
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: New member checking in

Ted Larson
 

In my experience/observation 
There is a geographic bias to freight car distribution   
Out east more out east cars
Out west more out west cars 
Vs a uniform distribution if the national fleet.  
ie many more PRR cars out east vs out west. 



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Ted Larson
Trainweb.org/MHRR   ---   GN in 1965   ---   NASG.org 


Re: InterMountain C&O 1937 boxcar with Deco Ends

Charlie Duckworth
 

John.  I got my information off this O gauge site on C&O 5400 being the only example with black doors but your image certainly raises the question is the site correct?  https://www.richyodermodels.com/rym_fc_co_boxcar5400.htm
If it’s wrong I wonder were he got his information?  Since the car was built in 1937 and my layout is in the early 1950’s it’s only 15-17 years old so I wanted to keep the original lettering.  

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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: InterMountain C&O 1937 boxcar with Deco Ends

John E. Henning
 

Charlie,
Looking at your post I had a "Huh" moment. I have been looking at photos of these cars for really decades.  As a member and former Board of Director for the Chesapeake & Ohio Histerical Society, my mind processed the photos as having black doors for decades. But going back and looking at some of my photos, they had the door color matching the sides. Did Intermountain not do all their homework?  Did C&OHS not supply them enough photos?

Re-looking through my photos, also found some had the ends as the same as the side color also.  But appears not all either as some had black.

Ok, but lets add some controversy, see attached photo of C&O Deco Car #5492.  Is that a black door with black rubbed off or a BCR door with soot?

But, just a great job on your car.  Can I send you my 5 cars to 'fix'????  Just kidding....    But, really can I?????

-- John Henning


Re: Lettering removal proto 2000 hoppers

Joseph
 

Try Super Clean Tough Task Cleaner( Home Despot ) carries it.  Soak a piece of paper towel and place over the lettering you want removed. If you search “Soo The Milwaukee Road” on youtube, William Sampson shows how he uses it in one of his videos
Joe Binish

On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 10:45 PM Kenneth Montero <va661midlo@...> wrote:
I also would like to know.

Ken Montero
On 06/24/2022 11:32 PM Doug Forbes <dforbes@...> wrote:


I have several black GM&O war emergency hoppers from Proto 2000.  I would like to remove the lettering and replace it with Illinois Terminal decals.  I have tried soaking the lettering with solvaset and separately with 91% isopropyl alcohol with no affect on the lettering what soever.  What do I try next?  Any suggestions would be appreciated. 


Re: Vallejo equivalent for PFE orange?

gtws00
 

Kevin, I have mostly Vallejo and picked up about a dozen colors of AK for variety and to try. I find that they spray much the same. I used Vallejo Thinner and Flow Improver in the AK paints with no problems. Spray at my usual 18 to 20 psi with a .3 or .5 nozzle.
George Toman


Re: Comet Car Kits

Philip Dove
 

I inherited a few unbuilt and built Comet car kits when my Dad died in 2014. He had a few T&P double door box cars, two Milwaukee flats, and a pair of Green Bay and Western reefer. The first car l ever built was one of his GBW reefer l got it into running order painted the roof and wooden blocks that represented hatches and ran it. It ran very well on the plastic trucks provided. I was too impatient to install all the grab irons brakes and ladders so ran it minus these details. With care and assuming the dimensions and livery were OK it would be possible to make a fine model. Card is a very underrated modelling material. Computer art and printing permit the manufacture of fleets of cars with more elaborate liveries without the hassle of painting and decalling each one. I know l've done it on British models in 7mm 0 gage. 



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From: Bruce Hendrick <brucehendrick@...>
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022, 22:10
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Comet Car Kits
If I remember correctly, years ago I read an article about a modeler who glued similar old  cardboard sides onto plastic box cars after sanding off rivets and such. Doors, grabs, and ladders were then added on. The graphics on these sides look remarkably good.

Bruce Hendrick
Brea, California






Re: Vallejo equivalent for PFE orange?

O Fenton Wells
 

Nicely done george, color does look excellent
Fenton

On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 7:48 AM gtws00 via groups.io <gtws00=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I recently completed a pair of WP/PFE R30-9 rebuilds and used AK interactive Light Rust #11105. This is an acrylic much like Vallejo. I found this to be a very close match to a painted Red Caboose R-30 series reefer. 
George Toman
 



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: Vallejo equivalent for PFE orange?

Kevin Macomber
 

Have you tried both Vallejo and AK? Is there any difference?

Kevin

On 2022-06-25 06:48, gtws00 via groups.io wrote:
I recently completed a pair of WP/PFE R30-9 rebuilds and used AK
interactive Light Rust #11105. This is an acrylic much like Vallejo. I
found this to be a very close match to a painted Red Caboose R-30
series reefer.
George Toman
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Kevin Macomber
NGMC
(717) 474-8399
www.narrowgaugemodeling.com


Re: Vallejo equivalent for PFE orange?

gtws00
 

I recently completed a pair of WP/PFE R30-9 rebuilds and used AK interactive Light Rust #11105. This is an acrylic much like Vallejo. I found this to be a very close match to a painted Red Caboose R-30 series reefer. 
George Toman
 


Re: InterMountain C&O 1937 boxcar with Deco Ends

Charlie Duckworth
 

John
Thanks, I have a bottle of diluted Dullcote that’s had a few drops of Black and Tan (my computer thinks I’m discussing a beer mix and keeps adding capitals).  That’s the only ‘fading’ I’ve done.  The Viking roof hasn’t been attacked as yet other than the above Dullcote coverage but today I’m off the Dick Blicks art store to pick up some additional Pan Pastels to try and replicate this look. 


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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: InterMountain C&O 1937 boxcar with Deco Ends

O Fenton Wells
 

Well done Charlie, great paint match.  And nice looking car
Fenton

On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 9:12 PM Charlie Duckworth via groups.io <Worth51=duck.com@groups.io> wrote:

I’ve had this RTR car for a while and just corrected its most serious flaw. Only 5400 had the black doors;  the remaining cars in the series doors matched the sides.  I mixed up some TruColor CB&Q BCR with VIA yellow to match the sides and resprayed the doors. The Route card and placard boards were replaced with a set from Tangent.  The side hand holds were replaced with Kade’s and wire replace the grabs on the running board above the ladders. Pencils and Pan Pastel was used on the rivet seams.  Yarmouth stirrups replaced the plastic ones  



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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: InterMountain C&O 1937 boxcar with Deco Ends

golden1014
 

Awesome!  Truly—this is beautiful.  How’d you fade the sides?  What kind of treatment did you give to the roof?

John Golden


Re: InterMountain C&O 1937 boxcar with Deco Ends

Paul Doggett
 

Charlie 

Yet another fine car.

Paul Doggett 


On 25 Jun 2022, at 02:12, Charlie Duckworth via groups.io <Worth51@...> wrote:



I’ve had this RTR car for a while and just corrected its most serious flaw. Only 5400 had the black doors;  the remaining cars in the series doors matched the sides.  I mixed up some TruColor CB&Q BCR with VIA yellow to match the sides and resprayed the doors. The Route card and placard boards were replaced with a set from Tangent.  The side hand holds were replaced with Kade’s and wire replace the grabs on the running board above the ladders. Pencils and Pan Pastel was used on the rivet seams.  Yarmouth stirrups replaced the plastic ones  

541CDE64-E948-4480-B2AE-77E05304BDA4.jpeg

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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Lettering removal proto 2000 hoppers

Kenneth Montero
 

I also would like to know.

Ken Montero

On 06/24/2022 11:32 PM Doug Forbes <dforbes@...> wrote:


I have several black GM&O war emergency hoppers from Proto 2000.  I would like to remove the lettering and replace it with Illinois Terminal decals.  I have tried soaking the lettering with solvaset and separately with 91% isopropyl alcohol with no affect on the lettering what soever.  What do I try next?  Any suggestions would be appreciated. 


Lettering removal proto 2000 hoppers

Doug Forbes
 

I have several black GM&O war emergency hoppers from Proto 2000.  I would like to remove the lettering and replace it with Illinois Terminal decals.  I have tried soaking the lettering with solvaset and separately with 91% isopropyl alcohol with no affect on the lettering what soever.  What do I try next?  Any suggestions would be appreciated. 


Re: Klasing Power Hand Brake with Vertical Shaft

Scott
 

I need one too for a tall Mather car.

Scott McDonald 


MDT 19293 in October 1940 in Caribou Maine

Robert kirkham
 

Another really nice b&w Library of Congress image of John Vachon: https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2017792367/resource/

Nice subtle weathering with pealing paint here and there . . .

Rob 


InterMountain C&O 1937 boxcar with Deco Ends

Charlie Duckworth
 

I’ve had this RTR car for a while and just corrected its most serious flaw. Only 5400 had the black doors;  the remaining cars in the series doors matched the sides.  I mixed up some TruColor CB&Q BCR with VIA yellow to match the sides and resprayed the doors. The Route card and placard boards were replaced with a set from Tangent.  The side hand holds were replaced with Kade’s and wire replace the grabs on the running board above the ladders. Pencils and Pan Pastel was used on the rivet seams.  Yarmouth stirrups replaced the plastic ones  



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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.

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