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Built-Up Resin Kits

WILLIAM PARDIE
 




The references to the sale of built up boxcars bought to mind a topic that I had almost forgotten.A reference was made to the work of quality modelers selling at a premium.
Bill Welch has ben a major player on the Prototype Community for over fifteen yearts.  What has become of his collection on his passing?  I hzave spoken to several members 
who were involved in the Memoial Tribute to Bill and they have no idea.  I had heard that some of his airplane models (Yes, he was into that as well) were sold at a prototype 
meet. There has, however, been no mention to my knowledge as to what has happened to his marvelous freight cars.

Does anyone have any information?

Bill Pardie 
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Re: Photo: New England Alcohol Company Tank Car NEACX 32

nyc3001 .
 

Maybe it would be possible to model this car by mating a F&C underframe to a P2K 8K Type 21 tank.

-Phil


Re: Photo: New England Alcohol Company Tank Car NEACX 32

Tim O'Connor
 


Cool photo ! The frame has a 1912 stencil but the tank appears to have a 1928 stencil.

I never knew a private reporting mark could be 5 letters. :-\

On 7/1/2022 1:16 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote:

Photo: New England Alcohol Company Tank Car NEACX 32

Photo from the Missouri Historical Society:

https://mohistory.org/collections/item/P0403-S03043-01-8n?fullscreen=1

Car built in 1912. Photo supposedly taken in the 1930s.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Hides Re: [URL Verdict: Neutral][Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Hide Cars - perhaps not the last wood, however....

Jim Betz
 

Hi,
  My brother spent a lot of years in trucking - first as a driver and then as a dispatcher.
Smallish company with all flat bed trailers.  Once, while he was still driving he had a
container of hides as a priority haul from Portland to Vancouver, B.C. (had been delayed
a couple of weeks in the summer).  He got to the U.S.-Canada Border and the border
guy said "I have to check the load".  My brother had some idea of what would happen
so he got up and unsealed it and hopped down and said - go ahead and check.  The
border inspector hopped up and popped the doors open (center opening) and a 
bluish green "fog" came pouring out of the truck and flowed all over the parking area
where they did inspections.  He was able to avoid actually getting in the fog (border
guy did not) and they told him they couldn't inspect until the fog was gone ... and so
he had to park it way off to the side (as directed) and it sat for several hours before
they risked even going back to it long enough to peek inside.
  If you ever want to smuggle something across a border - putting it inside/under a
hide load would be a good method.  *G*
                                                                                       - Jim in the PNW


Re: Virginian BX10 boxcar

Paul Doggett
 

Chuck 

There were two sets of doors in the kit one set plated one set unplanted the photo supplied with the kit shows shows the car with a plated door. I hope this is of use to you.

Paul Doggett.

image0.jpeg


On 1 Jul 2022, at 18:10, Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:



Paul,

 

Can you comment on the doors, interesting look.

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


Re: Virginian BX10 boxcar

Paul Doggett
 

Charlie 

Thank you it was you that inspired me.

Paul Doggett 


On 1 Jul 2022, at 18:08, Charlie Duckworth via groups.io <Worth51@...> wrote:

Paul
Nicely done; those NSC decals make s huge difference to the F&C ones.  
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Photo: New England Alcohol Company Tank Car NEACX 32

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: New England Alcohol Company Tank Car NEACX 32

Photo from the Missouri Historical Society:

https://mohistory.org/collections/item/P0403-S03043-01-8n?fullscreen=1

Car built in 1912. Photo supposedly taken in the 1930s.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Northern Pacific Tankage Boxcar

Hudson Leighton
 

Link not working.

-Hudson


Re: Virginian BX10 boxcar

Chuck Cover
 

Paul,

 

Can you comment on the doors, interesting look.

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


Re: Virginian BX10 boxcar

Charlie Duckworth
 

Paul
Nicely done; those NSC decals make s huge difference to the F&C ones.  
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Virginian BX10 boxcar

Paul Doggett
 

Fenton 

Thank you .

Paul Doggett 


On 1 Jul 2022, at 17:58, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


Nicely done Paul. Looking good
Fenton 

On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 12:03 PM Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Guys

I have just finished a Funaro and Camerlengo Virginian BX10 boxcar I used National scale car (old Speedwitch) decals, it’s an interesting car with its plate steel ends. The paint is a mix of Badger dark and light Tuscan, weathering was done with Railmatch weathering paints mixed with Railmatch matt varnish. Another interesting point is it’s internal height which is only 8’0” which can be seen when next to more modern cars.

Paul Doggett.      England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿







--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Virginian BX10 boxcar

O Fenton Wells
 

Nicely done Paul. Looking good
Fenton 

On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 12:03 PM Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Guys

I have just finished a Funaro and Camerlengo Virginian BX10 boxcar I used National scale car (old Speedwitch) decals, it’s an interesting car with its plate steel ends. The paint is a mix of Badger dark and light Tuscan, weathering was done with Railmatch weathering paints mixed with Railmatch matt varnish. Another interesting point is it’s internal height which is only 8’0” which can be seen when next to more modern cars.

Paul Doggett.      England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿







--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: [ResinFreightCarBuilders] F&C Virginian boxcar

 

Very nice, Paul!


Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni


On 7/1/22, 11:12 AM, "Paul Doggett via groups.io" <ResinFreightCarBuilders@groups.io on behalf of paul.doggett2472@...> wrote:

Hi Guys

I have just finished a Funaro and Camerlengo Virginian BX10 boxcar. I used National Scale Car ( old Speedwitch) decals the paint was a mix of Badger light and dark Tuscan. Weathering was done using a mix of rail match weathering colours mixed with Railmatch matt varnish. It’s and interesting car I that it’s got plate steel ends and an internal height of only 8’0”.

Paul Doggett. England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿.


Virginian BX10 boxcar

Paul Doggett
 

Hi Guys

I have just finished a Funaro and Camerlengo Virginian BX10 boxcar I used National scale car (old Speedwitch) decals, it’s an interesting car with its plate steel ends. The paint is a mix of Badger dark and light Tuscan, weathering was done with Railmatch weathering paints mixed with Railmatch matt varnish. Another interesting point is it’s internal height which is only 8’0” which can be seen when next to more modern cars.

Paul Doggett. England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿


Re: Hide Cars - perhaps not the last wood, however....

Bob Chaparro
 

On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 06:01 AM, Philip Dove wrote:
I, am guessing tankage might have made sausage casings if it included intestines,
Not at all. It's a dried product.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Hide Cars - perhaps not the last wood, however....

Bob Chaparro
 

Tankage is a dry product of animal rendering, not the same as offal.
Often shipped in 100 pound sacks.

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: [URL Verdict: Neutral][Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Hide Cars - perhaps not the last wood, however....

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

The worst incident Al told me was of the newby who was told to figure out the problem on an offal gon set out on a siding for creating a brake line leak.  The crew dropped him off and left.  He spent all day under that gon trying to figure out where the leak was, with body liquids dripping on him constantly.  Only after many hours did he find that the trainline had separated inside a joint.

 

His co-workers wouldn’t let him in the yard office, he had to walk home.  His wife wouldn’t let him in the house.  They burned his clothes, but the stink remained.  He slept outdoors for a week, taking several showers a day with strong lye soap.  They cut his hair.  Poor guy.

 

Yard offices mis-routed the cars deliberately, so as to get them out of the yard.  They showed up in places they had no business being.  Oooops.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of BRIAN PAUL EHNI
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 10:58 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [URL Verdict: Neutral][Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Hide Cars - perhaps not the last wood, however....

 

I’d hate to be near when slack action made that slosh out!

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Gatwood, Elden J SAD" <elden.j.gatwood@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Friday, July 1, 2022 at 9:26 AM
To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [URL Verdict: Neutral][Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Hide Cars - perhaps not the last wood, however....

 

 

 

Fritz;

Here is my model of an offal gon, done at the direction of Al Buchan, who witnessed these cars in action. 

Apparently, they used gons on their last legs, coated on the inside with asphaltum,  but they leaked anyways.

He said they originated at slaughterhouses and meatpacking plants that generated a lot of guts and body liquids, and smelled so bad they were consistently mis-routed so yard crews didn’t lose their lunch.

This particular car represents one in a famous “sloshing by hard coupling” incident in which a brakeman was inundated.

Al said the car was “spot on”.

Hope this helps,

Elden Gatwood 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fritz Milhaupt via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 4:37 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Hide Cars - perhaps not the last wood, however....

 

I've been trying to find a good photo of a gon load of tankage so I can make an outbound load from a meat packing plant.

My most recent effort involved a block of balsa with a layer of white caulk that was sprinkled with bits of red and brown Fimo then topped with semi-clear caulk. I glued some black pepper on top for flies.

It was entirely based on my best guess, since I haven't found a photo to work from.

- Fritz Milhaupt


Re: [URL Verdict: Neutral][Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Hide Cars - perhaps not the last wood, however....

 

I’d hate to be near when slack action made that slosh out!

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Gatwood, Elden J SAD" <elden.j.gatwood@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Friday, July 1, 2022 at 9:26 AM
To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [URL Verdict: Neutral][Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Hide Cars - perhaps not the last wood, however....

 

 

 

Fritz;

Here is my model of an offal gon, done at the direction of Al Buchan, who witnessed these cars in action. 

Apparently, they used gons on their last legs, coated on the inside with asphaltum,  but they leaked anyways.

He said they originated at slaughterhouses and meatpacking plants that generated a lot of guts and body liquids, and smelled so bad they were consistently mis-routed so yard crews didn’t lose their lunch.

This particular car represents one in a famous “sloshing by hard coupling” incident in which a brakeman was inundated.

Al said the car was “spot on”.

Hope this helps,

Elden Gatwood 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fritz Milhaupt via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 4:37 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Hide Cars - perhaps not the last wood, however....

 

I've been trying to find a good photo of a gon load of tankage so I can make an outbound load from a meat packing plant.

My most recent effort involved a block of balsa with a layer of white caulk that was sprinkled with bits of red and brown Fimo then topped with semi-clear caulk. I glued some black pepper on top for flies.

It was entirely based on my best guess, since I haven't found a photo to work from.

- Fritz Milhaupt


Re: [URL Verdict: Neutral][Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Hide Cars - perhaps not the last wood, however....

William Hirt
 

A retired railroad friend has talked about them moving offal gondolas from Iowa packing plants. The smell in the summer was incredible he said with hordes of insects swarming the cars. The cars they hauled were being taken to the Tara, Iowa, area to be buried. He said one day a brakeman had the misfortune of falling into one of the offal gondolas. He had to ride outside for the remainder of the run and dispose of his clothes once they reached the end of the run.

BIll Hirt

On 7/1/2022 9:19 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:

 

 

Fritz;

Here is my model of an offal gon, done at the direction of Al Buchan, who witnessed these cars in action. 

Apparently, they used gons on their last legs, coated on the inside with asphaltum,  but they leaked anyways.

He said they originated at slaughterhouses and meatpacking plants that generated a lot of guts and body liquids, and smelled so bad they were consistently mis-routed so yard crews didn’t lose their lunch.

This particular car represents one in a famous “sloshing by hard coupling” incident in which a brakeman was inundated.

Al said the car was “spot on”.

Hope this helps,

Elden Gatwood 


Re: [URL Verdict: Neutral][Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Hide Cars - perhaps not the last wood, however....

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

 

 

Fritz;

Here is my model of an offal gon, done at the direction of Al Buchan, who witnessed these cars in action. 

Apparently, they used gons on their last legs, coated on the inside with asphaltum,  but they leaked anyways.

He said they originated at slaughterhouses and meatpacking plants that generated a lot of guts and body liquids, and smelled so bad they were consistently mis-routed so yard crews didn’t lose their lunch.

This particular car represents one in a famous “sloshing by hard coupling” incident in which a brakeman was inundated.

Al said the car was “spot on”.

Hope this helps,

Elden Gatwood 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fritz Milhaupt via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 4:37 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Hide Cars - perhaps not the last wood, however....

 

I've been trying to find a good photo of a gon load of tankage so I can make an outbound load from a meat packing plant.

My most recent effort involved a block of balsa with a layer of white caulk that was sprinkled with bits of red and brown Fimo then topped with semi-clear caulk. I glued some black pepper on top for flies.

It was entirely based on my best guess, since I haven't found a photo to work from.

- Fritz Milhaupt

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